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    Yea I just noticed that too on nbadraft.net. Nice discovery Mr.Body .

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    Pruitt also has enough size, length, and scoring ability to play the 2 in a small-guard set as well...which has become evermore popular. So I think Pruitt has enough to stick it out in SA.

    Too add on my 2 cents: Pruitt would also have solid enough ball handling skills as a two guard option where he wouldn't be just another "spot up shooter" he could be able to create his own offense, drive to the basket, and push the ball on a fastbreak. And he's a good shooter anyway, which is the most easily translatable skill from college to the pros. He definitely isn't perfect like I may be making him out to be but he's the type of pg that the Spurs would have trouble finding anywhere else but this draft. So what if he is only with the Spurs for 4 years then out, by then the Spurs run would be pretty much over.
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    As your Spurs representative for the DX mock draft (via forums), I've selected:

    #28 Gabe Pruitt
    #33 Jared Dudley

    At least given the motley crew also drafting, these players were still available.
    There's been so much buzz about Dudley I doubt he'll be around on even the 28th pick.

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    There's been so much buzz about Dudley I doubt he'll be around on even the 28th pick.
    RealGM's mock has him going at 46. There is absolutely no way. This guy is 1st round material through and through.

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    Pruitt IMO is more likely to be there at #28. I think Fernandez might go by the late teens and Belinelli in the early 20s at the latest, while Pruitt could slip into the 2nd round if Phoenix doesn't nab him at #29.

    If all three are available, I'd go:

    Fernandez, Belinelli, Pruitt... in that order of preference.
    On Fernandez and Belinelli....I haven't seen any reports of them working out for teams or being heavily scouted. Are they still playing for their Euroleague teams?

    I still think that one of them slips into the late first round because of buyout concerns, etc. And if there's one thing the Spurs FO likes, it's foreigners. Here's my preference for the picks...but again I would be happy with so many others.

    #28 Fernandez/Pruitt

    #33 Dudley/Fazekas

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    Dudley is getting a lot of good press, but that's against guys around his same talent level. When push comes to shove, most GMs are still going to go for the big hits/homeruns. I could see Dominic McGuire getting taken before him, for example; plus, a lot of teams are still following the Phoenix model and will go more for athletes.

    When you look at the late first round... the question is which teams are likely to take Dudley there? Detroit could, but he's not a big need - if they take Stuckey at 15 they'll probably go for size. Houston has Battier and other needs to take care of. Etc. I can see Utah taking a real shine to him, but feel because of Kirilenko and the fact they're starting Fisher as a SG they'd rather take someone like Arron Afflalo there.

    Then you have Morris Almond floating around, who will look more attractive than Jared Dudley. Phoenix themselves own two 20s picks - although I think one will be sold.

    I see the scenario of Dudley slipping very easily into the second round. You have too many similar levels of talent around there - Aaron Gray, Afflalo, Fazekas, Almond, Dowdell - with varying skills, that it's not obvious Dudley shoots up the board.

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    On Fernandez and Belinelli....I haven't seen any reports of them working out for teams or being heavily scouted. Are they still playing for their Euroleague teams?
    Belinelli left the Treviso camp (Europe) early to work out for American teams. I have no idea the whereabouts of Fernandez - perhaps he's still playing?

    I wonder if the Spurs like Fazekas or think he works in their system. I could see Houston really going for him.

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    There's been so much buzz about Dudley I doubt he'll be around on even the 28th pick.
    We'll see. The upside on Dudley may not be as big as it with some other players. I think he would be a perfect rotation player for the Spurs. Put him at the '4' next to Duncan in small ball and that's an effective front line.

    But a lot of teams still want to use their first round pick on a guy who has the raw ability that - if harnessed - can translate to all-star games. Dudley is more polished than the majority of the draft, but in terms of pure athletic ability/size/strength/quickness, I think he's still got a pretty good chance to fall to the end of the round.

    Now, whether Buford/Pop even view him that highly is a whole different story...

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    Fernandez is playing in Spain. He is curently playing game 5 (series format is best of 5) of the semifinal.
    I'm watching game 5 of the other semifinal between Tau and Barcelona. The game is tied 40-40 and it's the start of the second half. A quite good game, very physical.

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    RealGM's mock has him going at 46. There is absolutely no way. This guy is 1st round material through and through.
    I noticed they have Dominic McGuire down at 56 now. I thought he was pretty secure at the top of the second round and hoped we could take him at 33.

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    Where is realgm's house mock you guys are finding? McGuire at 56 is crazy; he's gone by 40, I'd say.

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    http://www.realgm.com/src_feature/91...measurements)/

    I think they meant 54th overall for McGuire.

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    I'm watching game 5 of the other semifinal between Tau and Barcelona. The game is tied 40-40 and it's the start of the second half. A quite good game, very physical.
    Barcelona is up by 20 with 3 min left (84-64).
    Tau is eliminated of the spanich league.
    Scola has been really bad for the last and most important game of his season.

    Edit : So Tau lost 95-79. Scola fouled out on a flagrant foul with one minute left and was really pissed. I don't know what will happen with him next year but it was a kinda sad ending of his season and maybe of his career in europe.
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    Belinelli left the Treviso camp (Europe) early to work out for American teams. I have no idea the whereabouts of Fernandez - perhaps he's still playing?

    I wonder if the Spurs like Fazekas or think he works in their system. I could see Houston really going for him.
    Understanding that Steve Novak is a much less complete player, I see the similarity with outside shooting and size...so why duplicate talent? I think that Houston could go elsewhere with their first rounder. They could go with a PG, a shooter, a low-post big with rebounding/defense. I'm not completely "poo-pooing" the idea, just think that he still might be around in the early second for the Spurs' taking.

    On whether he's a "Spurs" guy is hard to say. He seems to have a good inside-out game and show some level of toughness (though it has been questioned in the tourney). We'll see, but he could be a good addition to this team with his offensive versatility.

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    The realgm mock is pretty lousy. I won't count the ways, even if it's not totally horrific, but even saying in their pick comments that Taurean Green wouldn't be "much of a drop off at all" from Tony Parker is a goddamn moron. Green would be lucky to ever be as good as Parker is right now.

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    I honestly don't like that realgm mock draft, Spurs drafting those guys would be a very bad dream. And yes Mr. Body, the entire mock itself is crap.

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    Understanding that Steve Novak is a much less complete player, I see the similarity with outside shooting and size...so why duplicate talent? I think that Houston could go elsewhere with their first rounder. They could go with a PG, a shooter, a low-post big with rebounding/defense. I'm not completely "poo-pooing" the idea, just think that he still might be around in the early second for the Spurs' taking.

    On whether he's a "Spurs" guy is hard to say. He seems to have a good inside-out game and show some level of toughness (though it has been questioned in the tourney). We'll see, but he could be a good addition to this team with his offensive versatility.
    Don't know him too well, but Novak is almost strictly an outside shooter, while Fazekas (in the NCAAs at least) was a terrific rebounder and shot blocker on top of being a great shooter.

    I just checked out his NCAA stats... didn't realize Novak was so tall; he certainly doesn't play his height. In that way he's closer to a Matt Bullard. Fazekas could be a different player. I've liked Morris Almond a lot for Houston, and think rather that's where they'd go, whether or not Bonzi Wells winds up coming back.

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    Just went to NBAdraft.net and they have us taking Caleb Green, a Sr. from Oral Roberts at 58.

    Trust me, at that pick the Spurs will take a Euro for sure. No payments up front and a wave and good luck to ya from the F.O.

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    NBAdraft.net also has a note that team needs will not even be considered in their mock until after the season ends...

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    Fernandez is playing in Spain. He is curently playing game 5 (series format is best of 5) of the semifinal.
    Fernandzez' team lost, Fernandez season is over.
    Ferandez scored 15 points.

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    Fernandzez' team lost, Fernandez season is over.
    Ferandez scored 15 points.
    Fernandez needs to be a Spur!

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    Fernandez needs to be a Spur!
    It's his destiny....

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    Notes on Beabios...

    What jumped out at me was the 6'9 wingspan (REDICULOUS!) and the comparison to Rajon Rondo...a freakish athlete that plays great defense, though he also has no "shot".

    Rodrigue Beaubois, PG, 6-2, 170, France
    Beaubois is a 19-year-old point guard who really has surprised a number of NBA scouts here. I don't think anyone came into the camp expecting much (in fact, few had ever even seen him play) but just about everyone is impressed with his athleticism, quickness, length (he has a huge 6-9 wing span) and hands. Physically, he resembles Rajon Rondo.

    Beaubois was discovered by Warriors guard Mickael Pietrus at one of his camps in Guadeloupe. Each year Pietrus works with hundreds of kids and narrows it down to a handful that he'll help get jobs in France. Beaubois is the first kid to make it this far.

    "He's a very good player," Pietrus, who is attending the camp in Italy, told ESPN.com. "I think he is developing the skills to be a pro. He just has to be patient."

    Beaubois had 10 points on 4-of-7 shooting in 20 minutes of play Saturday. That was enough, apparently, for some teams. Beaubois agent, Bill McCandless, told me on Sunday morning that he got a couple of offers from teams in the second round. The idea is that if Beaubois stops playing, stays in the draft and is available, they'll take him.

    I think that might be overdoing it a little. Beaubois seems like a prospect, but he doesn't have the strength or the experience to play in the NBA anytime soon. He's a "down-the-road" prospect. Still, teams know that he might come at a much higher price next season, so maybe they're willing to take the chance now.

    Beaubois was on the roster of the Eurocamp All-Star game on Sunday but didn't play, raising some eyebrows and su ions that he might have taken someone up on the offer.

    Not bad for 20 minutes of work.
    There's that down-the-road European prospect that no one has ever heard of and that the Spurs will take at #58

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    There's that down-the-road European prospect that no one has ever heard of and that the Spurs will take at #58
    If he stays in the draft: YES. But he supposedly received several second round promises but nothing in the first. He will likely pull out early.

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