Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[palangi]

I don't get you laughing about this other than you just being a chick too the laker fan or you are basketball dumb. I'd think kuzma showed plenty to be a very effective 6th man

[raybies]

Burying your head in the sand is quite pathetic, tbh. Grow some nuts.

I feel bad for you that you think everyone is worth your time.

[Fusternino]

We can still waive Forbes and stretch his contract, right? Look I feel bad for the guy given his story . . . I'd be OK giving him a free $1-2M and then giving him a good recommendation to get onto another team. But our roster space is really cramped right now.

[noles1983]

Has no business other than the fact that he won in a electoral college landslide?

It's great watching win piss off so many re ed leftists that hate America and her values.

ing traitor, funny you talk about American values. This country needs to purge s like you, tbh.

[Killakobe81]

There’s a disconnect with how they see their young players based on their potential and their actual achievements. The kids will do great this year since all defenses are focusing on LeBron while Kuzma and Ingram have less defensive pressure to deal with. Add to that the fact they’re probably climbing to the playoffs from the bottom of the barrel, the fans have a lot to be happy about. I personally think their fan base thought they could get a disgruntled star on the cheap as they always had e.g. Gasol, Howard, and Nash, but they really should have been content with that nice handful of young players they highly value.

I agree even Ingram hasnt done all that much, yet.
Its gambling on the hot stock versus a tried and true longtern annuity ...
Though Lebron adds pressure and shortens our time-line I did not want to part with Ingram.
And as far as Maginka's "spin" (Magic has been unusually quiet overall) what should they say ...my guess is the trade speculation can have a negative affect on the team. So of course they gonna say they did not want to break up their "young core" what else are they supposed to say? Everyone but Ingram and Lebron is untouchable?! My guess part of the reason Randle wanted out (besides his ty agent) was the thought that in a contract year being third fiddle to a potential Lebron/KL would not be ideal going in to another big contract year. But instead of saying all than Pelinka says Randle was great, was our best player last year and though we wanted him back we werent willing to offer more than a one year deal because it would hamper our cap space in 2019.
you dont have to be a genius to cut through the BS and the spin.
IF Spurs really would just accept Kuzma a first and hart ...I think deal would be done. But my guess Spurs wanted more and since Lakers have been marketing Klye the spin is now Kuzma was off the table. Not saying they dont like or even love Kuzma. But I have a hard time buying that Kuzma/Hart and a first ..wouldnt be considered a "win" in a KL deal ...by the Lakers. probably an "L" for Spurs though.

[DPG21920]

I agree with Killa - they aren’t going to throw the young guys under the bus until they have to. But I honestly think that LA learned nothing from PG and is truly making a mistake if they are willing to lose out on Kawhi because they can sign Butler or something next year.

Kawhi is the special kind of player. They are rare.

But the young guys are a huge gamble for LA. Any injury and misstep and they may have a disaster on their hands landing Bron and doing nothing with it.

[Fusternino]

I agree that Magic is making a huge mistake. I legitimately believe Jerry West is doing everything he can to send us a package for Kawhi.

I'm also not convinced Kawhi's group is truly that incompetent that they wouldn't be able to leverage the Toronto media market for massive endorsements. Well, I believe they are truly that incompetent but I also think that once they'd get there they'd be more motivated than they are now.

[JPB]

Kuzma isn’t trash. Neither is Ingram. But people acting like they are already really good are wrong. They could be, they should develop more but as of today they aren’t even above average players.

It will be fascinating to watch LA this season. They are apparently doubling down on their 3 year window with Bron based on their core developing. If Ingram doesn’t make a Kawhi like leap it will be a BIG issue. They need and expect Ingram to be a legit number 2 on a le team and they don’t have 4 years for that to happen. It has to happen NEXT season or else you are now going into year 2 of Lebron a year older and now no true number 2 on the team (and Ingram’s upside sell further damaged).

If he makes the leap? They are in great shape. Will be very interesting.

This is what people saying spurs have no leverage don't integrate in their reasoning and why they're in no rush to make a deal.

They are not a team who just signed a superstar or is is one piece away from a le. Pressure is not on them, RC or Pop's jobs are not at stake and SA fans are not a frustrated brass with big expectations.

It basically boils down to Kawhi's health now. If he can sow is 100%, teams will up their offers.

[SupremeGuy]

I feel bad for you that you think everyone is worth your time.

What the are you trying to say?

[Killakobe81]

I agree with Killa - they aren’t going to throw the young guys under the bus until they have to. But I honestly think that LA learned nothing from PG and is truly making a mistake if they are willing to lose out on Kawhi because they can sign Butler or something next year.

Kawhi is the special kind of player. They are rare.

But the young guys are a huge gamble for LA. Any injury and misstep and they may have a disaster on their hands landing Bron and doing nothing with it.

PG will prove the old adage ... some of the best deals you make are the ones you don't.
I dont like Jimmy Butler. He is not really all that close to a fully healthy Kawhi.
But if the choice is Ingram Kuzma and Butler ...
versus ...
Kawhi
I would take the former as a supporting cast for LeBron.

Remember state built part of their run on having some talent in-house. In a sa;ary capped league tough to build with only FA signess.
Even Heatles had WAde and 2008-2010 Celts had Pierce.
Mavs had Dirk.

Lakers need at least one of the core to hit big.

[monkeypunk]

because hillary isnt a puppet right...
she is her own woman.

Your puppet all but showed Putin's hand up his ass today, if you weren't paying attention.

Hillary would have driven Putin into the ground, which was the entire point of Putin attacking the US to install the orange traitor.

If you don't see that, you're trolling and can go yourself straight back to whatever fascist country you admire.

[DD]

OT, but I think Svi and Wagner could see minutes this year with their shooting abilities. Both of them are too frail at this point body-wise, but some decent minutes on a middling WC playoff team could make them grow faster and expose them to some tough, valuable compe ion at an early age. Could give us an indicator if they are capable of playing at the next level

[raybies]

New Conspiracy Theory:

What if Kawhi knows his career is doomed and the Spurs and him are working together to help the only org he’s ever loved find suitable replacements. So he leaked LA so he can do a human sacrifice to take LA out and do the Spurs the greatest deed of all; get their young players and nuke them financially for several years. God bless Leonard. His group just trying to protect us and help us but us blind sheep don’t know the truth. He fights for us.

[SupremeGuy]

ing traitor, funny you talk about American values. This country needs to purge s like you, tbh.

The traitors are the gots who run around in pussy costumes, don't know which gender they belong to, hate American exceptionalism, and are trying to steal a presidency from the people. It's going to be fun swimming in all of your tears when President Trump swears in Brett Kavanaugh.

[baseline bum]

Hart and Kuzma are not expendable.
Kuzma has been the face of the franchise in off season promotions and deemed untouchable by some sources close to the team. Hart less valuable but has shown encouraging improvement in SL.
Again I understand opinions/evaluations on our young core is unrealistic on LG but undervalued here.
I think Kuzma can be an elite 6th man or solid 5 starter. I think Hart can be a good combo guard as part of a bench rotation on a contender. And Ingram can be a high level #2.
THE worry is Lonzo. Even if he improves his shooting which I expect, he has been injured to often for a young guy...

Kuzma untouchable.

Could you imagine Spurs fan calling Kyle Anderson untouchable?

[ducks]

because hillary isnt a puppet right...
she is her own woman.

she puppet

[baseline bum]

The traitors are the gots who run around in pussy costumes, don't know which gender they belong to, hate American exceptionalism, and are trying to steal a presidency from the people. It's going to be fun swimming in all of your tears when President Trump swears in Brett Kavanaugh.

The people

The people voted for Clinton by almost 3 million votes

Trump being the peoples' president

[SupremeGuy]

Your puppet all but showed Putin's hand up his ass today, if you weren't paying attention.

Hillary would have driven Putin into the ground, which was the entire point of Putin attacking the US to install the orange traitor.

If you don't see that, you're trolling and can go yourself straight back to whatever fascist country you admire.

And by driving him into the ground, you mean selling him more of our uranium, right? you, commie.

[noles1983]

The traitors are the gots who run around in pussy costumes, don't know which gender they belong to, hate American exceptionalism, and are trying to steal a presidency from the people. It's going to be fun swimming in all of your tears when President Trump swears in Brett Kavanaugh.

ing nazi

[cd98]

Your puppet all but showed Putin's hand up his ass today, if you weren't paying attention.

Hillary would have driven Putin into the ground, which was the entire point of Putin attacking the US to install the orange traitor.

If you don't see that, you're trolling and can go yourself straight back to whatever fascist country you admire.

Don't hijack this thread with useless political commentary. Both parties have been laughably bad on Russia. From Obama laughing off Mitt Romney's claim that Russia was our No. 1 Geopolitical foe to Hillary and her stupid reset and then Trump openly ignoring the obvious tampering that Russia did in this last election. It's pretty sad on all fronts.

[ducks]

And by driving him into the ground, you mean selling him more of our uranium, right? you, commie.

she would have given him 150 billion in cash like ...

[Fusternino]

Assuming we keep Kawhi and Manu stays-then how do we fill out the rest of our roster? Waiving BP3 brings us down to 8 guards and 13 players. Our front court is depleted. I'm not seeing any viable UFAs other than Greg Monroe. We would need to fill the other position using in-house resources. Milutinov? Metu? Okafor? Monroe?

What about giving someone from Austin the minimum? Is LJC totally done at this point?

[SupremeGuy]

The people

The people voted for Clinton by almost 3 million votes

Trump being the peoples' president

Cry more.

[ducks]

The people

The people voted for Clinton by almost 3 million votes

Trump being the peoples' president

3 million votes in cal that they do not even need to show id to vote


but must show id to get refund at walmart

[ducks]

Kuzma untouchable.

Could you imagine Spurs fan calling Kyle Anderson untouchable?