Palin's Favorability Ratings Begin to Falter

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Anyone who tries to tell me busting a nut with a hot chick is overrated immediately loses all credibility.

thats what everyone told buddha, and i could go on and on about it...but since this is a political forum, ill stand down while i still can

[hitmanyr2k]

I'm starting to believe they should just keep Palin off the mic altogether. They need to coach her better than this....

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-exists-in-dc/

Palin's transparency proposal already exists in D.C.
Posted: 02:10 PM ET

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (CNN) – Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she “put the government checkbook online” in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.

“We’re going to do a few new things also,” she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. “For instance, as Alaska’s governor, I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back. We’re going to bring that back to D.C.”

There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.

In 2006 and 2007, Obama teamed up with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to pass the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, also known as “Google for Government.” The act created a free, searchable web site – USASpending.gov — that discloses to the public all federal grants, contracts, loans and insurance payments.


In June of this year, Obama and Coburn introduced new Senate legislation to expand the information available online to include details on earmarks, compe ive bidding, criminal activities, audit disputes and other government information.

Palin might also have noted that her running mate, John McCain, was an original co-sponsor of the 2006 transparency bill that became law.

Obama reaching across party lines to pass legislation? Say it ain't so
You would think the McCain staff would know better and omit this from the Palin script. They're making her look as dumb as a rock lately.

[ElNono]

Some of what you mention here has nothing to do with religion - it's just plain immoral!

Says who? Your God?
You keep on fearing to lose that imaginary piece of heaven, I'll keep on enjoying life as it's meant to be enjoyed...

And the statement about divorce shows your ignorance because people who are christians get divorces - maybe it just takes more to get them to that point. And none of the churches I've been a member of condemned people who were divorced.

Really? I was raised a Roman Catholic, by far the most popular religion on this planet, and they'll definitely will not re-marry a divorced man or woman.
So tell me, where is it that I'm being ignorant exactly?
And don't even get me started with IVF or reproductive sciences...

[101A]

Says who? Your God?

Really? I was raised a Roman Catholic, by far the most popular religion on this planet, and they'll definitely will not re-marry a divorced man or woman.

Yeah, but they hand out annulments like Halloween candy; tomato, tamata

[LakeShow]

Posted Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:37 PM
Palin's Favorability Rating? Still Slipping...

Andrew Romano
Going down?

On Tuesday, I reported that Sarah Palin's favorability ratings, which peaked shortly after the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, were starting to slip. Between Sept. 13 and Sept. 17, the Alaska governor's unfavorables had climbed in the Diageo/Hotline poll from 30 percent to 37 percent; her favorables, meanwhile, had fallen from 52 percent to 47 percent. All in all, she'd gone from the most to least popular White House hopeful over the course of five short days.

The reason? "I suspect that we're starting to see Palin's considerable novelty wear off," I wrote. "Between now and Nov. 4, voters will stop seeing Palin as a fascinating story and starting taking her measure as an actual candidate for office. Some will approve; some won't... But it's hard to argue that the journey from intriguing new superstar to earthbound politician--a necessary part of the process--doesn't involve a loss of al ude. Just ask Barack Obama."

Still, I was careful to add that "we should hold off on drawing any hard and fast conclusions until more polling comes out." Well, now it has--and the stats confirm my initial hunch. According to the Research 2000 daily tracking poll--which is conducted for the liberal blog DailyKos by a nonpartisan firm that ranks as one of the most accurate in the field--Palin's favorability rating has been steadily declining since Sept. 11, when it topped out at 52 percent favorable / 35 percent unfavorable (+17). On Monday, Palin's positives and negatives flatlined; by this morning, more respondents disapproved (46 percent) than approved (42 percent) of the Republican vice-presidential nominee. Lest you discount a poll commissioned by a Democratic organization--and something tells me that many of you will--the latest survey from CBS News and the New York Times shows a similar decline. On Sept. 8, Palin boasted a 44-22 favorable-unfavorable rating. Today, her split is 40-30. That's the exact same net swing of -12 points found in the Diageo/Hotline poll.

Whether Palin's slippage affects McCain's bid remains to be seen. But to deny that she's slipping is no longer a reality-based proposition.

[Shastafarian]

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Really? I was raised a Roman Catholic, by far the most popular religion on this planet, and they'll definitely will not re-marry a divorced man or woman.
So tell me, where is it that I'm being ignorant exactly?
And don't even get me started with IVF or reproductive sciences...

not true. islam is now the most popular religion in the world (by population) and my father and step-mother are both roman catholic, and they were married into the catholic church.

[101A]

Really? I was raised a Roman Catholic, by far the most popular religion on this planet, and they'll definitely will not re-marry a divorced man or woman.
So tell me, where is it that I'm being ignorant exactly?

My paternal grandparents were married in a RC Church. They had two children. After 20 years they decided the marriage wasn't working out, so they got an anulment - essentially the Catholic church decreed that the "marriage" never existed. They EACH remarried different people in the Catholic Church; effectively making my father and aunt bas children.

What the Catholic Church does is worse than granting divorces - and Paul (whose lead they are hopelessly trying to follow with this) would not be pleased.

[ElNono]

My paternal grandparents were married in a RC Church. They had two children. After 20 years they decided the marriage wasn't working out, so they got an anulment - essentially the Catholic church decreed that the "marriage" never existed. They EACH remarried different people in the Catholic Church; effectively making my father and aunt bas children.

What the Catholic Church does is worse than granting divorces - and Paul (whose lead they are hopelessly trying to follow with this) would not be pleased.

Annulment is an option, but the Church rarely grants them. Your grandparents certainly were lucky. I don't have any more recent numbers, but in 2002, out of 1280 cases the church studied, only 62 got annulled. That's a whooping 5.2%. (Info from a 2004 article in Spanish, link here)

So, for the other 94.8% of unhappy Christian couples, re-marrying is an impossibility now.

[ElNono]

not true. islam is now the most popular religion in the world (by population) and my father and step-mother are both roman catholic, and they were married into the catholic church.

I was talking within the realm of Christianity. Some of the 'immoral' things I mentioned are actually not considered a 'sin' under Islam.

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http://www.scholarofthehouse.org/islamicsexlaws.html


if getting stoned to death involves the burning bush, i'm converting!

[baseline bum]

Really? I was raised a Roman Catholic, by far the most popular religion on this planet, and they'll definitely will not re-marry a divorced man or woman.
So tell me, where is it that I'm being ignorant exactly?
And don't even get me started with IVF or reproductive sciences...

This is false. My father was divorced young and then married my mother as a Roman Catholic in a Roman Catholic church with a Roman Catholic priest doing the ceremony.

[The Reckoning]

i think it has alot to do with the community that the anullment is in. i could see the church being harsher in areas like spain, but america no doubt has a very liberal catholic church presence

[velik_m]

if you have a God that created time (scientifically, the weaving of time and space) there could not have been a before because that is a reference to a time proceeding a time. so you cannot say "who created God" because that is infering that time existed before God created it, which is illogical.

But that would mean that there was no god before the beginning of time. They were both created at the same time - perhaps in some kind of big bang?

[The Reckoning]

perhaps. but if God is the master of time, it could not control Him or influence Him, which is a concept wayyy beyond my comprehension. i mean, if time is considered an element of some sorts, there could be an infinite array of possible elements that we have no way of conceiving, since we havent experienced them yet...