NBA.com, Parker Season splits.
I don't consider it to prove nothing about how the Spurs should play.
But I am still waiting for facts that could convince me TP should shoot less.
It's funny...I think people are so pre-determined that anyone who criticizes Tony Parker for any reason are in this hypothetical "Tony Parker Hater's Club".
I think Shatsafarian's questions about Parker's shot selection are valid. I also think Tony is a below average defender, and gets lazy on that side of the floor.
And just because a shot goes in, doesn't mean the decision to take that shot was the right one, nor does it make it a "good" shot.
Fair enough and maybe the trend isn't a bad thing.
I think his questions are valid. But he should bring some facts to backup what he is saying.
About that I consider his shot selection his good.And just because a shot goes in, doesn't mean the decision to take that shot was the right one, nor does it make it a "good" shot.
This is the reason why:
Parker takes some tough shots he is able to make.
These shots are a reason why he commands respect from the defense.
If he did not take take these shots, the TP/Mason play against the Suns would not have been possible.
Do you really think that without TD/TP/Gino there to create space for him, Mason would shoot that well?
nice one, therefore a shot goes in but it's not a good shot
What facts? It's not like there is a goodshot/badshot statistic somewhere that can be introduced to support this. I've seen Tony Parker make bad decisions with the basketball (same with TD and Manu also). I've seen him get burned by the opposing team's PG, and I've seen him play poorly in the final 5 minutes of a game against a quality opponent two times in a row.
It's nice to drop 55 on the Timberwolves, it's nice to have a prayer answered against the Sixers, and it's nice to be Finals MVP against a clearly inferior opponent, but what we'd really like to see is for Tony to have those moments in clutch situations against quality teams. Doesn't happen that much.
Of course Mason gets better shots playing with those guys...but that's not what this is about.
It's about whether or not Parker should be the go to guy in key situations against quality opponents.
5:29 left in the first last night. Tony took a long range jump shot that was unnecessary.
4:50 left in the first. Fast break - tony went against two guys (Kobe and Fisher) who were draped all over him and ended up getting a charging call.
2-4 Seconds left in the first half - Another fast break. Maybe it's not fair to question his decision with the time left but he was doubled and Manu was open.
Notice how these are kind of subjective? Oh I Love Me Some Me explained it well. Thanks.
Is that really hard to understand?
Just because a shot goes in, doesn't mean it was the best shot a team could have taken on that posession.
Tony didn't play well late in the game last night. I know he was credited with one turnover in the 4th, but he had a bad pass to Duncan that the turnover wasn't tagged to him, and another bad pass to Duncan when TD was lucky enough to call a timeout. He put up an ill-advised three at one point, and was basically locked down by the LA defense late. Those are the facts of the game.
When I watch the Spurs play the Lakers I usually walk away thinking that Phil Jackson doesn't get enough credit for his defensive play calling. Tony was locked down, LA was making it tough to get a good entry pass into Duncan, and Manu's only opportunity in the 4th came on a multi-screened play drawn up for right after a timeout.
Tony didn't do much in the 4th, but I credit LA's defense for that as much as anything else. They historically have done a pretty good job defending Parker...especially in big games it seems.
But Tony's still one of the best PG's around.
No he had to shoot that because the shot clock was near 0.
Remember when Tony was guarding Bynum down low and he stole Gasol's pass to him in the post? That was a great play.
Oh sorry, wrong thread.
One thing Shastafarian refuses to understand is that Parker is held to a ridiculously high standard; it's not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination.
Parker carried the team in the first, Manu in the second, and it was a collective effort in the 3rd. Niether Manu nor Tony played that well in the 4th...but that's how this team works. When the defense concentrates on particular players, other players are willing and capable of stepping up.
No matter what the situation, a certain group of posters must find fault with him. If he blows up for 30+ pts... then he didn't pass enough. If he distributes the ball and has a low scoring game...then he isn't scoring enough. All this group of posters manage to due is fabricate "trends" that obviously don't exist. To call the Spurs most efficient 4th quarter player(pts, fg% and assists) an underachiever is absurd. The guy has two off nights and all the sudden "it's a trend" and he's a detriment to the team in the 4th quarter.
There's a reason opposing fans find these type of arguments ridiculous...it's because they've seen what Tony has consitently done in crunch-time over the course of his career.
How is what I showed fabricated?
If you are having trouble grasping the basic concepts alluded to in my previous post then please just disregard it...because at his point you're obviously beyond reproach.
How is what I showed fabricated?
Oh so are you gonna claim that statement wasn't aimed at me? You just picked the word "trends" out of nowhere. Why don't you answer my question? I'm sorry I'm beyond disappointing to you.
all i know is good things happen when duncan has the ball.
Attention .
The word "trends" is in the thread le.
And you're definitely not beyond using a dictionary. You should try it.
I thought Parker play great. His scoring came within the flow of the offense. There was not one shot I thought was ill advise or forced.
I was more upset with Duncan not showing up in the first half with the missed shots. He came through at the end.
What word should I be looking up? And you specifically called me out in your post. Sorry I assumed you were referencing my recent posts in the thread.
I don't know why Spurs fans don't just think that's awesome that the team has so many good players that anyone can step up at any time. Not every player is going to be a superstar every second they are on the floor. But it doesn't mean the Spurs aren't blessed with the players they've got. And it certainly doesn't mean that TP or Manu or anyone else is "choking" in the 4th.
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