Since when did Detroit's offense become so good?

[Pistons < Spurs]

He should be able to stay with Rip. Hopefully Rip trying to stay with Manu will tire him about a bit.

I kind of expect to see Tay on Manu. Hopefully his legnth will cause some problems for Manu, and not wear out Rip.

And Mohammed:

I remember thinking how good a pickup that was when it happened. He is SOLID. he can in fact make things much more difficult.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Down for what count? The original premise of this topic was you talking about how Detroit's O was overrated. Yeah, it makes no sense because no one ever said they had a top flight O.

So I guess the real question is, when did the Spurs get such a great O? I know you all all are feeling good after the Suns' series, but they couldn't spell, let alone play, defense if I spotted them the D and the fense. Who then have they played with a good defense? The Pacers, Heat and 76ers were 5th, 8th and 19th respectively in PPG allowed. The Sonics, Nuggets, and Suns were 13th, 17th and 30th.

These games will be low scoring, mostly in the half-court sets, and probably 4 of the games decided in the last 4 minutes of each game.

[SWC Bonfire]

These games will be low scoring, mostly in the half-court sets, and probably 4 of the games decided in the last 4 minutes of each game.

My buddy must have never seen how the Spurs got their two championships in the first place.

[mookie2001]

has anyone seen Det's recent record at S.A.? its pisspoor

[SPARKY]

Prince can pose problems with his length yet can he stay in front of a Ginobili? I think Prince's size will work against him. The ideal defense against a Ginobili is someone a bit smaller who is quick and agile enough to stick with him from point A to point B.

[samikeyp]

I kind of expect to see Tay on Manu. Hopefully his legnth will cause some problems for Manu, and not wear out Rip.

Good point...but Manu can do some crazy !

[samikeyp]

These games will be low scoring, mostly in the half-court sets, and probably 4 of the games decided in the last 4 minutes of each game.

I can see that. Anyone on either side that predicts a blowout is way off base.

[Pistons < Spurs]

These games will be low scoring, mostly in the half-court sets, and probably 4 of the games decided in the last 4 minutes of each game.

I don't think it will be as low scoring as ppl think. I think well see scores right around the low 90's for most games. It won't be some 70 -74 tyope game that media is complaining about.

As for the last 4 minutes: you're exactly right!

[SPARKY]

Down for what count? The original premise of this topic was you talking about how Detroit's O was overrated. Yeah, it makes no sense because no one ever said they had a top flight O.

The point is that the game is more likely to be decided on the other end of the court where the Pistons' less than stellar offense faces the best defense in the NBA. It's an error of ommission, not commission in the sports media.

[mookie2001]

you're

a pistons fan that uses the correct "you're" wow thats amazing
you actually dont sound like eminem or kid rock

[2centsworth]

Please, I've been to your fair city. It is pretty much Det on the border.

Really, when was the last time there was a riot in SA? Your city almost single handedly ruined the NBA.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The point is that the game is more likely to be decided on the other end of the court where the Pistons' less than stellar offense faces the best defense in the NBA. It's an error of ommission, not commission in the sports media.

I think their O will surprise you in G1...

[2centsworth]

Did Detroit burn cars last year? I know LA did, but I don't remember Detroit doing it.

a few people lost their lives.

[SPARKY]

I think their O will surprise you in G1...

Then the Spurs' O & D will surprise you even more...

[Extra Stout]

Really, when was the last time there was a riot in SA? Your city almost single handedly ruined the NBA.

Well, we Spurs fans start drinking so early we can hardly stand up by game's end, much less start a riot.

[SWC Bonfire]

Well, we Spurs fans start drinking so early we can hardly stand up by game's end, much less start a riot.

You're damn right

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

a few people lost their lives.

Sport me a link, because that is complete horse .

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Then the Spurs' O & D will surprise you even more...

Nah, it won't. The Pistons will have a tough time scoring, as will the Spurs.

I'd only be surprised if anybody broke the century mark...

[bigzak25]

The Pacers, Heat and 76ers were 5th, 8th and 19th respectively in PPG allowed. The Sonics, Nuggets, and Suns were 13th, 17th and 30th..

good stat. gonna be a tough series ahead.

[Extra Stout]

So I guess the real question is, when did the Spurs get such a great O? I know you all all are feeling good after the Suns' series, but they couldn't spell, let alone play, defense if I spotted them the D and the fense. Who then have they played with a good defense? The Pacers, Heat and 76ers were 5th, 8th and 19th respectively in PPG allowed. The Sonics, Nuggets, and Suns were 13th, 17th and 30th.

Just FYI, points allowed per 100 possessions is a better barometer of defense thann points allowed per game, because teams play at different paces. Your basic point stands, however:

Heat - 5th, Pacers - 11th, Sixers - 10th;
Suns - 16th, Sonics - 25th, Nuggets - 8th.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Just FYI, points allowed per 100 possessions is a better barometer of defense thann points allowed per game, because teams play at different paces. Your basic point stands, however:

Heat - 5th, Pacers - 11th, Sixers - 10th;
Suns - 16th, Sonics - 25th, Nuggets - 8th.

Thanks...where did you get that stat?

[Extra Stout]

Thanks...where did you get that stat?

Here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/

This site also has cool stuff:

http://www.82games.com/

[pjjrfan]

I think the Spurs on offense have executed better than anyone in these playoffs. In almost every victory they made the plays both on defense and offense to get their wins. I don't think it will be an easy series for the Spurs but I like their chances, especially since the team has been getting stronger and stronger as the playoffs went along. The Pistons with one or two additions, are bringing the exact same team from last years run, the Spurs are bringing in a different team from the one that lost to them just 2 months ago. I just like how they have been coming together through all kinds of adversity.

[mavsfan1000]

Is San Antonio better without Turkoglu?

[BillsCarnage]

Geez, after browsing through most of this thread there are a number of chumps on both sides of the fence.

SA is the better overall team, but as Rudy T said, "Don't ever doubt the heart of a champion." If Det. plays D like they have the past two games the Spurs could be in trouble.