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Offense: 92 points a game.
Defense: 86 points a game.
God does that just look boring.
Not only have the Spurs cored more they have a larger margin of victory compared to the Pistons.
Detroit's offense is overrated. It seems as though most of the pre-Finals hype has centered on the Spurs' O versus the Pistons' D but the glaring mismatch is on the other end of the court. The Pistons are going to find it extremely tough to score on this Spurs' defense. Sure, they are used to their defense keeping them in games and allowing them to make up for their offensive woes, 'cept now they are facing the best defense in the National Basketball Association. And it's just not in the halfcourt set. If the Pistons think they can get out and run they are going to be in for a splendid surprise.
Perhaps it's just your standard myopic East Coast media which has the Pistons pegged as a premier defensive unit and any team that comes out of the West as a premier offensive one. I don't know. What I do know is that judging by some comments in this forum Piston fan is going to be in for a rude awakening beginning on Thursday.
Offense: 92 points a game.
Defense: 86 points a game.
God does that just look boring.
Not only have the Spurs cored more they have a larger margin of victory compared to the Pistons.
Spurs 82 and Pistons 68. No offense.
I'd have to agree with this. The Pistons shouldn't be scoring over 85 against the Spurs.
The Spurs should be okay as long as their offense doesn't fold like it did in 2004, 2002 and 2001.
LOL
you almost sound sarcastic in that post
When you have Manu and Tony taking it to the whole and then Barry, Horry, Robinson, and Beno outside waiting.
The offense should not nor will not fold.
It hasn't yet nor will it.
This season, Spurs were:
1st in the NBA in average scoring differential per game (+7.80)
1st in average points allowed per game (88.39)
18th in points scored per game (96.19)
10th in FG% (45.3%)
3rd in average opponents' FG% (42.6%)
1st in average opponents' assists per game (16.89)
1st in average assist differential per game (+4.70)
Last edited by SPARKY; 06-07-2005 at 03:16 PM.
Pistons were:
6th in the NBA in average scoring differential per game (+3.86)
2nd in average points allowed per game (89.46)
24th in points scored per game (93.32)
17th in FG% (44.%)
5th in average opponents' FG% (43.0%)
4th in average opponents' assists per game (19.73)
7th in average assist differential per game (+2.06)
So basically Detroit has a strong defense (though a tad bit weaker than the Spurs' - both per stats as well as from personal observation) and a significantly weaker offense.
Spurs > Pistons
End all be alls of this thread.
2001 - Shaq and Kobe in their primes
2002 - No Manu + Shaq still a force
2003 - le
2004 - 0.4 against 4 HOFers
I'll take the odds that we can do better this year against the Pistons. What do you think?
Don't forget that most of the Pistons stats are vs. a markedly weaker conference where a .500 record can get you in the playoffs.
does anyone know what the stats are for the playoffs only? it's not readily available anywhere that i know of and i don't feel like crunching numbers myself
2005 NBA Playoffs:
Spurs 102 ppg.
Oppt. 95 ppg.
7 point margin of victory.
Pistons 92 ppg.
Oppt. 86 ppg.
6 point margin of victory.
I'd have to agree with this x 2.
Spurs really have to choke to lose this series. But I don't think its impossible considering TP's matchup, and Manu and Duncan facing a tough defense. And the Spurs propensity to lose offensive focus as a unit at times -- although overall in the playoffs they have been solid in this aspect.
I expect Duncan to be the best player in this series, but he needs to dominate like he has done in the past (02 and 03 playoffs).
Manu I am sure will contribute in some way even if his scoring isn't as potent as previous rounds (I don't rexpect it to be). I am not sure he will play excellent basketball, but I am assuming he will still be a big asset for the team even if his shot is off.
I like Nazr's rebounding and physical presense. If he can stay out of foul trouble.
Horry I am comfortable with as long as he gets open looks and plays solid D on Sheed.
I wish Devin was healthy this series so that if Barry can't contribute, then Devin would surely help on the defensive end, and even offensively during a potential Spur drought.
As fas as Detroit's O, it is average over the course of the season. Their D is no better than the Spurs.
Spurs have to play poorly to lose this series. If they play to their potential, they can beat the Pistons convincingly. But if they play like 2004, it is going to be close, and Detroit could conceivably pull it out.
Sparky if you go by POINTS PER POSSESION, on Basketball-Reference.com than your case is further proven. Spurs are significantly stronger on offense, and a little bit better on defense this season. This with Duncan OUT for 16 games. Had they had him for most of that time, their offense might even be in the top 5-6 in the league.
Like I said before:
Spurs offense in the face of defensive pressure > Pistons offense in the face of defensive pressure
I'm sure some kinda of record will be set for consecutive scoreless minutes by Detroit. Their offense is horrible, just wait to the spurs clamp down.
Hmmm...no Piston fan responses yet. I'm guessing the first one will be something along the lines of "but we got passion"...
I think the trollish ones quit for nap time.
Sparky makes a fantastic point.
The detroit offense looked horrible against a piss poor defense VS Miami.
If the Spurs can keep there heads out of there asses on offense, this will be a quick series.
This thread is a joke. You are all in for some education. The Piston's offense sucks that's why they are the defending champs and have a shot at back to back. Has SA played a frontline as good as Det this year? SA is a two man team, and Larry Brown will out coach Pop. I don't see SA scoring. Let Duncan get his 30 and Manu his 30. Where is the rest coming from? Please, people here have apparently not seen the Pistons play. You should learn from their drubbing of the Lakers last year and show some respect.
Piston offense = Suns defense
Spurs are the Cameleon
So that's 60 a game with Manu and Tim alone and no other points from the 10 guys suited up.
Yep. Spurs sweep this .
SA=two man team. Nazr = joke Parker= no J Horry= 85 years old no way Spurs win.
Back to Back baby. East is best.
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