Reply With QuoteIt paints the picture of Demoncrats swimming in screaming..."we're ahead. we're ahead"
The ing morons are still arguing that the memos are not fakes?
Everything will be ok kiddies
It paints the picture of Demoncrats swimming in screaming..."we're ahead. we're ahead"
Dan, the guy was freakin' retired when they say this was written.
Give it up already.
...for this fire.
From Neal Boortz, this morning:
Okay, I think that'll burn through the night..."All CBS had to do to make the case that these do ents were real was to come up with a typewriter capable of producing these do ents in 1973. Oh ... and it has to be a typewriter that one could reasonably expect a National Guard Lt. Colonel who doesn't type might have available for his use. So, Saturday night CBS did just that. They came out with a report that the IBM Selectric Composer could produce the type and the effects that were found on Killian's memos. The Boston Globe also reported Saturday that their do ent expert said that the do ents could have been composed on an IBM Selectric Composer which was available at the time the do ents were written. U.S. News & World Report is getting in on the action by referring to an 'IBM Selectric Composer typewriter which [was] commonly used in 1972.z'"
"Not so fast. Even though CBS referred to the IBM Selectric Composer as a 'typewriter,' that's like referring to a Mont Blanc as a 'ballpoint.' Just do a little Googling with the words 'IBM Selectric Composer' and you'll find that it isn't just a 'typewriter,' it's a typesetting machine. It was used to produce justified camera-ready copy for publications. The price for this machine in the early 1970's was from $3,500 to $4,500 dollars. In 2004 dollars that would be from $16,000 to $22,000. If you want to believe that a National Guard Lt. Col. typed memos in 1973 on a 'typewriter' with an equivalent cost of $20,000, you go ahead. You should know, however, that the Air National Guard, then and now, generally receives much of its equipment as hand-me-downs from the Air Force."
"CBS, the Boston Globe and other media outlets have a problem. They are ins utionally dedicated to the idea of doing everything they can get away with to make sure that George Bush is defeated in November and that John Kerry becomes the 44th president of the United States. 60 Minutes, which, by the way, has quite a history of using false and forged do ents in its stories, apparently has done so again. Dan Rather and his associates know that if CBS steps forward and admits that it was duped, that they used faked and forged do ents in a story designed to attack the credibility of George Bush, the assumption is going to be that those do ents came from the Kerry campaign. Now I know of no evidence whatsoever that Kerry or his campaign staff was behind these forged do ents, but millions of Americans, Americans who may now be on the electoral fence, are going to think that's the case. How, then, does CBS come forward and admit that they were duped without creating a backlash against Kerry?
"I suspect that they're working on that problem at this very moment."
What do you think Nbadanallah? How 'bout you DeSPURate?
About $20,000 in today's dollars.
Does that price include MS Office 2003?
Well, what do you know, there's an IBM Selectric Composer expert with a website:
Have fun guys!
Too bad Dan didn't consult with him first.
We live in a world of $600 dollar per toilet seats and you think two lietenant colonels can't invoice the purchase of a $2,000 typesetter? I don't know if the CBS do ents are forged or not, I suspect we will never truely know, however the point that the do ents make is very clear, Hodges even agreed that 'this was the feeling expressed to him by Killian to him at the time'. W. skirted his duty in the Alabama national guard in 1973.
The key to this whole fiasco is Albert c. Lloyd Jr.. He is former personal director for the Texas Air National guard who certified W. as having ac alated 56 sevice points between May 1972 and May 1973. W. got those 56 points by ac alating 41 points appearing for duty for for only 25 days and received 15 "gratuitous" points for being in the military.
Boston.comThe do ent shows he satisfactorily completed his military obligation for that year," Lloyd said
However, the do ents also show that W's commanders were concerned that no one had seen W. in Alabama, most pilots ac alated well over 56 yearly points and the U.S. government did spend $1 million dollars teaching W. how to fly, so they called him to duty in May, June, and July. W. never showed in June and July.
Boston.comOther records, which were disclosed four years ago, show that Bush was ordered to appear for a flurry of duty days in May, June, and July 1973 -- orders that Lloyd said in 2000 may have been issued because Bush's commanders realized he had not been fulfilling his requirements. The records obtained yesterday indicate that Bush would not have made his minimum for that year but for seven days of duty in May 1973.
His final duty day was on July 30, 1973, even though he signed a commitment to fly for the unit until November 1974.
According to military rules, W. could have been activated for duty in Vietnam, but knowing that the war was winding down, and many other pilots where doing the same thing W. probably didn't think much about skirting the rest of his Air Guard commitment.
Nbadan chooses to go down with the ship.
Gotta give 'im credit for loyalty.
The W. ship is springing leaks all over the place, and Rove and G.H.W.Bush are having trouble holding the boat together...
U.S. NewsA review of President Bush's Guard years raises issues about the time he served
By Kit R. Roane
Last February, White House spokesman Scott McClellan held aloft sections of President Bush's military record, declaring to the waiting press that the files "clearly do ent the president fulfilling his duties in the National Guard." Case closed, he said.
But last week the controversy reared up once again, as several news outlets, including U.S. News, disclosed new information casting doubt on White House claims.
A review of the regulations governing Bush's Guard service during the Vietnam War shows that the White House used an inappropriate--and less stringent--Air Force standard in determining that he had fulfilled his duty. Because Bush signed a six-year "military service obligation," he was required to attend at least 44 inactive-duty training drills each fiscal year beginning July 1. But Bush's own records show that he fell short of that requirement, attending only 36 drills in the 1972-73 period, and only 12 in the 1973-74 period. The White House has said that Bush's service should be calculated using 12-month periods beginning on his induction date in May 1968. Using this time frame, however, Bush still fails the Air Force obligation standard.
Moreover, White House officials say, Bush should be judged on whether he attended enough drills to count toward retirement. They say he ac ulated sufficient points under this grading system. Yet, even using their method, which some military experts say is incorrect, U.S. News 's analysis shows that Bush once again fell short. His military records reveal that he failed to attend enough active-duty training and weekend drills to gain the 50 points necessary to count his final year toward retirement.
The U.S. News analysis also showed that during the final two years of his obligation, Bush did not comply with Air Force regulations that impose a time limit on making up missed drills. What's more, he apparently never made up five months of drills he missed in 1972, contrary to assertions by the administration. White House officials did not respond to the analysis last week but emphasized that Bush had "served honorably."
But, you see Nbadanallah, people (other than extreme partisans) have to care...and, quite frankly, they don't.
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