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    All Utah needed was a 3rd option or a second option because Malone was the only guy who could score big on that team. Jeff Malone? He is no great player.

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    SPURSDAONE:

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    I hate to do it to you Spursdaone but Timmy's career stats surpass KG's:

    Tim
    22.5 PPG
    12.2 RPG
    2.5 BPG
    3.1 APG
    2.9 TPG
    38.3 MPG

    KG:
    20.2 PPG
    11 RPG
    1.6 BPG
    4.5 APG
    2.8 TPG
    38.2 MPG

    Like JON, KG had a learning curve coming straight out of HS. Take his first two years out and his numbers pencil out like this.

    By they way, some of your stats on KG are wrong according to my references's

    KG:
    21.9 PPG
    12.1 RPG
    1.7 BPG
    5.1 APG

    he actually had much better block numbers in his first two years for the minutes played. Which completely supports my theory how blocks don't equal great defense. He had to learn not to go for pump fakes and not foul.

    Taking only the last five years, the numbers pencil out like this.

    KG
    22.5 PPG
    12.9 RPG
    5.4 APG
    1.4 SPG


    TD
    22.8 PPG
    12.3 RPG
    3.3 APG
    0.8 SPG

    I find it ammusing how everyone loves to point out that tim gets more blocks but negates the steals. Last i checked a steal GUARANTEES possesion.

    Pretty equal in these spur fans eyes. Slightly favoring KG in everyone else's eyes. KG will never have the blocks tim does. Tim will never have the assists and steals KG does. Its like Marion and Tim. Technically they play the same position but trying to compare then they are barely playing the same sport.

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    Why should I list any reasons? Why don't you have a list?

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    All Utah needed was a 3rd option or a second option because Malone was the only guy who could score big on that team. Jeff Malone? He is no great player.
    You didn't watch the 1997 or 1998 Finals, or if you did, you didn't know anything about what you were watching. In clutch situations, when the game was on the line, when the Jazz needed Karl Malone to score, his favorite thing to do was take low-percentage fadeaway jumpers instead of taking it to the rack strong.

    That has nothing to do with his supporting cast.

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    i have absolutely no doubt Duncan on the wolves would equal a championship team

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    hey extra stout, y u ridin on malones fade away game, thats been his game most of his career, u expect him to change that in clutch time???

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    [QUOTE=whottt]KG stopped being able to use the teamates excuse last year...

    I mean ...he had 3 guys that either were or had been All Stars not too long ago on his team last season...

    I mean geez...I could win a ing le if I had 4 All Stars surrounding me...

    Who does he need, Shaq? .....................


    KG has had the teamates to win big with even if not to win a le...he's never done it except one time, when he had 3 AS caliber players on his team...



    OK, put Chris Webber in place of duncan

    Do you even win ONE?

    Maybe BEFORE he had the injury. So hush up about AS and recognise that wally isn't the same after blowing out his knee. Glen Rice was an all star too at one point i believe. WOuldn't mean much at the end of a career.

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    i have absolutely no doubt Duncan on the wolves would equal a championship team
    Man you are a big time homer.

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    explain homer to me

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    Didn't he come off the bench in one of those games?
    Had Kirk Gibson's hit in the world series went off the wall and still got thrown out at first bc he was gimpy, would Oakland fans be saying

    Yeah well, you had Kirk playing in that game and we still beat you.

    Sam cassell got hurt in the Sac series. Wasn't THAT bad but reaggravated it worse when Brad Miller bascally sat on him.

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    Homer is a fan who overrates their players because they are a big fan of that team. Miami fans think Shaq is the best. Suns fans think Nash is the best. That is homer.

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    Why should I list any reasons? Why don't you have a list?
    Because you a big fat ass liar. You are not a Spurs fan. You say you are but noone here believes you. Prove it. Can you?
    Can you list anyreasons you actually like this team without stepping all over the you spew about them??

    If legitimate membvers of this forum asked for my list I would gladly post it.


    now get going , you have 48min. left.

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    All Utah needed was a 3rd option or a second option because Malone was the only guy who could score big on that team. Jeff Malone? He is no great player.
    Stockton averaged 15ppg consistently over his career, shooting well over 50% for a guard. That is way more than a second option. Hornacek averaged around 15ppg during his days in Utah, more than a 3rd option.
    Jeff Malone averaged around 18 ppg during his Utah days, more than a 2nd or a 3rd option. And since when have I said Jeff Malone is a great player?
    And don't pull that David Robinson was a great player thing. He was great, but when Duncan came, he was just good, and no where close to Stockton was at his prime (when Malone was also at his prime).

    Compare those to Duncan's other options during the championship years
    99 - Robinson 15.8, Elliott 11.2
    03 - Robinson 8.5, Parker - 9.2
    05 - Parker - 16.6, Manu 16.1

    I know what you are trying to do. Get a good laugh out of getting attention from saying stupid things (basically laugh at people getting angry over your own ignorance), aka trolling. But a true troll picks his battles, you say things that are defendable, things that can follow a certain path of logic and can actually be backed up with stats and such, the so-called exceptions to the rules. Good trolling isn't to come up with incorrect statements and making an ass out of yourself. I hope this lesson has been enlightening to you.

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    Duncan played the entire post-season on two bad ankles and carried the Spurs to a le. Even he, who rarely admits any injury, said they would get pretty sore by the fourth quater. Soft my ass.

    If duncan played with two bad ankles, then KG's knee was busted the whole year.

    Thats how much worse KG's injury was than Tims.

    This is a guy who relies on his leaping too.

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    looooool. ur a joker , cuz then ur the biggest homer on here. OTher then last season, name any other time u could truthfully say Wolves were a championship quality team.
    every season duncans been in the league u couldve made that argument of the spurs

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    hey sick, of KG was busted up, how come he missed no games becuz of that knee, ye we was reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hurt

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    Homer is a fan who overrates their players because they are a big fan of that team. Miami fans think Shaq is the best. Suns fans think Nash is the best. That is homer.
    what about wolves fans think KG is the best?

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    Duncan has missed about 16 games due to ankle problems , i could probably count one hand the amount of time KG missed cuz of his "knee"

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    Malone by the way averaged over 30 points in one year. If Malone had the great defensive players surrounding him like Duncan. Stockton is like Nash on defense and the rest of the team is just average except Eaton. Duncan has all great defenders around him which sets up his game perfectly.

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    wheewww... thank you TDFan2007 for finally ending this debate.

    Now if anyone, professional annoucer, GM, coach or otherwise we can point here for the definative answer.

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    ^^^^

    Same fans that mocked chris webber for sucking right after he got back on the court after his major surgury. Ignoring that he's not playing at full strength.

    So let me guess. If shaq hadn't missed a game and still was a s of his former self, would re s like you chide heat fans that the pistons whooped dat ass even with a healthy shaq?

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    who u talkin about???

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    Malone by the way averaged over 30 points in one year.
    He scored THAT many points and still didn't get anything out of it? What a loser. And your lover boy McGrady (aka iMac, aka McGreedy) averaged 32.1 ppg too, that must make him the better player.
    Damn, know what? Magic only averaged 19.5 ppg in his career! I guess you can say that he is not as good as, say, Mitch Richmond, who averaged 21.0 ppg in his career.

    If Malone had the great defensive players surrounding him like Duncan. Stockton is like Nash on defense and the rest of the team is just average except Eaton.
    You mean the all-time leader in steals in NBA history is a bad defender? So how did he get those 5 All-NBA second team defensive team thingys?

    Duncan has all great defenders around him which sets up his game perfectly.
    and it is nice of you to acknowledge how Duncan makes his teammates better.

    Please tell me more about how Duncan got these awesome scoring teammates during his championship runs, please go on, please list them. And don't forget to list Duncan the choker's choking momemts. Given that he is such a choker, I would expect 8 choking moments he had in his 8 year career. Once a year is all I ask.

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    ambchang, thats how u shut up a in re

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