a team win a team loose the whole team made mistakes over the serie at one point or another
even tim could be blamed he could have said stfu to pop when he benched him
that's the way I see things anyway
tony is good in reg season... happens all time
a team win a team loose the whole team made mistakes over the serie at one point or another
even tim could be blamed he could have said stfu to pop when he benched him
that's the way I see things anyway
That is the way most sane reasonable people see it, but we have some real kooks on this forum!
TP has a reputation of underperforming in the playoffs but, to be fair, last season was probably his best playoff run...until the Finals. Wasn't very good against the Heat but he has a legit excuse for his performance. The injury probably hampered him. Doesn't help that the Heat were primarily focused on stopping him. Regardless, he doesn't deserve anywhere near the amount of blame Manu does. 40 year old Ray Allen, on a cheap contract, was more productive for the Heat than our $14 million SG. Can't expect to win a le when you throw away money on bad contracts to washed-up has-beens.
I always expect to win a le no matter what players are playing, even when Manu, TD and TP retires. You must be one of those that aren't fan of SA but Fan of the players?
like u didn't read 3 sentences
OP with the froof bombs !!!!!!!
just wanted to use that gif, tbh
Not sure about Manu tbh. I mean the guy looked like he tried his ass off making sure that the Spurs didn't win the championship by passing the ball to Heat players.These words coming from a Manu ?
I found that in the past 6 postseasons, Parkers averaged
19 ppg
5.2 apg
48%FG
in 72 postseason games (41-31 in those games for a winning percentage of .569)
I think anyone who actually watches the post season every year knows Parker comes up big.
Pop took a Top-5 All-time player OUT of the game twice in the last minute of Game 6. Tim Duncan, who had delivered 4 rings to this guy already, was forced to sit and watch his 5th ring disappear. Inexcusable. Unforgiveable.
It almost looked like he was trying to throw the game. At least when he did that against the Warriors he at least went with Splitter and we say Splitter's defensive work in closing out the Grizzlies.
And in the past 6 season TP hasn't led the Spurs to win . 6-23 is coming up big now? Game 7 never happens if Parker plays better in 6.
He probably didn't expect Lebron to defend him for the full game.
So his 19 pts in game 6, including 5 in the last 2 minutes of regulation go unnoticed? Manu, Kawhi and Pop all lead to the Spurs meltdown. I stated that your belief that Parker doesn't show in the postseason is just wrong. 19pts 48 % FG is strong numbers over such a long period of time. There is no case you can make that he choked against Miami.
He was being guarded by a ;6'9, athletic, freak of nature, for the entire game on a bum hamstring. Green and Ginobili were ineffective. It was basically Duncan and Kawhi doing things besides Parker.
Splitter couldn't give us much, Neal scored well but not well enough, Joseph was too inexperienced. Diaw isn't capable of carrying an offensive burden (he excels as a complementary player). Factor all of that in and we still had several shots in the final 2 minutes to tie, take the lead, or cut it to one. Parker got us that far, you can't just ignore than fact to help your argument.
Duncan's had rough shooting nights in big postseason games (I.E Game 7 vs Detroit where he shot 10-25) but played well enough to give us a chance. Pop knew he had to ride Parker hard in game 7 and that his hamstring injury was effecting his play, somewhat. Neal, Joseph and Manu each couldn't be trusted to give him a rest.
Parker played hard and left it all out there, for a Spurs fan to not see (and respect) the effort he played with is bad enough, but to criticize him for losing a heartbreaking series ,that really wasn't his fault, is even worse.
By the way not winning an NBA le doesn't mean your some kind of loser.
07-08-Lost game 1 at L.A with Duncan having a triple-double and a 15 point second half lead. Lost game 4 because of a non call on Brent Barry who was fouled attempting a 3 pointer. Lost to Lakers in 5 games in WCF.
08-09-Manu missed postseason. Parker average 28.4 ppg, 5 asts, and 54%FG. After Parker and Duncan our 3rd best player was Roger Mason Jr. We lost to Dallas in 5 games in 1st round.
09-10-Missed key stretch of second half of season, Manu and Duncan helped us make it in as the 7th seed. Parker helped us upset the Mavs before we were swept by the Suns. The biggest issue was our lack of spacing. Phoenix could double Parker, Manu and even Duncan because RJ couldn't hit corner 3's. He has to take 17 footers (which he still missed). Lost in 4 games in the Semi Finals.
10-11-Parker and Manu were co-scoring leaders heading into the 1st round. Playing against a younger, more athletic, longer defensive team. They upset us in 6 games in the 1st round. Parker still managed 19.7 ppg, with Conley and Allen hounding him.
11-12-Lead team in scoring and assists in en route to first WCF in 4 years. Lost in part becaue of lack of scoring at 2 guard, allowed Brooks to switch Westbrook on Green and move Thabo Sefolosha on Parker. Coupled with excellent p&R defense by Collision, Ibaka, and even Perkins. Parker was tasked with leading the Spurs over a more talented team. He came up short but 3 of our 4 losses were close games. Lost in 6 games in the WCF.
12-13- Had the best post season of his career (in my opinion) leading us to the Finals hit essentially the game winner in game 1, exploded in game 5 for 26pts, and came up clutch in game 6. Struggled in game 7 with hamstring injury. Lost in 7 games in the Finals.
Last edited by cd021; 08-04-2013 at 11:56 PM.
Trust me I hope next year TP comes out with a vengeance. And when TP does, I will be the 1st to eat crow.
He was good in most of the postseason as well TBH. He did not play great in the last two games as most outside of Tim and Leonard did not, but he had a very good run up until that point.
Good commercial? But doesn't really apply to Parker, now does it? He was the starting guard on 3 Championship teams. You're point was Parker choked and its common for him to come up small. My numbers I've produced proves otherwise. You've got to the 6-23 performance in game 7. I countered with valid points and even a comparison to Duncans game 7 at Detroit.
You then posted a commercial about 2nd place. Taking the 7 +paragraphs and reducing it to one sentence and using a commercial to respond .....really?
By Game 6 and 7 we really had only two options. Parker and Duncan. Kawhi played well early but faded late. Missing an free throw that would have helped clinch a le, and in game 7 missing an open 3 that would have given us a 1 point lead with a little over a minute left.
Parker was legitimately hampered by his injury. Having someone 7 inches taller and quick enough to stay in front of you certainly didn't help. Parker still got the Spurs in position twice to win a le.
If we were talking about say
Chris Paul
Deron Williams
&
Steve Nash
then this commercial still wouldn't apply considering they've never even been runner up to the le.
If you mean he chokes in the postseason, you're wrong. As i've already posted to the OP twice...
Tony Parker since 2007 postseason (6 seasons)
19PPG
5.2 APG
48FG%
Regular Season P.E.R-20.8
Post Season P.E.R.-20.7
Spurs 41-31 (.570)
1 Finals appearances
3 WCF appearances
1 Semi Finals appearance
He is the biggest reason, we've been relevant this long (after winning in 07, when Duncan was 31) . Duncan looked on his last leg two seasons ago and has resurfaced as the teams co MVP.
Kawhi, Green and Splitter need to continue to take on bigger roles and we can have a couple of shots to send Tim out in style.
03 - TP bench in favor Speedy Claxton the last mins of game 6.
05 - Duncan had a prime Manu go 8-13 23 points 5 rebounds 4 assist in game 7. Something I expected from MVParker this year but he didn't do that.
07 -
Parker is what he is. A 3rd option on a championship team. Maybe next year he can take the next step. Will see.
I do give Parker props for calling out the front office 2 seasons ago. The "we aren't contenders anymore" took balls to say.
After that comment the Spurs traded HWMNBN, Drafted kawhi, started Tiago, and Pop actually preach more defense.
Last edited by Kool Bob Love; 08-05-2013 at 12:43 AM.
Tiago really needs to work on his ability to finish this summer. So many easy missed baskets.
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