TP woulda been the hero in game 6 if the Heat didn't get fluky to go in tbh. Parker's performance down the stretch was a thing of elite players. This is coming from a Parker hater, btw.
This ing forum is blaming either Manu or Pop for last season.
I blame Tony "fake MVP" Parker. 6-23 for19 points in game 6 and 3- 12 for 10 points in game 7 of the NBA FINALS.
Wow. And what makes me cringe is TP's "promise" to Tim Duncan.
Promise to make the finals but not win it? This muther er man. Tim Duncan didn't need any promises from this french .
TP woulda been the hero in game 6 if the Heat didn't get fluky to go in tbh. Parker's performance down the stretch was a thing of elite players. This is coming from a Parker hater, btw.
If you watched the POs you would ask.
20 and 10 in the WCF on a ridiculous %
Two games without TO against the most disruptive defense in the league
2 epic daggers at the end of two different games including one in game 6
And he was injured
The choke of the century is on Pop deal with it
Danny Green 2-11 from 3 after this stupid ing comment.“I can’t believe he’s still open at this moment in the series,” Spurs point guard Tony Parker said after Game 5. “They are still trapping me and doubling [Tim Duncan], and Danny is wide open. He’s shooting the ball well. If you are going to leave Danny wide open, he’s going to make threes.”
Wow
please, im pretty sure the heat had enough motivation and reasons to shut d green downDanny Green 2-11 from 3 after this stupid ing comment.
Although I think the Finals loss is pretty much all due to Pop pulling a Frank Vogel with Duncan at the end of Game 6, you got a point with that comment. It's too much of a coincidence that Danny Green is torching the Heat from the 3-point line until that comment. I mean, after torching them in Game 2 & 3, why don't the Heat adjust to shutting him down then?Danny Green 2-11 from 3 after this stupid ing comment.
Parker also called out Westbrook before the 2012 West Finals and probably got that dude to play above his ceiling because of it. er just needs to keep his mouth shut. The Spurs should just pay the fines and ban media access to Parker.
tp def almost won it for the spurs det 3 and pull up j to put the spurs up by 2...
this prolly would be less painful if tp didnt score those 5 pts
probably because Parker never got close to giving the ball 8 times to the opponent in a closeout game
Parker was our "MVP" the whole season. He was our "star" player. But this pulled a kobe and went 6-23 in the most important game of the season?
You really gonna defend this ? You of ALL People. wow.
I wish we had Speedy Claxson to close out game 6.
Tony Parker going hero mode pissed me off. I liked that he made those two clutch shots, but after that he just wanted to win the MVP award and his sucking was the biggest problem in the OT.
I was only one who gave Tony after the series ended. Here is what I had to say in a previous thread:
This team finally hit the good side of variance during these playoffs. During the past few seasons, we were championship contenders, and arguably better than the teams we played, but Manu breaks his elbow a few days before the playoffs and we drop a very close game 1 in 2011. Zbo hit some ridiculously difficult 20 footers at the end of close games. In 2012, Serge Ibaka/Perkins/Collison shoot 90% from 17 feet for Game 4 and we lose a close one and in the very next game Harden hits a ridiculously hard 3. Bad side of variance.
Look at these playoffs. We draw the Lakers first round and they're starting D-league all-stars. Against the Warriors we play two atrocious games back to back at home but get extremely lucky and win a game in a situation that literally had never been done before in NBA history. Steph Curry rolls his ankle and is never the same. Against Memphis we won every close game, including two OT's that could've gone either way. Series looked nothing like a 4-0 beatdown. We could've been down 3-1 easily.
Against the Heat, Danny Green sets an NBA record for made 3-pointers while making them at a 67% clip thru 5 games. Lucky, and not indicative of the median we can expect over a large sample size. That very much was a huge reason why we were up against the Heat after game 5. Then bad luck starts to happen to us. He crashes back down to earth and regresses to the mean (totally expected, altho horribly bad timing) during the next 2 games. We lose a game that the basketball gods stole from us game 6. Tim Duncan misses a shot and subsequent tip-in in Game 7 that he makes 9/10 tries. We experienced some ugly variance the last 2 games.
One thing I will say though: Strictly speaking in a relative sense, Tony Parker was BAD against the Heat. He had two good games (1/5) and didn't have a single great game that stood out after torching the Grizz. It's amazing to me that Pop/Manu have been the scapegoats for this series when so much was made about this being TONY's team and we didn't lean on Manu AT ALL this year and couldn't have expected much more than what he gave us. Extremely disappointed in Tony. He looked good enough physically to me to get the job done and didn't.
Tony was bad, but let's not forget he is probably Finals MVP if we pull out Game 6 and we're probably singing his praises.
1 Manu missed free throw
1 Kawhi missed free throw
1 Lebron three
1 Chris Bosh rebound
1 Ray Allen 3
Losing in overtime
Any one of those 6 things don't happen, we are hoisting a banner and having parades. Get some perspective please. If all of those situations were 50/50 situations, it would make it a 1.55% chance the Heat win that game. We lost. It was heartbreaking and extremely unfortunate that it happened. But don't blame a front office that put a team together with a 98.45% chance of winning the NBA Finals for not winning the championship.
Tim Duncan was Finals MVP had we pulled out 6.
What TD did in the 1st half that game was LEGENDARY.
To bad TD had Tony Bryant trying to steal his shine.
Duncan played really really bad offensively first five games. He should've dominated Chris Bosh every game and failed to do so. Of course, he anchored us defensively so he obviously as a 37 year old 7-footer playing 35-38 minutes a game we can't expect to carry us offensively. We knew that all year. His first 3 quarters Game 6 was the stuff of legend, and something I will always cherish as a die-hard Spurs fan, but he also ran out of gas and didn't score a single point in 4Q or OT.
We had zero business being in this series. Everyone outside of Tony left every fiber of energy they had out there on the court game 6 and 7. I will be eternally proud of this team, and it's a major reason this loss hasn't hit me too hard.
This Finals reminded every Spurs fan just how amazing Tim Duncan is, and how BLESSED we are to be able to have him be on our San Antonio Spurs for nearly two decades.
Manu was basically a forgotten man in this Spurs offense all season/playoffs until the Finals started, this Pop basically asked him to run our team. He looked terrible doing it because he had no reps all year long handling the ball for an entire game and running the offense, because Tony did that for us for 82 games and 3 playoff rounds.
Agree. Tim Duncan was at his best in the first half of game 7.
Tony Parker went cold in the Finals. Just like Green. Even if he scored 20 pts (he scored just 10), in game 7, he will not win MVP.
I am a fan of TP but so disappointed of his selfishness sometimes. Of his playing the hero role.
He was bad in game 2. Worse in game 6, Worst in game 7. That's why Pop yanked him out.
That's why Manu was on the floor and that's why we had so many TOs.
Sorry, but IMO only Duncan & Kawhi were consistent enough to deserve that trophy throughout the finals - games 1-7.
That's the reason why Spurs does not have 5 rings.Also TP disapeared last two games.
Oh right, the only thing that matters in this forum is turnovers. Then Magic Johnson was a very bad player and that the reason about Lakers only won 5 rings when he was playing and not 14.
cause he was injured and did more than enough to carry us and bring us to where we got... you should not expected him nothing for game 7, cause game 6 totally kill him, he will never recover, he is done, will never be the same player again, you could have seen that by the look on his face.... http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219314
Pure BS.
The facts of the matter is the WHOLE team botched winning the championship, and consensus says Game 6 was the crux, and not any one person is totally responsible. Only idiots, blind perfectionists, and trolls believe otherwise!
The facts don't lie, it just is what it is, and can't be changed just because a select few seem to think fiction is fact!
We all saw the games, and you have free will to think whatever you want to think, but regardless of that, it still doesn't change the facts: the whole team lost the 2013 finals and not 1 or 2 or 3 or even 4 individuals. It is that simple.
Now, if you want a rational and logical debate on the subject, then debate this: did the Spurs Lose it more so than the Heat Won it, or did the Heat Win it more so than the Spurs Lost it? In other words, for those of you too dense to understand the question: did the Spurs give it away, rather than the Heat took it?
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Why are we looking for a backup for Parker?
Because he plays too damn much on tired legs
He goes hero when the offense breaks down, he is tired, and we are out of options. He is not Lebron. He legitimately has to work hard the entire time he is on the floor. I was a hater to, with his falling down and not getting up to play D when a foul was not called.
He is not a big strong guy. He needs rest during games in the playoffs when he gets pushed constantly, and is working so hard on D when Duncan's man is brought out for the PnR.
good god...
I don't think so. Tim was FMVP by the end of game 6. And if the Spurs had won game 7, there's no question that Tim would have been FMVP
Well said.
Hope the singling out and blaming on individual player(s) and/or coach(es) ends here. Life goes on, even after losses that are difficult to deal with.
1) He was injured most of the series
2) I'm pretty sure Parker basically won the championship in Game 6 before the team pulled off the biggest chokejob in Finals history.
Thanks, the great majority of us KNOW the facts.
Now, as for the "difficult to deal with the loss" part,
I contend that it really is NOT that difficult especially when you shed some light on the subject and consider these facts: the Spurs were NEVER supposed to get as far as they did, they were NEVER favored to win the 2013 championship, and the fact they were there with a chance to win it went against all the odds!
Thus, we should be a of a lot more THANKFUL, than sad, or even hurt, and we should be PROUD that we even had a shot at it in the first place, no one picked the Spurs to get that far, we were heavy underdogs!
pure rhetorical comment, completely disconnect from reality that i don't know even how to respond to this...
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