Scottie Pippen takes shots at Kawhi

[Play Boban]

More like he's the only positive.

How is he a positive when we pay him $19 million for no production in the playoffs? He just creates drama and takes up cap space.

[daslicer]

Not long after the surgery with the ankle still giving him trouble he still got back on the court because Jordan was retired and his team pretty much sucked without him. And like I said, dude was playing for practically 1/6th of Kawhi's salary while feuding with Bulls management because he had a hatred for Jerry Krause lol.

I grew up during the 90's and remembered the feud Pippen had with Krause. The first thoughts that came to my head is that Pippen probably has no empathy to what Kawhi is going through with Spurs management because he had it 100X worse with bulls management. The Spurs haven't really gone after Kawhi and when they have taken shots at him it's been pretty passive and indirect. The bulls with Krause openly and aggressively attacked Pippen through the media. From '93 to '95 Pippen was always the headline in big trade rumors. The feud with Pippen and Krause garnered national attention back then. Also at the time Pippen like you said was getting grossly underpaid unlike Kawhi who is currently on a max contract.

[DPG21920]

I doubt the Spurs would have given Kawhi a super-max contract even if he would have been the MVP this season, they would have asked for some paycut.

There are market that can't sign super-max contract without putting at risk their financial future..I guess SA is one of them.

Spurs have handed out plenty of max deals/extensions; this feels completely unfounded

[YGWHI]

Spurs have handed out plenty of max deals/extensions; this feels completely unfounded

Previous max and extensions aren't nearly similar to today-supermax contracts.

[phxspurfan]

Alpha Pippen doing Alpha things

[Hoops Czar]

How is he a positive when we pay him $19 million for no production in the playoffs? He just creates drama and takes up cap space.

Kawhi is drama-free. It's his entourage that's filled with drama. Kawhi and his empty head isn't capable of causing drama. He's nothing more than a puppeteer, an extension of his Grampa's will. He's being told what to do, what to say and how to act. Kawhi is just folowing orders like a good little soldier.

[DPG21920]

Previous max and extensions aren't nearly similar to today-supermax contracts.

Sure, but you can only pay the max based on the current CBA. The SuperMax is large obviously but so are the revenues now.

Im just saying, that people acting like SA never pay full value aren’t being honest. Could that change? Sure. But until that happens SA has earned the benefit of the doubt and I highly doubt they would let Kawhi walk due to money assuming he was healthy and things were good.

[jbspurs]

Maybe someone said something like, If you can't play, then even bother coming to the games....

[YGWHI]

So the answer is no. They didn’t find anything that SA missed.

No, the answer it's "we don't know if they didn't find anything different"

We heard rumors that his doctors saw something in his quad, even a guy like Skip who supports PATFO said that in his show a months ago.

We heard people on radio shows saying he didn't receive the treatments he needed in the summer...He was training like always when the SA doctors should have told him he needed rehab his quad.

Even Danny said in the postcast that Kawhi's injury got worse ..in the summer.

[duncan2k5]

So are a lot of players out there playing. Timmy battled through injuries. Meanwhile, Kawhi has missed two straight playoffs. He's a net negative. He costs $19 million for zero production and is a team cancer.

No... Tim Duncan and everybother player didn't play through all injuries... Stop the bull

[duncan2k5]

Yes it is so clear his own team thinks he is a pussy..

Former players calling him out.
Media burying him.

Former players and media members are also defending him... Dummy

[duncan2k5]

Well, I didn't trash him. I thought he played well enough while he played himself into shape. I don't think he played poorly because of his injury, I think he was getting himself into game shape. I guess it's hard to know if it was one or the other, but he missed the entire preseason and the first third of the season before stepping on the court. Of course he's going to struggle the first few games while he gets into game shape and gets back to being accustomed to game speed.

Did u not see him after the game? And did u not see the plethora of ppl on here thrashing his play? Those things combined show that he was still injured

[DPG21920]

No, the answer it's "we don't know if they didn't find anything different"

We heard rumors that his doctors saw something in his quad, even a guy like Skip who supports PATFO said that in his show a months ago.

We heard people on radio shows saying he didn't receive the treatments he needed in the summer...He was training like always when the SA doctors should have told him he needed rehab his quad.

Even Danny said in the postcast that Kawhi's injury got worse ..in the summer.

You seem to blame SA doctors. Do you not blame his new doctors for not improving things when Kawhi himself said he was close?

[duncan2k5]

Ah, that's not what I'm saying. I don't doubt that Kawhi can play hurt. He played on a sprained ankle last year in the playoffs, until it got too sprained. But my guess is that he was freaked out enough by his current injury and that is has been prolonged that he probably decided he wouldn't play until he was 100%. And the Spurs probably thought he was well enough to play.

They were wrong... He tried to play and failed big time... Dude couldn't walk...

[YGWHI]

And the agent wouldn't have let things get so bad that the entire media is calling out Kawhi.

For the record, Impact Sports Management was still Kawhi's agency this season. It's not like "all uncle alone".

And the media is changing narratives all times, this case isn't an exception.

If Kawhi can heal and has some success after the trade, media would change the narrative questioned SAS PATFO for losing him. It has always been this way with media.

[acoelho1]

So, if Spurs doctors had it wrong, how come his new doctors have not been able to resolve it either. Clearly, Kawhi was expecting to be back by now but may have had another setback. Also, for the record, Danny never said when those setbacks happened. It was a pretty vague comment and sounded like Danny just trying to protect a friend. It’s all speculation but we are at least 8 months into this injury and still no timetable for recovery. Maybe the quad will never feel perfect. Then what? Sit out another year?

[YGWHI]

Do you not blame his new doctors for not improving things when Kawhi himself said he was close?

No. Because I know that getting rehab in the season isn't as much effective as an offseason rehab.

Rest-time, drugs, treatments are different.

[DPG21920]

No. Because I know that getting rehab in the season isn't as much effective as an offseason rehab.

Rest-time, drugs, treatments are different.

Sure but suffering setbacks under their watch?

[YGWHI]

Also, for the record, Danny never said when those setbacks happened. It was a pretty vague comment and sounded like Danny just trying to protect a friend.

He didnt say when Kawhi had those seatback but he already said he played injured in last playoffs and the injury got worse in the summer.

[YGWHI]

Sure but suffering setbacks under their watch?

Way better than having his injury mishandled in offseason under team-medical staff watch...

[duncan2k5]

Way better than having his injury mishandled in offseason under team-medical staff watch...

And then have that staff tell u that ur good to go... Play, and realize u are doin NG serious damage to urself... These guys on here are stupid

[Play Boban]

No... Tim Duncan and everybother player didn't play through all injuries... Stop the bull

I’m right. You’re wrong. The end.

[Play Boban]

Kawhi is drama-free. It's his entourage that's filled with drama. Kawhi and his empty head isn't capable of causing drama. He's nothing more than a puppeteer, an extension of his Grampa's will. He's being told what to do, what to say and how to act. Kawhi is just folowing orders like a good little soldier.

That may be, but either way he’s a cancer.

[acoelho1]

He didnt say when Kawhi had those seatback but he already said he played injured in last playoffs and the injury got worse in the summer.

He said nothing of the sort so don’t misquote to fit your argument. All he said was that “he dealt with it some last year.” The key word there is some which means it didn’t bother him all year and he didn’t specify what timeframe or if it even occurred in the playoffs. Nevertheless, if his new doctors have it figured it out, why not announce a timetable on his full recovery?

[MoSpur02]

I don't like Pippen as an analyst or whatever he is on ESPN, but respect him as a player. He was damn good. However, I can say that what he is saying is right on. From what I have been told the team actually doesn't want Kawhi on the bench. They feel somewhat betrayed and are pissed at how Kawhi has handled all this. I honestly don't blame them for feeling that way.