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    I think it's fair to say that NBA refs reward flopping. And thus many players flop including whiny barbosa

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    That scrub lit yer ass a blaze in just 20 short minutes.
    Tell me, did that scrub's team win or lose?

    Thanks for playing.

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    I think it's fair to say that NBA refs reward flopping. And thus many players flop including whiny barbosa
    I don't like flopping in general but I like it a whole lot less when the other team's player is the one doing it. Last year Steve Nash came into contact with Reggie Evans when we were playing the Sonics. The 6'8", 245# Evans jumped up and landed on his back and Nash was called for a foul. Evans made Nash look like a sumo wrestler.

    Leandro has struggled to live up to expectations since we drafted him with a pick we got from the Spurs almost 3 years ago. Finally, this season, he was starting to break through and he had just had the best 1/2 of basketball in his NBA career. The Suns had the lead, largely because of his efforts, and not much else had gone right for Phoenix since facing the Spurs in the WCF. I'm sure everyone was just really disappointed.

    Manu is an easy player to hate when he is on the Spurs because he makes everyone else look like they don't know how to play defense, and he flops. But NO ONE would turn down the chance to have him on their team. I thought the way the Sonics and Nuggets defended, (mugged) him was disgusting. I'd rather have floppery than thuggism.

    Thanks for letting me post. The Spurs are a real class organization and this board seems to have a lot of thoughtful posters. If you want to see a messed up board, check out the Mavs forum. Michael

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    5ToolMan,

    I don't know if you've read my other posts in this thread, but I have said I don't have much of a problem with players exaggerating to get a call, and that includes taking offensive charge fouls. What I do have a problem with is when a player is barely hit and falls straight to the ground as if he were punched.

    I like my eggs sunny side up, clearly delineating the yolk from the white, to show the distinction between two different plays that you are trying to analogize. Ben taking a charge foul from Tony Parker is not the same thing as Manu NOT being hit at all by Amare Stoudemire and falling straight to the ground. My definition of flopping is different than mere gamesmanship and exaggerated movement. To me, flopping is getting a foul call on unjustifiable and falsely predicated contact (or non-contact if applicable). Pancakes!

    I don't begrudge Manu when he overacts to get a foul call. But, I do think it's poor play for someone as good and talented as Manu to rely on faking getting hit to get an advantage.

    I disagree that Ben ever flops, under my view of the word. Again, exaggeration is one thing, and I understand it's part of the gamesmanship of the sport. Pretending you get hit when you didn't or got that a brush of a finger could make you fall back 5 feet is another. With Lindsey Hunter, I'll give you, but I didn't see him flop much at all last year. And, your assessment on Dice, Hamilton, Billups, and Prince flopping is really unfounded. They don't flop. Manu flops. Allen Iverson flops. Vlade Divac used to flop. Billups, Prince, Hamilton, and Dice don't even take charges. They generally contest a shot or go for steals or blocks. I think you might have just mentioned them for argument sake, because that contention is really unfounded.
    Since you have a hard time being subjective, I will point out the many flops that Pistons perform. Oh that is right, in their case it is allowed gamesmanship. LOL!

    Camera angles and film speed can show very different reality of the same action. On the move you say Manu flopped with no contact, my slow motion view filmed from a different angle than the press force fed the masses shows direct contact to the head. I don't know if Manu flopped with the hit, but in my view the hit was clear. And from a bull like Amare, just a light clip can knock down a train.

    I noticed you, and none other parroting how Manu flops had any responce to my description of the contortionist style that Manu plays. A style that im my view, causes him to take huge spills with what appears to be light contact to the casual viewer.

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    manu is a flopper, the spurs won, barbosa will be alright someday. wgaf. end of discussion.

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    The fact that Manu takes a lot of hits has nothing to do with him flopping. Most of his flopping occurs on the defensive side of the ball.
    This quote alone, makes this thread pointless.

    The fact Manu takes a lotta hits has nothing to do with him flopping?? Most of his flopping occurs on defense???

    Sorry man, you have absolutely no clue.

    No offense

    Oh, and not only did Manu get that elbow, but that elbow was swung around, throwing Manu back under the basket.

    Silly thread.
    Last edited by SouthernFried; 11-22-2005 at 01:27 AM.

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    Tell me, did that scrub's team win or lose?

    Thanks for playing.
    You are so stupid it's not even funny. That scrub, before he was injured, scored 14 points en route to a Phoenix lead at the half.

    You can talk about the game and that's fine. No one is saying that Barbosa would have guided the Suns to the win.

    But for a player to score 14 in just 20 minutes vs. the almighty Spurs defense, it's pretty ignorant for said player to be repeatedly called a scrub.

    Thanks for playing? Huh?

    LMAO at you lameness.

    You, my goat ing Spurs fan, are the scrub of this board.

    Perhaps, more like a plague.

    Maybe next time Manu flops, he falls right into little Timmy's knee?! Now that would be classic!

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    Barbosa is good.

    This is a Spurs board, we don't care about the suns. I hope they all go on the IR.

    Later.

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    Barbosa is good.

    This is a Spurs board, we don't care about the suns. I hope they all go on the IR.

    Later.
    BULL ! Then why are all these threads on the Suns or related to the Suns started by all the Spurs fans? For us rival fans who browse Spurs forums for our Suns content?! LMAO....


    I'll stop when other stop posting flat-out BS. Bein' that Mrs. Ellis is of like opinion to me, I consider it my privelage to put those who'd rather be ignorant and biased than informed and classy in their place.

    As of now, I've never done a thing to be banned and until I am, yer stuck with me. Perhaps it was being called " hole" upon my first few posts here on a misunderstanding by some lame Spurs fan that has me all up in arms. Maybe it's just all the love I receive.

    Either way, I love it here and am thinking of puttin' down roots!

    I'll try my best to contribute as necessary.

    Don't want me to post? Then it's really quite simple.

    Don't unnecessarily or unjustly trash other teams, other teams players or other teams fans.

    I understand this is a Spurs forum... but that doesn't give ignorance a license to pollute such a quality site.

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    BULL ! Then why are all these threads on the Suns or related to the Suns started by all the Spurs fans? For us rival fans who browse Spurs forums for our Suns content?! LMAO....


    I'll stop when other stop posting flat-out BS. Bein' that Mrs. Ellis is of like opinion to me, I consider it my privelage to put those who'd rather be ignorant and biased than informed and classy in their place.

    As of now, I've never done a thing to be banned and until I am, yer stuck with me. Perhaps it was being called " hole" upon my first few posts here on a misunderstanding by some lame Spurs fan that has me all up in arms. Maybe it's just all the love I receive.

    Either way, I love it here and am thinking of puttin' down roots!

    I'll try my best to contribute as necessary.

    Don't want me to post? Then it's really quite simple.

    Don't unnecessarily or unjustly trash other teams, other teams players or other teams fans.

    I understand this is a Spurs forum... but that doesn't give ignorance a license to pollute such a quality site.
    I didn't ask you stop, i just said we don't care about the suns and me personally could care less if they all go on the IR.

    This is a Spurs site sir. Therefore, the grammar usage is to call the other team losers, scrubs, doormats, whatever.

    If you don't like it then go somewhere else, because this forum is a spurs forum.

    Please don't call spurs fans...... lame spurs fans, because there is no such animal.

    Now for the record, without Amare, your team is up the creek without a paddle or a life vest. That enables the Suns to receive the glamorous le of Scrubs.

    Don't like it, to bad... you shoulda re-signed your players that you had last year.

    The Suns are through.

    Later Sir.




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    I didn't ask you stop, i just said we don't care about the suns and me personally could care less if they all go on the IR.

    This is a Spurs site sir. Therefore, the grammar usage is to call the other team losers, scrubs, doormats, whatever.

    If you don't like it then go somewhere else, because this forum is a spurs forum.

    Please don't call spurs fans...... lame spurs fans, because there is no such animal.

    Now for the record, without Amare, your team is up the creek without a paddle or a life vest. That enables the Suns to receive the glamorous le of Scrubs.

    Don't like it, to bad... you shoulda re-signed your players that you had last year.

    The Suns are through.

    Later Sir.




    LMAO... maybe you shouldn't feed tha animals. Or at least stop giving me both ammo and a reason to continue posting here.

    All you can do is call names. I'm trembling.

    Don't like me, put me on your ignore list.

    Yeah, Suns are through

    Without Amare, the Suns have a 2-OT loss to the Mavs, a final minute loss to the Pistons and a final minute loss to the Spurs. Yes, they are three losses, but for a team missing it's best player, that's hardly a poor showing. One shot in each game and the Suns are 7-2. Woulda, coulda, shoulda and all aside, however, the Suns will be fine so long as Amare returns to health. Maybe not this year, but they have seven 1st rounders coming in the next four years, not to mention fine prospects in Barbosa, Diaw and Jones. Throw in Marion and Bell and all that's needed is a big and a PG. Hopefully Milos Vujanic can become that PG and a good big can be had threw the draft.

    I don't intend to rock the boat.

    Maybe you should realize, that despite the Spurs success, at the end of the day, you're still just a fan that cheered for them and not an actual, integral part of the team.

    It's just a game, right fellas?!

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    I disagree. The Suns will always be a good organization that wins in the regular season and loses in the playoffs. But keep your hopes up, that's what fans are for, donating time, money, and loyalty.

    At the end of the day, the Suns were eliminated by the Spurs like they weren't even there. As a fan of a team with three championships, you're right, I am just a fan, a fan of the NBA Champion San Antonio Spurs.

    Besides aren't your #1s protected and last time I checked there isn't anything coming into the NBA for awhile that would help you get past Detroit, San Antonio, Dallas or the Clippers.

    Have fun Suns fan. Welcome to the forum of the NBA Champion San Antonio Spurs.

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    Spurs won the series 4-1, but every game was close and decided in the final quarter, if not final minutes.

    I won't make excuses, so I'll just leave things at, yep, you won and ya earned it.

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    A championship is earned and is never guaranteed. It's amazing that the Spurs have won three, because I remember 99 when they won their first, it was the best moment ever, but then it happened two more times. Who knows what or when it will happen again, but those were the best moments I have had as a fan. There are a few teams I would share that joy with but definitely not a Suns fan.

    I apologize.

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    The Suns get Atlanta's pick either this year (lottory protected), next year (top-3 protected) or in 2008 (unprotected).

    Wide concencious is that it'll come in 2007, the first year the infamous 2006 class is eligable for the draft. Greg Oden #1, with plenty of talent to round out the top-10, including several quality bigs.

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    A championship is earned and is never guaranteed. It's amazing that the Spurs have won three, because I remember 99 when they won their first, it was the best moment ever, but then it happened two more times. Who knows what or when it will happen again, but those were the best moments I have had as a fan. There are a few teams I would share that joy with but definitely not a Suns fan.

    I apologize.
    I'll remember you said that.

    The Suns are hardly the Lakers.

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    maybe you can trade some of those picks and a few of those pickups for Garnett. Then you would be in the picture again.

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    That's been talked about, but I'm not sure two players like Garnett and Amare can co-exist. They already have a rivalry twixt them and both want to be "The Man".

    It would be beautiful... Marion, Thomas and two or three picks for Garnett and a bad contract?!

    I don't know. I think Amare and Garnett would kill each other.

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    As long as they can play defense, they'll be fine. Defense wins championships, does D antoni know anything about defense? I am not convinced, he seems more of a friend to the players than an actual coach. He seems to get caught up in the smacktalking which is not his place. Is that a good assessment?

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    Defense is only an obstacle in the way of more and more points

    I like physical play. Just not unnecessary flopping, though again, with Manu it's a skill.

    I wish the Suns had a bruiser. I'm hoping for Sheldon Williams of Duke with either their pick or the potential Laker's pick (top-10 protected).

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    Um, the Spurs are not physical, they just contest every shot. Flopping is an NBA problem, not a Manu problem. Nash is a flopper too.

    I thought the NBA was working on this stuff?

    As for Manu, dude has won on every level and when he is not throwing the ball to the fans in the third row is usually pretty unstoppable. I think his career high was against the Suns in their own house. Is that correct?

    Seems to me like your just a little bitter. Oh and btw, Barbosa is not very good, he might look good making layups, but under pressure, he is soft.

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    this thread just prove how stupid spursfans are. manu flops period. thats all he does. dont even try to defend it by saying all nba players flop. no they dont. they take charges by having their feet set. manu on the other hand exagerates on every play as if iam watching the matrix.


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    Um, the Spurs are not physical, they just contest every shot. Flopping is an NBA problem, not a Manu problem. Nash is a flopper too.

    I thought the NBA was working on this stuff?

    As for Manu, dude has won on every level and when he is not throwing the ball to the fans in the third row is usually pretty unstoppable. I think his career high was against the Suns in their own house. Is that correct?

    Seems to me like your just a little bitter. Oh and btw, Barbosa is not very good, he might look good making layups, but under pressure, he is soft.
    Huh?

    BTW, Barbosa has a better +/- than Nash this season in the fourth quarter.

    He also led Brazil to the Fiba Americas Championship.

    He's unproven, if anything.

    I'm hardly bitter, just annoyed. I couldn't care less, except for all the " Barbosa... he's a whiny " talk.

    And I love watching Manu play. He's a cold-blooded killer and yes, his career high came in Phoenix in that classic overtime game.

    If he didn't flop so much, he'd be up there with Wade, Bibby and Frye as my favorite non-Suns players.

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    So, now it's all right to mock a player who's sad that his injury occured in such an unnecessary manner? That's all he's trying to say. He wish his injury had happened another way. Something other than a flopping player nearly blowing out his knee.
    It is clear you and Barbosa are either very slow, or just bitter enough to cloud your views. The injury was caused because in the game of hoops, physical play creates contact. I know that is new concept for you in Suns land, at least on the defensive end. But the extended arm and contact from your teams hired thug started the sequence of events that resulted in Barbosa's injury. I know it is tough ... for some ... but you both need to be men and just walk away.

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    BULL ! Then why are all these threads on the Suns or related to the Suns started by all the Spurs fans? For us rival fans who browse Spurs forums for our Suns content?! LMAO....


    I'll stop when other stop posting flat-out BS. Bein' that Mrs. Ellis is of like opinion to me, I consider it my privelage to put those who'd rather be ignorant and biased than informed and classy in their place.

    As of now, I've never done a thing to be banned and until I am, yer stuck with me. Perhaps it was being called " hole" upon my first few posts here on a misunderstanding by some lame Spurs fan that has me all up in arms. Maybe it's just all the love I receive.

    Either way, I love it here and am thinking of puttin' down roots!

    I'll try my best to contribute as necessary.

    Don't want me to post? Then it's really quite simple.

    Don't unnecessarily or unjustly trash other teams, other teams players or other teams fans.

    I understand this is a Spurs forum... but that doesn't give ignorance a license to pollute such a quality site.
    Psst ... you don't score many debating points or friends; spinning, stomping and cursing.

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