Kidd, Armstrong, Malik Allen, for Devin Harris, Stackhouse,Diop, Ager and George

[yavozerb]

Harris is 10 yrs younger than kidd and gets about 12 million less than kidd...Great trade by NEts

[cash459]

Didn't Duncan average like 35ppg and 14rpg on 70% fg against the mavs in the 06 playoffs? what killed the spurs was going small against the mavs and try to outscore them. Don't forget that Dirk also torched the spurs along with Josh Howard and Jason Terry, now we get a playmaker who can create for others expect Dirks PPG to jump up about 5 more pts.

just play the warriors again, and it doesnt matter.....you will CHOKE....AGAIN

[rascal]

but he cant STOP parker....that is waht defense is....STOPS...if he cant slow down parker, how do you expect him to steal it from him??

He will get some steals but also get beat at times by Parkers speed.

[nsrammstein]

just play the warriors again, and it doesnt matter.....you will CHOKE....AGAIN

Just like the spurs's ass choked against the mavs in the 06 playoffs?

[Buddy Holly]

Honestly, I'd like for this trade to go down just so it forces Peter Holt's hand to finally make a trade.

[Buddy Holly]

Just like the spurs's ass choked against the mavs in the 06 playoffs?

Coming back from 3-1 and losing game 7 in overtime isn't choking jackass.

Being up 2-0 in the finals and eventually losing 4-2 is ING CHOKING.

Winning 67 games and being number 1 and losing in the first round to the number 8 seed is ING CHOKING.

[dbreiden83080]

Just like the spurs's ass choked against the mavs in the 06 playoffs?

Spurs didn't choke, they got beat in an all time great 7 game series with a lot of ty officiating. You got some of that in the finals, with the phantom calls that Wade got. Last year against the warriors was 100% a chokejob. Got beat in 6 games against an 8 seed.

[ludda]

The Mavs have always needed a floor general, someone with great court vision and passing skills.

I think it makes them better. Diop and Stack are inconsistent, had a good series against the Spurs, nothing will gaurantee that again.

And Harris is a great young player but will never be a top PG. Kidd is old.

I don't think the Mavs are done dealing. They know theyve created holes and since they pulled this trigger, Im inclined to believe they're going to get more pieces.

[yavozerb]

Honestly, I'd like for this trade to go down just so it forces Peter Holt's hand to finally make a trade.

Make what trade??Who is out there you think would help and what does the spurs have to offer that people want?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Despite the recent trades Dallas still scared me the most out of the West. Kidd on the Mavs, losing Harris, Diop and Stack would make me less worried.

I was waiting for Cuban's knee jerk reaction to the other trades to come to fruition. It looks like that is happenning.

Mark should give GW a job.

[Buddy Holly]

What do the Spurs have to offer???


Expiring Contracts.

[TeyshaBlue]

In the East man, in the East.

You wanna bet those stats don't go down when he has to play a Jazz, Nugget, Laker, Spurs, Trailblazer, Houston team almost every night?

pffft. Weak.

11/03 Jason Kidd New Jersey Philadelphia 16 Pts, 14 Reb, 10 Ast 88
11/07 LeBron James Cleveland Utah 32 Pts, 15 Reb, 13 Ast 12
11/14 LeBron James (2) Cleveland Orlando 39 Pts, 13 Reb, 14 Ast 13
11/16 Jason Kidd (2) New Jersey Orlando 11 Pts, 19 Reb, 10 Ast 89
11/21 Jason Kidd (3) New Jersey Portland 12 Pts, 11 Reb, 13 Ast 90
11/23 Caron Butler Washington Golden State 26 Pts, 11 Reb, 10 Ast 1
11/23 Baron Davis Golden State Washington 33 Pts, 11 Reb, 15 Ast 7
11/24 LeBron James (3) Cleveland Toronto 37 Pts, 12 Reb, 12 Ast 14
11/25 LeBron James (4) Cleveland Indiana 30 Pts, 11 Reb, 10 Ast 15
11/27 Jason Kidd (4) New Jersey Memphis 12 Pts, 15 Reb, 12 Ast 91
11/30 Andrei Kirilenko Utah LA Lakers 20 Pts, 11 Reb, 11 Ast 3
12/05 Tracy McGrady Houston Memphis 17 Pts, 10 Reb, 12 Ast 3
12/09 Jason Kidd (5) New Jersey Washington 13 Pts, 10 Reb, 13 Ast 92
12/11 Jason Kidd (6) New Jersey LA Clippers 11 Pts, 10 Reb, 11 Ast 93
12/14 Kirk Hinrich Chicago New York 15 Pts, 12 Reb, 14 Ast 2
12/19 Caron Butler (2) Washington Chicago 29 Pts, 11 Reb, 10 Ast 2
12/22 Jason Kidd (7) New Jersey Golden State 15 Pts, 11 Reb, 12 Ast 94
12/26 Marcus Camby Denver Milwaukee 10 Pts, 11 Reb, 10 Blk 3
01/04 Jason Kidd (8) New Jersey Charlotte 11 Pts, 10 Reb, 12 Ast 95
01/05 Jason Kidd (9) New Jersey Atlanta 10 Pts, 13 Reb, 14 Ast 96
01/08 Jason Kidd (10) New Jersey Charlotte 13 Pts, 11 Reb, 12 Ast 97
01/23 Josh Smith Atlanta Denver 22 Pts, 12 Reb, 10 Ast 1
01/24 Baron Davis (2) Golden State New Jersey 25 Pts, 12 Reb, 10 Ast 8
01/25 Jason Kidd (11) New Jersey Denver 13 Pts, 11 Reb, 10 Ast 98
02/01 Brandon Roy Portland New York 20 Pts, 10 Reb, 11 Ast 1
02/04 Hedo Turkoglu Orlando Dallas 13 Pts, 12 Reb, 13 Ast 1
02/06 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas Milwaukee 29 Pts, 10 Reb, 12 Ast 1
02/06 Earl Watson Seattle Sacramento 23 Pts, 10 Reb, 10 Ast 1
02/08 Jason Kidd (12) New Jersey Charlotte 19 Pts, 11 Reb, 13 Ast 99

[nsrammstein]

Coming back from 3-1 and losing game 7 in overtime isn't choking jackass.

Being up 2-0 in the finals and eventually losing 4-2 is ING CHOKING.

Winning 67 games and being number 1 and losing in the first round to the number 8 seed is ING CHOKING.

The Ball dosen't like except in the 06 finals.....

[Spurfanindallas]

I don't think the Mavs are done dealing. They know theyve created holes and since they pulled this trigger, Im inclined to believe they're going to get more pieces.

I bet they go after miller or Cory M. from the clips that would give kidd someone to pass to.

[Buddy Holly]

The Ball dosen't like except in the 06 finals.....

What?

[FromWayDowntown]

Didn't Duncan average like 35ppg and 14rpg on 70% fg against the mavs in the 06 playoffs? what killed the spurs was going small against the mavs and try to outscore them. Don't forget that Dirk also torched the spurs along with Josh Howard and Jason Terry, now we get a playmaker who can create for others expect Dirks PPG to jump up about 5 more pts.

But the Spurs had to go small because their bigs (Mohammed and Nesterovic) couldn't guard anyone when the Mavs went small. It was outscore the Mavs by staying big and lose an offensive threat or outscore the Mavs by going small and playing as many offensive threats as possible. That problem doesn't appear to exist any more in that matchup, as guys like Oberto, Elson, and Bonner have proven at least serviceable in matchups with small ball teams (to say nothing of the fact that Pop has bothered in the last 2 seasons to play small ball lineups during the regular season to be ready for teams that try to go small against his).

I think, however, that in the 6 matchups since that playoff series ended, the Spurs have had their biggest problems dealing with Devin Harris, both as a guy who attacks the rim and as a guy who can defend Parker and cut the head off of the snake. That's not to say that Parker hasn't had games where he was effective, just that Harris has made it much, much more difficult for Parker to be efficient and to make plays that benefit his teammates. I don't know that Kidd is capable of having that effect -- when Parker torched Kidd in the first 3 games of the 2003 Finals and that stopped largely because Byron Scott moved Kerry Kittles onto Parker for long stretches of time.

[cash459]

Coming back from 3-1 and losing game 7 in overtime isn't choking jackass.

Being up 2-0 in the finals and eventually losing 4-2 is ING CHOKING.

Winning 67 games and being number 1 and losing in the first round to the number 8 seed is ING CHOKING.

EXACTLY!! Definition of choking: DALLAS MAVERICKS... on multiple occasions!

[cash459]

What?

[nsrammstein]

I expect the mavs to go after Mike Miller

PG - Kidd
SG - Miller
SF - Howard
PF - Nowitzki
C - Dampier

[Ghost Writer]

Do matchups matter or not?

I guess just when it's convenient.

I can't believe your are happy the Mavs got the walking triple-double for an oft-injured PG and bench players.

[yavozerb]

What do the Spurs have to offer???


Expiring Contracts.

Does holding onto these contracts somehow hurt the spurs? Barry was playing pretty damn good and Elson at least know the system.

[nsrammstein]

So who on the spurs will guard Dirk when he and Kidd run the pick and pop ?

[pad300]

I expect the mavs to go after Mike Miller

PG - Kidd
SG - Miller
SF - Howard
PF - Nowitzki
C - Dampier

With what pieces?

[cash459]

I expect the mavs to go after Mike Miller

PG - Kidd
SG - Miller
SF - Howard
PF - Nowitzki
C - Dampier

you part of the FO??? where the did this come from!? and with what cap room?

[yavozerb]

So who on the spurs will guard Dirk when he and Kidd run the pick and pop ?

I would simply tell the spurs players to under DIrks screen and if Kidd wants a jumpshot so be it...His jumpshot can suck pretty bad sometimes