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again, dirk does the SAME thing....it happens. its a part of the game now. mostly due to the lack of inconsistency of foul calls by the refs.
now were analyzing jokes........they're getting desperate here........
again, dirk does the SAME thing....it happens. its a part of the game now. mostly due to the lack of inconsistency of foul calls by the refs.
all I asked was for specific plays against the Mavs. that should be easy.
I'm defending my team within reason, and learn to read, I haven't defended or condoned Stackhouse's conduct.
We'll see. I don't need to feel better about myself by calling out Grizzlies and T-Wolves fans.i think you have the insecurity of the fact that your team is on its way down the hole.
If Manu wore a Mavs jersey, I would be understanding of why he gets under the skin of opposing players. Doesn't mean I wouldn't want him on my team, but I don't wear green and blue glasses.If manu wore a mavs jersey, you would think he walked on water.
are you justifying your teams cheap shots with this statement?
Stackhouse should ask the bigs around the league how it is to play most of the game under the basket they will tell him how many elbows and knees are thrown without fouls being called. They take the punishement and play.
You were playing coy over why people wouldn't take Manu's history into account. Is coy less harsh than obtuse?
I am not trying to be coy or obtuse or any other 50 cent word.People can judge the incident any way they want. My personal take is that this particular thread was dealing specifically with that incident yesterday and I felt Stackhouse was in the wrong. There are people who are going to take Manu's style of play over his NBA career into account. That's is their take. There are also people who hate the Spurs so intensely that no matter what any Spurs player does, especially Manu, its wrong. Manu could walk into the buliding and start warming up when Jerry Stackhouse walks in and stabs him and someone like Shank is going to be ok with that. "He had it coming!"
and before you say it, yes, it works the other way too....Manu could walk up to Stackhouse's locker, steal his mom's diabetes meds and there will be Spurs fans who will try to blame Stack for leaving them out.
My point, again, is this. I thought what Stackhouse did was wrong, even if he felt Manu elbowed him, you have to be smarter than that.
What is the relevance? I never said I condoned Terry's nutpunch or Stack using Manu's face as a trampoline, in fact I've condemned them. You're just trying to deflect attention away from Manu.
You can't use the word 'smarter' in a sentence with 'Stackhouse.'
Take the time to read what else I've written in this thread and you'll have your answer.
Dirk does not drive opposing players into the ground after boxing them out. Yes, he flops to exaggerate contact and get calls, so does 95% of the rest of the league. That's another discussion for another thread.
you said manu was wrong for "excessive" contact on the box out.
if thats not saying that you think that what manu did was wrong, then what the is that?
how is there excessive contact on a box out? are you only allowed to touch a player for a certain amount of time?
True. Sadly, a lot of it comes from the Euro League players although their American counterparts are picking it up quickly. Manu and Dirk are really bad about it but its not just them.
which is exactly what i was saying. Manu DOES do the same thing. So if youre gonna about Manu's actions, follow it up with something about dirk too.
if youre so much about being able to see everything, show it in your posts.
no, you mentioned Manu's history, so you must have some specific examples of Manu's "antics" against the Mavs. The attention is squarely on Manu's play, but you're not able to list specific examples. Don't give me the cop out answer of his reputation around the league. Be specific, and I'm only asking for plays against the Mavs.
That comes down to how you see the play evolving - was Stackhouse 100% to blame for pulling Manu down? Or was Manu already leaning into Stack and likely to go down and Stackhouse took it further than was necessary?
I see the latter. And that's what pissed Stackhouse off - that he couldn't just box out without falling down/into him.
I can see how he could frustrate other players like that. I mean dude is boxing you out so good, you have to "be a man" and force him to the ground from behind.
Yes Manu does flop and sometimes it does get rough but I'd rather have a guy who comes out and puts everything into his play and plays 100%+ every night and takes a beating every night. Also your talking about Manu hurting people but how about all the players that have injured Manu too? The thing about Manu though is if you hurt him instead of going at somebody or swinging at them he'll just play even harder and hurt them that way.
Please make up your mind already. Manu went too high with the elbow or he's falling down on stack?
@ Mav fan not realizing what a good clean hard box out is and acting as if it somehow instigated this.
Stack wasn't pissed at Manu taking him down because HE took Manu down. He was pissed that his team had just blown an opportunity to blow the game wide open and instead down. He was pissed that he had just seen his meal ticket crumple on the other end of the floor. He was pissed that he had just been outworked on the glass by this skinny big nosed white boy who even though he can't speak perfect English speaks it better than most Americans while speaking at least 2 other languages as well.
He was pissed because he's tired of getting owned in every way you can think of but instead of responding the way players like Manu do, he responded in a way. If you hit Manu in the face does he swing back? If you knock him down does he run at you? If you foul him hard does he take a cheap shot? No. Manu s you where it hurts the most. He ing owns you on the court.
The only thing Stackhouse proved was that he's still (and probably always will be) mentally weak. I remember when this guy was supposed to be a franchise player. Right.
Manu is a thug for playing 110% every single minute he is on the court..
Not to mention all of the careers he has ended in the last 6 years.
What an abomination.
well done.
Stack wasn't pissed at Manu taking him down because HE took Manu down. He was pissed that his team had just blown an opportunity to blow the game wide open and instead down. He was pissed that he had just seen his meal ticket crumple on the other end of the floor. He was pissed that he had just been outworked on the glass by this skinny big nosed white boy who even though he can't speak perfect English speaks it better than most Americans while speaking at least 2 other languages as well.
He was pissed because he's tired of getting owned in every way you can think of but instead of responding the way players like Manu do, he responded in a way. If you hit Manu in the face does he swing back? If you knock him down does he run at you? If you foul him hard does he take a cheap shot? No. Manu s you where it hurts the most. He ing owns you on the court.
The only thing Stackhouse proved was that he's still (and probably always will be) mentally weak. I remember when this guy was supposed to be a franchise player. Right.
But how is Stackhouse getting pissed off Manu's fault? It's not Manu's fault that Stackhouse can't control his emotions. Manu is supposed to care about every single players' fragile state of emotion and make sure he doesn't piss anyone off? That's weaksauce.
Shank can't come to terms with how fragile Stackhouse's ego must be. You can't disrespect Stack and expect him not to explode. I mean who the does Manu think he is. No one here should expect a grown man like Stack to have self control. Never.
Like Shank said, we should all be proud of Stack for not going Kermit Washington all over Manu's face. Someone give that man a citizen ship award already!
Exactly.
Now go die in a fire, Manny.
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