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    What can Chalmers do for you???

    I think Rondo just showed everyone the type of impact Chalmers could have on the defensive end for the Spurs.

    Here's hoping the Spurs can find a way to get Chalmers in the black and silver.

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    DX has the hornets taking him?? makes no sense.

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    Chalmers isn't dropping past #20 , unless the nuggets trade up for Westbrook

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    Draft Report: Mario Chalmers Of Kansas
    Authored by Christopher Reina - 19th June, 2008 - 4:10 pm

    Mario Chalmers is the third best true point guard in this draft and though there is a humongous gap between he and Derrick Rose and is surely behind D.J. Augustin, he has the makings of a solid starter at the position.

    His handoff from Sherron Collins where he dribbled left and his a high arching 3-point shot over Rose is already part of folklore.

    He has a great burst of speed into the crossover and knifes into the lane really well to create floaters and dish offs.

    But Chalmers will also use pre-dribble ball fakes before getting into his dribble.

    He will frequently dribble into the defender and then pull back for a mid-range jumper with the space he creates. Chalmers uses this bump a lot and is brilliant at it.

    Chalmers has really nice tempo coming off pick and rolls while getting into the middle. He is comfortable getting doubled here and will be patient and poised.

    He has great balance penetrating into the lane and has enough hang time and body control while in the air to dodge potential shot blockers.

    He’s not the absolute most gifted passer, but is a good one for a point guard. He gets the ball to the man rolling to the hoop at the ideal time, making sure he draws help defenders to maximize his teammates’ potential openness. Chalmers also has an ideal delivery on the drive and kick. His decision-making is extremely mature and he had a huge jump in his assist-to-turnover ratio from 1.36 to 2.25 this year.

    Chalmers is really more about timing and feel than pure imagination as a passer, which is not necessarily a bad thing for a point guard expected to keep things organized rather than absolutely run the show.

    One area that he must improve upon is when he goes baseline and hits a dead end- he ends up leaving his feet to either get a shot off or pass it away. The shot is low percentage and the pass is turnover prone. He should instead preserve his dribble and get out of the area and reset the offense, something Steve Nash and Chris Paul do flawlessly.

    He has great speed in transition, not nearly as fast as a Ty Lawson, but is plenty quick enough and is more effective at changing speeds. He also has enough elevation and length to finish open dunks.

    Another area of his game that is much stronger than Lawson and your average point guard is how well he moves without the ball. He makes great backdoor cuts, grabs handoffs and really can play well without the ball in the halfcourt. His path when curling around for shots is excellent, as he squares up and has his body aligned with the hoop ahead of time.

    Chalmers’ shot mechanics are very good and not surprisingly he was a 47.8% from beyond the arc. His shot is compact, nearly perfect and extremely consistent. Chalmers will rarely miss a perimeter shot to the left or right. He has great range and can extend it to the pro line already.

    Importantly, Chalmers shoot it very well when contested. On the catch-and-shoot, he has an incredibly quick release and therefore isn’t concerned with getting it blocked.

    The 3-point shot is available to him in transition because of how quickly and smoothly he can jump stop into it.

    Defensively, Chalmers will get a ton of steals with his quickness and cunning. He pokes a lot of balls away from post players when helping.

    He also gets a lot of on-ball picks against the dribbler in the open floor.

    Chalmers also gets into the passing lanes incredibly well with his long arms and quick feet.

    If he isn’t valuable enough on the defensive end of the ball, Chalmers also really enjoys scrapping for defensive rebounds.

    There are a lot of teams that need point guards and I have a lot of respect for GMs that disregard how much 'value' they think their slot needs to yield and simply draft the best fit. Even though Chalmers is unlikely to become an All-Star, he will vastly improve the team that selects him.

    http://realgm.com/src_fromtherafters...ers_of_kansas/

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    Chalmers isn't dropping past #20 , unless the nuggets trade up for Westbrook
    With what money are the Nuggets paying these guys with?

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    Yeah, Chalmers makes a lot of sense. However, if CDR is on the board (like in Ford's mock draft), that'd be a tough decision.
    Realistically, the Spurs have a need for both players. Therefore, if a scenario exists where both are available as the draft enters the 20's, it makes Marcus' trade scenario with Seattle to acquire pick #24, even more of a good idea.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99486

    With no first rounder next year, the Spurs need to creatively find a way to "double-dip" in the first round of this years draft.

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    wow if you could pull off Chalmers AND CDR?

    I know it aint happening, but, damn that would be nice....

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    wow if you could pull off Chalmers AND CDR?

    I know it aint happening, but, damn that would be nice....
    I agree.

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    Draft Report: Mario Chalmers Of Kansas

    Mario Chalmers is the third best true point guard in this draft and though there is a humongous gap between he and Derrick Rose and is surely behind D.J. Augustin, he has the makings of a solid starter at the position.

    His handoff from Sherron Collins where he dribbled left and his a high arching 3-point shot over Rose is already part of folklore.

    He has a great burst of speed into the crossover and knifes into the lane really well to create floaters and dish offs.

    But Chalmers will also use pre-dribble ball fakes before getting into his dribble.

    He will frequently dribble into the defender and then pull back for a mid-range jumper with the space he creates. Chalmers uses this bump a lot and is brilliant at it.

    Chalmers has really nice tempo coming off pick and rolls while getting into the middle. He is comfortable getting doubled here and will be patient and poised.

    He has great balance penetrating into the lane and has enough hang time and body control while in the air to dodge potential shot blockers.

    He’s not the absolute most gifted passer, but is a good one for a point guard. He gets the ball to the man rolling to the hoop at the ideal time, making sure he draws help defenders to maximize his teammates’ potential openness. Chalmers also has an ideal delivery on the drive and kick. His decision-making is extremely mature and he had a huge jump in his assist-to-turnover ratio from 1.36 to 2.25 this year.

    Chalmers is really more about timing and feel than pure imagination as a passer, which is not necessarily a bad thing for a point guard expected to keep things organized rather than absolutely run the show.

    One area that he must improve upon is when he goes baseline and hits a dead end- he ends up leaving his feet to either get a shot off or pass it away. The shot is low percentage and the pass is turnover prone. He should instead preserve his dribble and get out of the area and reset the offense, something Steve Nash and Chris Paul do flawlessly.

    He has great speed in transition, not nearly as fast as a Ty Lawson, but is plenty quick enough and is more effective at changing speeds. He also has enough elevation and length to finish open dunks.

    Another area of his game that is much stronger than Lawson and your average point guard is how well he moves without the ball. He makes great backdoor cuts, grabs handoffs and really can play well without the ball in the halfcourt. His path when curling around for shots is excellent, as he squares up and has his body aligned with the hoop ahead of time.

    Chalmers’ shot mechanics are very good and not surprisingly he was a 47.8% from beyond the arc. His shot is compact, nearly perfect and extremely consistent. Chalmers will rarely miss a perimeter shot to the left or right. He has great range and can extend it to the pro line already.

    Importantly, Chalmers shoot it very well when contested. On the catch-and-shoot, he has an incredibly quick release and therefore isn’t concerned with getting it blocked.

    The 3-point shot is available to him in transition because of how quickly and smoothly he can jump stop into it.

    Defensively, Chalmers will get a ton of steals with his quickness and cunning. He pokes a lot of balls away from post players when helping.

    He also gets a lot of on-ball picks against the dribbler in the open floor.

    Chalmers also gets into the passing lanes incredibly well with his long arms and quick feet.

    If he isn’t valuable enough on the defensive end of the ball, Chalmers also really enjoys scrapping for defensive rebounds.

    There are a lot of teams that need point guards and I have a lot of respect for GMs that disregard how much 'value' they think their slot needs to yield and simply draft the best fit. Even though Chalmers is unlikely to become an All-Star, he will vastly improve the team that selects him.

    http://realgm.com/src_fromtherafters...ers_of_kansas/

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    get SUPER MARIO!!!!!

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    Chad (Sacramento): Would chalmers be a good fit in Utah backing up D-Will?

    SportsNation Chad Ford: Yes, but I'm starting to believe he won't be there. I think the Suns are looking seriously at him at No. 15. I think that's a little high for Chalmers, but I do like him. As for the Jazz, I think they'll go big.
    Steve Kerr strikes again

    Although Chalmers at 15 would be a of a reach, I could see Kerr doing it if he thinks the Spurs are going to try to trade up to the late teens to try to nab Chalmers.

    Lawson pulling out basically ended any shot at Chalmers at 26 for the Spurs

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    Steve Kerr strikes again

    Although Chalmers at 15 would be a of a reach, I could see Kerr doing it if he thinks the Spurs are going to try to trade up to the late teens to try to nab Chalmers.

    Lawson pulling out basically ended any shot at Chalmers at 26 for the Spurs
    That would be mega lame if they did that. We need Chalmers because we don't even have a 1st round pick next year.

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    Spurs aren't in desperate need of a backup PG, but Chalmers would've been a luxury had he fallen to #26.....and that doesn't look plausible at this point.

    Oh well....now the Spurs can concentrate on the wing positions.

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    damn Kerr!!! screwing us over every chance he gets...

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    Spurs aren't in desperate need of a backup PG, but Chalmers would've been a luxury had he fallen to #26.....and that doesn't look plausible at this point.

    Oh well....now the Spurs can concentrate on the wing positions.
    What!? the spurs are hurting pretty bad at the backup PG spot... Vaughn is horrible... he has decent D but not much else...

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    damn Kerr!!! screwing us over every chance he gets...
    It's just a rumor....and there are a TON of those flying around. Suns also rumored to be interested in Rush and a few others.

    Bottom Line: SOMEONE of value is dropping to the Spurs at #26, even if it's not Chalmers.

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    What!? the spurs are hurting pretty bad at the backup PG spot... Vaughn is horrible... he has decent D but not much else...
    Vaughn and Barry this year....and maybe a second rounder or free agent.

    When you've got Parker with the ability to play 35 solid minutes a game, PG is not as big a need as wing, where there are nothing but one-dimensional aged vets.

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    What!? the spurs are hurting pretty bad at the backup PG spot... Vaughn is horrible... he has decent D but not much else...
    BTW, I'm not suggesting that it's NOT a need....just that there are other, bigger needs.

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    Perhaps George Hill for a PG?

    Edit: not at 26.

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    Damn, Chalmers would be a great backup point for Porter to tudor.

    Darnt.

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    BTW, I'm not suggesting that it's NOT a need....just that there are other, bigger needs.
    Bigger needs I guess is arguable, but as far as using the draft to fill our needs immediately? Chalmers is the best option available, assuming he falls in the early to mid 20's.

    All of the wings likely available to the Spurs will take more time to develop, and probably won't be able to impact the game the way Chalmers can. The scoring wing needs to be addressed through trade/free-agency.

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    Steve Kerr strikes again

    Although Chalmers at 15 would be a of a reach, I could see Kerr doing it if he thinks the Spurs are going to try to trade up to the late teens to try to nab Chalmers.

    Lawson pulling out basically ended any shot at Chalmers at 26 for the Spurs
    Year-in year-out, Chad Ford's reliability ranks right up there with Hoopsworld.

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    With what money are the Nuggets paying these guys with?

    not mine, so i dont really care

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    As New Orleans Hornets blog Hornets247 reports, New Orleans has been conducting very few workouts with first round caliber players, leading some to suspect that some kind of trade may be in place. Representatives of more than one team told DraftExpress that they believe the Hornets actually promised Mario Chalmers that he will not get past them at 27, leading him to decide to keep his name in the draft and hire an agent. The problem is that Chalmers very well may not be there at 27, as he is reportedly getting heavy looks from teams like Phoenix at 15, Cleveland at 19, and especially Denver at 20. Chalmers continues to work out in the meantime for teams such as Portland and Indiana.
    http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...nding-Up-2940/

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    Internet rumors are swirling that the San Antonio Spurs, whose general manager R.C. Buford is the father of current KU player Chase Buford, promised Chalmers they would take him if he was still available at No. 26.

    http://www.kansan.com/stories/2008/j...hawks_will_go/

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