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    Malone might be
    Malone is retiring forget it.

    That could be true; you've watched far more of his games than me. But I think the opposition center would be far more wary of leaving Drob alone to stop penetrating guards, than he would if it were Horry/Rasho
    Of course they would.

    David Robinson was a top 50 all time NBA Player.

    Rasho and Horry are just role players.

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    Sparky,

    In summary, your first point is valid, but I don't think Malik is the answer there (given how he's playing this season).
    The thing is, the Spurs stubbornly stuck with a rotation more suited to an uptempo game when a change was needed. Considering that the starting center is still Rasho and it appears the Spurs are moving to using Horry as the first big off the bench, then we are in the same situation again this season.

    The one thing the Spurs have going for them is that at least out West there isn't much of a threat of facing the type of frontcourt that they did in the LA series, though it wasn't exactly pleasant earlier this year watching a Danny Fortson and a bunch of misfits pretty much work the Spurs over in the paint.

    Looking out East there is more cause for concern. If Detroit can get their act together they are capable of playing the style of D that LA did last postseason.

    Pop's stubborness must end.

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    Sparky, do you think giving Malik more minutes alongside Tim would be enough against Fortson & Co., or the Wallaces, or Shaq + any frontcourt acquisition Miami might make? Doesn't he seem too turnover-prone and lacking in confidence?

    TPark, fair enough, Rasho and Horry are not DRob. Given that, how do you propose to solve the problem of defenses clogging up the paint against the Spurs?

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    how do you propose to solve the problem of defenses clogging up the paint against the Spurs?
    Hit wide open shots.

    And don't play teams that have a healthy Karl Malone.

    We're halfway there.

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    TPark, fair enough, Rasho and Horry are not DRob. Given that, how do you propose to solve the problem of defenses clogging up the paint against the Spurs?
    easy. Hit your outside shots.

    Barry, Bowen, Parker, Ginobili, have to hit htere shots.

    But ball movement, some motion mixed in with an agressive, moving Duncan denote it.


    Watch last night's game. THey TRIED To pack, but couldnt.

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    I think Rose's confidence problems are borne out of his on again, off again BS with Pop. All things considered, Malik is the best fit as the backup big on the roster. He's strong enough to play inside, yet mobile enough to play in the transition game. When you have a finesse style center like Rasho you need a little more muscle coming off the bench.

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    So a Hedo-type welfare plan is in order?

    Play him or trade him.

    Too bad we didn't keep Haslem.

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    Shooting is a byproduct of your post game and penetration. If the Spurs are stuck standing around waiting for something to happen again against a team with a strong interior D it's going to be another disappointing postseason.

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    Forgive Sparkus, he's never heard of a pick and roll.

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    Barry got such a "plan" a few weeks ago.

    Rose is a proven postseason player.

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    ChumpDumper, the question is, is Donyell Marshall the right guy? If we look to move Rose, then shouldn't we try to bring an inside presence to replace him? Marshall would be very useful playing PF against small-ball teams like Phx, but doesn't it come down to which is the best line-up against teams which are big upfront? Would he be enough against Detroit, who have McDyess off the bench in addition to the Wallaces?

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    Forgive Sparkus, he's never heard of a pick and roll.
    Which would be dependent upon penetration. Next. Actually, I digress but it seems as though you could use some penetration of a different variety. I hear TPark is free, maybe you and he can work something out.

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    Tell me Sparkus, would you go for a Malik for KThomas trade?

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    [QUOTE]Too bad we didn't keep Haslem.

    A freakin men.

    I wince at every Miami heat game, when I think of how good this team would be, with Haslem being the starter, Rasho Horry and Malik off the bench.

    OUCH OUCH OUCH!!!!
    Rose is a proven postseason player[QUOTE]

    1 playoffs, does not a postseason player make.

    Robert Horry IS a proven player I agree.

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    Which would be dependent upon penetration. Next.
    Yes, there is so much penetration in high pick and rolls.
    ChumpDumper, the question is, is Donyell Marshall the right guy? If we look to move Rose, then shouldn't we try to bring an inside presence to replace him?
    Marshall played a lot of center in Toronto to keep Bosh at PF. He's quite versatile. I say get the Spurs someone who might be able to get off the bench.

    That said, I don't think Toronto's GM is that stupid. He should be able to do much better.

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    Well, he looks the part of a bigman, he's got that ever important 6'10" height and, oh yes, he can hit the occassional J. But other than that he's not too interesting. Also doesn't offer the Spurs any hope of cutting salary.

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    McDyess off the bench in addition to the Wallaces?
    his D on McDeyss would be fine.

    Ben Wallace could be used for Marshall, all you do is box him out, its not like hes gonna hit a jump shot or something.

    if Rasheed is giving problems? Put Horry on him.

    Rasheed is not exactly Shaq when it comes to offense.

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    Also doesn't offer the Spurs any hope of cutting salary.
    Yeah, it would shoot down alot of your Bull theorys right??

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    Also doesn't offer the Spurs any hope of cutting salary.
    Isn't Marshall in the last year of his contract?

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    But other than that he's not too interesting.
    So a guy averaging a double-double most of the year and actually guards big centers as a matter of course does nothing for you. Malik is better....

    Go penetrate yourself.

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    We're talking Thomas.

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    Oh my bad, I didn't see your question.

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    Wow, a guy getting a lot of minutes on a lottery bound team.

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    a guy that could fill the Spurs's only weakness, rebound, and actually score and not be a dumb off the bench.

    Yeah who needs that .

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    Wow, a guy getting a lot of minutes on a lottery bound team.
    So Troy Murphy sucks. Understood. What were you thinking?

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