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    I don't think the Spurs should be looking at a SF unfortunately. They have 3 potential small forwards overseas in Thomas, Jean-Charles and Bertans. If they look for anything in a trade, they would probably be looking for a C/PF. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Spurs stand pat at the trade deadline and draft a big after the season.
    Those overseas projects are about 3 years away minus bertans who we haven't seen what he will be like till after the 16th from his energy.

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    I don't think the Spurs should be looking at a SF unfortunately. They have 3 potential small forwards overseas in Thomas, Jean-Charles and Bertans. If they look for anything in a trade, they would probably be looking for a C/PF. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the Spurs stand pat at the trade deadline and draft a big after the season.
    Those overseas projects are about 3 years away minus bertans who we haven't seen what he will be like till after the 16th from his energy.

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    If we are going to speculate about a trade, how about we trade with a team that actually traded with us in the past, the Milwaukee Bucks. The Bucks are basically done this year and are look forward to next year so I think there are good pieces that we can trade for. The trade that I suggest the Spurs do is:

    John Henson and Giannis Antetokounmpo
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    Matt Bonner and Nando De Colo

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l58xwrf


    Why the Bucks would do this trade?

    The main reason why the Bucks would do this trade is for the expiring contracts. Both Matt Bonner and Nando De Colo have one year left and together have almost 5.5 million that are coming of the books. With both of their contracts and other expiring contracts coming off the books, the Bucks can spend over 20 million on free agents this off season. Add that with the deep draft, in which they will most likely get a lottery pick, they can get a pretty good team for the 2014-15 season. As a team that is in rebuilding mode, this should be pretty attractive.

    Why the Spurs would do this trade?

    This is the best trade I could think of for the Spurs. Trading two players who are at the end of the bench now, for some youth and athleticism is the best addition by subtraction scenario I can think of. This isn't factoring in the fact that John Henson is a center who can protect the rim when Tim Duncan is taking a breather. Or the fact that Giannis is a 6’9 forward who can potentially guard both guards and forwards, giving the Spurs the back up forward that the fans have been asking for.

    With the injury to John Henson, I think this is the best time to pull the trigger. With the All Star break coming up, Henson can have time to heal and Giannis time to learn the system. Also with the depleted bench that we have right now, they can have plenty of playing time before everyone comes back healthy.
    this has to be the worst post of the thread, easily

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    Those overseas projects are about 3 years away minus bertans who we haven't seen what he will be like till after the 16th from his energy.
    I was originally thinking that as well until I looked at the dates of Bertans' injury along with the draft and signing of Marco and Ayers. The Spurs were hurting for bigs and also needed a backup SF. They signed Marco and Ayers on June 11th. Marco, I believe was meant to be Ginobili/Green insurance at the 2. Not the 3. I expected the Spurs to bring over Bertans to address the SF backup and play some spot minutes at the 4 in small ball sets. After the signing, just 11 days later, Bertans tears his ACL thus affecting the Spurs' draft choices. They drafted two SF's in Thomas and Jean-Charles just in case the injury to Bertans affects his performance. The Spurs' also have a plethora of guards with useful talents, however, Ayers/Baynes isn't panning out particularly well for the Spurs. The Splitter injuries only compound this issue. With young potential SF's in the pipeline overseas regardless of Bertans performance after injury, I don't believe that the Spurs would pull a Khan and continue drafting SF's, let alone trade for one. This is why if there is a trade, I expect it to be for a big. If there isn't a trade, I expect a big to be drafted. The Spurs also like to look at things long term after all and that led me to this assumption.

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    Yeah right dude ^ the bucks would laugh.
    Wow. Just wow. The Bucks wouldn't trade Giannis for Kawhi straight up.
    this has to be the worst post of the thread, easily
    While we're at it, might as well trade Ayers for Aldridge.

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    Assets that have to be on the block : Mills, Beli, Bonner, Tiago and all the end of the bench scrubs/stashed scrubs... If the big 3 is sticking together another year we can't afford to have defensive liabilities around them...

    Targets : first round picks, good defenders for guards, low post threats for big...


    Mills + Beli + first for MKG : imo this is a great time to buy low on MKG, Charlotte want more 3 pt shooting, we can provide that as well as anyone.


    Tiago for Nash (we're offering cap relief don't get me wrong) + Kaman (still a great low post scorer) + top 5 protected first

    Stopped reading here..

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    Assets that have to be on the block : Mills, Beli, Bonner, Tiago and all the end of the bench scrubs/stashed scrubs... If the big 3 is sticking together another year we can't afford to have defensive liabilities around them...

    Targets : first round picks, good defenders for guards, low post threats for big...


    Mills + Beli + first for MKG : imo this is a great time to buy low on MKG, Charlotte want more 3 pt shooting, we can provide that as well as anyone.


    Tiago for Nash (we're offering cap relief don't get me wrong) + Kaman (still a great low post scorer) + top 5 protected first


    Do both even...

    TD Kaman
    Diaw MKG
    Kawhi MKG
    Green Manu
    TP Cojo
    + lottery pick to get more athletic this summer, Aaron Gordon would be the perfect pick for the Spurs, athletic freak with decent bbIQ who knows how to play within a system...
    Ignoring the fact that trading Splitter isn't on the table, there are two problems with your second idea. Splitter is owed only $500k less than Nash next season. That doesn't save them much next year and takes up a lot of room after that. The Lakers don't do that trade for the finances. Second, the Lakers can't trade a pick outside of draft day for the foreseeable future. They have to settle their ledger with Orlando first.

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    If a big trade happens it has to be with a team or teams that have been shopping for a while. What about something like this?
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lzsqypl
    Philly would get picks from both the Spurs and Charlotte.

    Everyone wins in this too:
    -Philly gets picks
    -Charlotte would be able to get to the second round of the playoffs (which has never happened) A great starting line up for them
    +Walker
    +Henderson
    +MKG
    +Young
    +Jefferson
    -The Spurs get Turner who certainly would need some work but he will work out well and McRoberts to replace Ayers. Plus we would only have to get rid of our scraps.

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    To answer Chinook :

    Yeah the first point is very good, the second objection can be solved by sending them our own first, and sending Charlotte a future pick or a stashed scrub.

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    If a big trade happens it has to be with a team or teams that have been shopping for a while. What about something like this?
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lzsqypl
    Philly would get picks from both the Spurs and Charlotte.

    Everyone wins in this too:
    -Philly gets picks
    -Charlotte would be able to get to the second round of the playoffs (which has never happened) A great starting line up for them
    +Walker
    +Henderson
    +MKG
    +Young
    +Jefferson
    -The Spurs get Turner who certainly would need some work but he will work out well and McRoberts to replace Ayers. Plus we would only have to get rid of our scraps.
    The trade isn't half-bad. Just switch out Young for Turner, as Evan is the one Charlotte wants and he isn't a fit in SA, and give Charlotte back McRoberts. If the Bobcats have to send out a player, just send Taylor out. Or send him to Philly, as two firsts might not be enough for Turner and Young.

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    I was originally thinking that as well until I looked at the dates of Bertans' injury along with the draft and signing of Marco and Ayers. The Spurs were hurting for bigs and also needed a backup SF. They signed Marco and Ayers on June 11th. Marco, I believe was meant to be Ginobili/Green insurance at the 2. Not the 3. I expected the Spurs to bring over Bertans to address the SF backup and play some spot minutes at the 4 in small ball sets. After the signing, just 11 days later, Bertans tears his ACL thus affecting the Spurs' draft choices. They drafted two SF's in Thomas and Jean-Charles just in case the injury to Bertans affects his performance. The Spurs' also have a plethora of guards with useful talents, however, Ayers/Baynes isn't panning out particularly well for the Spurs. The Splitter injuries only compound this issue. With young potential SF's in the pipeline overseas regardless of Bertans performance after injury, I don't believe that the Spurs would pull a Khan and continue drafting SF's, let alone trade for one. This is why if there is a trade, I expect it to be for a big. If there isn't a trade, I expect a big to be drafted. The Spurs also like to look at things long term after all and that led me to this assumption.
    I would agree but for a few years the spurs tried to draft undersized combo guards. Dont know what the buy out is for bertans or for jean charles. I can see hanga coming over, but again a buyout would be necessary. Just don't see that kind of move.

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    The trade isn't half-bad. Just switch out Young for Turner, as Evan is the one Charlotte wants and he isn't a fit in SA, and give Charlotte back McRoberts. If the Bobcats have to send out a player, just send Taylor out. Or send him to Philly, as two firsts might not be enough for Turner and Young.
    Can you show an example? This trade would be perfect but its far to complex
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=movc6a3

    EDIT: for the record those looking for a youth moment while still winning this is it.

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    Can you show an example? This trade would be perfect but its far to complex
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=movc6a3

    EDIT: for the record those looking for a youth moment while still winning this is it.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l4qsda6

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    Armed with trade exceptions, OKC has been active in search for a shooter to fortify them for le run, league sources tell Yahoo.


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    Next Thursday couldn't get here soon enough. I just want to know if the Spurs are gonna make any moves or not and also it will stop some of the terrible trade scenarios in here.

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    Wouldn't it be a if OKC traded for Neal?

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    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
    Armed with trade exceptions, OKC has been active in search for a shooter to fortify them for le run, league sources tell Yahoo.

    Beli for Thabo tbh..

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    Next Thursday couldn't get here soon enough. I just want to know if the Spurs are gonna make any moves or not and also it will stop some of the terrible trade scenarios in here.
    True, then we can move on to the waiver deadline.

    It will be interesting to see if anything happens this weekend, teams finally have a break to look over their rosters and make some decisions without having to gameplan for the next game.

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    Beli for Thabo tbh..
    Haven't paid much attention to Thabo's play this year outside games against the Spurs. Can he still guard 1s and 2s? If so I'd consider it.

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    OKC getting a shooter would be scary, their lack of shooting is probably their only flaw, tbh(other than Westbrook, potentially)..

    Spurs may not have assets to make a move, but we better hear that they at least genuinely tried to make a move, tbh..

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    Beli for Thabo tbh..
    I honestly was just thinking of that trade, lol... Durant said he wanted Beli on the Thunder and Thabo has recently shown up in trade rumors. But I don't know how I would feel if that trade went through.
    Last edited by ace3g; 02-13-2014 at 05:37 PM.

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    I have no doubt in my mind that OKC would do that trade in a minute. Doubt the Spurs would. They need scoring with Manu's uncertainty.

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    Beli for Thabo tbh..
    Tough one. Who gets the toughest perimeter defensive assignment if Thabo is gone? Brooks like to conserve Durant's energy on the defensive end so Thabo is used as the defensive workhorse. The idea of Beli's defense on the perimeter is frightening but the frontcourt is athletic enough to hide some of his defensive deficiencies. Again, tough one.

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    I wouldn't do that deal. Thabo is a three like Green is. If Beli goes, it needs to be for a combo-forward.

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