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Ummm, thats a horrible plan. James Singleton? Really? Thats almost depressing. What about our MLE money? And why hold onto an expensive expiring contract (Barry) when you could use him to leverage a guy like Nocioni away?
Given some of the names being tossed around here, we might want to all take a good look at this article. Although not perfect, it does have some good points to consider:
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2116
As far as my perfect offseason, we need to consider the signed roster next season :
Bigs - Duncan, Horry, Elson, Oberto, Butler
Have: 5, 1 Superstar (Duncan), 2 reliable (Elson, Oberto), 1 old as dirt (Horry), 1 journeyman who hasn't broken out yet (Butler)
Need: 6, 4 reliable or better
Wings - Manu, Bowen, Finley, Barry, White
Have: 5, 1 Star (Manu), 1 Reliable (Finley), 2 Old as Dirt (Bruce, Barry), 1 Journeyman who hasn't broken out yet (White)
Need: 6, 4 reliable or better
PGs - Tony, Beno
Have: 2 1 Star (Tony), 1 Crap who might get it together for another team(Beno)
Need: 3, At least 2 reliable or better
Draft/Signing/Trade:
Sign and trade Udrih for James Singleton (Clippers) on an extended contract. Singleton is currently earning $770610 in 07-08 on a team option. Do a sign and Trade of Udrih (earning 1,747,096 in 07-08). To make this work, Singleton gets a raise to $1.3 million, with a 2nd year as a team option, with no percentage increase.
+1 Wing, -1 PG
Trade Scola and #28 for #17 (Nets) and draft McRoberts
+1 Big
Re-Sign Jaques Vaughn (he was acceptable this year)
+1 PG
Pick #33 Draft Koponen/Pruitt/Dowdell (Whoever is available, in that order)
+1 PG/SG
Pick #58 Draft best available Euro Project/Sun Yue. NOTE we will not have roster space for this player, unless we make a 2 for 1 trade. He will have to stay in Europe or move to europe or we will lose his rights. The alternative is to trade this pick...
Projected Roster
Bigs - Duncan, Elson, Oberto, Horry, Butler, McRoberts
Wings - Manu, Finley, Bowen, Barry, White, Singleton
PGs - Parker, Vaughn, Koponen (by choice)
Ummm, thats a horrible plan. James Singleton? Really? Thats almost depressing. What about our MLE money? And why hold onto an expensive expiring contract (Barry) when you could use him to leverage a guy like Nocioni away?
I'm not big on James Singleton, but for one year, and instead of Beno Udrih, it's not that bad.
I'd like the Spurs to somehow take a gander at Alonzo Mourning and Antonio McDyess. They both have opt-out provisions, I believe, but there are restrictions to talking to them. Mourning isn't as important now that Oberto has turned it on, but I'd freaking love to have McDyess. Him alone would make my off-season.
Resolving the Scola sutation is key. My feeling is we'll have +1 Argentinian on the squad, either him or Nocioni, although trading up in the draft would be fine. I simply don't see who'd be available in the late teens who'd be that attractive to burn him up, though.
Singleton is a PF and undersized at at that. I don't see how he plays into our plans or needs.
I was thinking about Zo the other day. I would love to grab him up. But McDyess would probably be the better pickup if we could only get one. I'm dreaming of some of our frontcourt rotations next season:
Duncan/McDyess/Horry
Oberto/Butler/Elson
And then if we grab Nocioni we could have another "PF" to boot.
McDyess would be incredible. He's still a great bench player, but at the same time it's always good to have that insatiably hungry guy on the squad who wants a championship more than anything.
I'll call it now: we get McDyess and Nocioni.
We don't lose a game after the All-Star break.
I think two things have muddied the waters a bit in the past couple months....
1. Horry saying he'll be back for one more. I think this spells disaster for Matt Bonner, who likely won't be re-signed because of lack of roster space and who didn't enhance his market value because of lack of on-court time. But it also puts the Scola situation in flux, because the Spurs are clearly running short of roster spots and if they truly want to bring him over this upcoming year, every spot counts...
2. Oberto's playoff run. He seemed to really jell with the starters and the Spurs are in love with his at ude and BBIQ. Problem is, alot of other teams would value those qualities as well, and for a compe ive price. If Oberto opts out, it seems readily apparent that the Spurs SHOULD go for Scola as the replacement, but they might just throw their lot in with Oberto and try to deal Scola.
Bottom Line: Alot of what the Spurs do, both with the decision to sign Scola and the decision of who to draft will depend alot on those two players.
I can definitely see McDyess opting out this summer. Too much uncertainty in Detroit. The problem is, will coming off a championship make it harder to recruit former star free agents (of course, McDyess did join the Pistons after their last le)? You don't become an elite player in this league without some kind of ego. Would you rather be known as the guy who took a team to the next level versus someone who just joined the champs? Then again, perhaps earlier this season there was definitely the perception that the Spurs were starting to fade from being a serious contender.
Damn...imagine this squad next season....
Parker/Papaloukas/Vaughn
Ginobili/Finley/White
Nocioni/Bowen/Dudley
Duncan/McDyess/Horry
Oberto/Butler/Elson
(Plus we get the rights to Rudy Fernandez and Sun Yue)
An offseason like this is not unreasonable and yet it shores up all of our current needs and stores some away for the future. Papaloukas is far advanced from Beno's abilities and Nocioni gives us that long, strong tough defender that can also play the small ball 4. Dudley is an added bonus as he will fit perfectly playing Spurs ball and could find a similar niche to Nocioni. McDyess shores up the front line and gives them that "hungry" guy to drive us forward (as you said). This team would be absolutely dynamic and would have a good shot at repeating.
...plus in a year whenever Bowen and Finley leave you have Rudy Fernandez waiting to step in. Not to mention Mahinmi.
1. Horry does 'muck' things up a little, since we all thought he was basically retiring. (Funny we made that decision for him.) Golden State might have extended his career by a season. I agree that Bonner could be on the outs.
Ely is gone, so there's at least one spot. I feel they'll try hard to package up two-for-one and finally say goodbye to Barry and Udrih.
2. I don't see any way Oberto goes elsewhere, even for a bit more money, unless a team is crazy enough to throw way too much money at him for too many years. But I don't see him voluntarily opting out - this situation is perfect for him, one of his buddies is here, and he has the starting spot on a smart, experienced, championship team.
... So we're down to essentially one spot. Three draft picks... I've said for a while that I saw two new rookies coming in, but that's not abundantly clear anymore. The Spurs do need to make a couple moves to compete better against Dallas and get more flexible and young, but it's not clear what yet.
First things first, hope Oberto doesn't opt out.
I like Oberto and all, but if he does opt out to sign elsewhere (like Body, I think he stays), at least the Spurs have a backup plan in Scola.
Maybe he opts out to get a new contract while his value is high. Frankly he wouldn't be getting good advice if someone told him not to. More $ committed to today for the current team makes it less likely they will be willing to spend $ on new acquisitions.
I can see Chicago interested in Oberto. Not sure who else (who he'd return interest).
I believe Memphis had some interest in him. I'm not sure if he knows Gasol...but that might be intriguing to him if he does. Of course, Memphis is NOT San Antonio. And the guy is getting a good rep around SA as a fan favorite. Why ruin it? Besides, with Manu and maybe Scola around town San Antonio just seems too desirable.
Here's my point in bringing up the recent developments....
I'm not so much concerned about filling out the 15-man roster as I am about who will get the opportunity to get on the court...because both Horry and Oberto are "rotation" roster guys. That leaves me wondering about Jackie Butler's opportunity to take some minutes in his second year. Then add the possibility of bringing in Luis Scola, who I seriously doubt will be okay with riding the pine, and I don't see how it all meshes together....even with Bonner and Ely being let go, who dresses out and who loses minutes?
Side note: I also see this occuring with White again as Barry, Bowen, Finley, and Manu should all be back.
Bottom Line: It'll be interesting to see how the Spurs handle this roster crunch, and more importantly how they handle the rotation crunch.
Personally, I'd like to see Butler get the chance to overtake Elson on the depth chart...
Correction: Jerry West had interest in him, and he's on the outs in Memphis. But, I'm sure there will be interest in him regardless.
Phoenix would be a nice fit for him. The Suns weaken the Spurs with such a move. The window for them with Nash is closing. One would think that the fans in the desert would be a little more skeptical these days about their postseason moves and looking for a little more deftness instead of just another athlete to run along with Nash and crew.
On the other hand, you'd have the example of Finley to look at. He joined the team and came off the bench behind another premier player until the team decided that they'd work better with Manu off the bench and Finley starting.
If I'm a great or good veteran I'd like that opportunity with a team that has no preconceived notions except what's the best way to win a championship.
San Antonio or Europe really seem to be the best fits, though I agree that Chicago could be a probable destination...especially if Chapu is re-signed.
As unathletic as Oberto is, and as minescule as their rotation is, I doubt he goes there.
Someone mentioned Antonio McDyess leaving Detriot, and the more I thought about it, the more I thought of them as a destination for Oberto or even Scola. Granted, I would hate to make a team as good as Detriot stronger, but if the Spurs could get a guy like Amir Johnson back in the trade, I think it might be well worth it...
I had a dream of our 2007-2008 San Antonio Spurs:
TP,Green, Vaughn
Manu,Finley,Belinelli
Bowen,Nocioni, White
TD,Horry,Mahinmi
Oberto,Elson,Butler
i agree with darkwaters
this scenario could be good
28: Fernandez or Belinelli
33: Byars or Dudley or Almond or Fazekas or Dowdell or Tucker
58: DJ Strawberry (if we don't take Dudley, Byars, Almond, or Tucker) or Yue or Random as of yet unnamed Euro
a big and a wing player seems to be a good option
I may prove to be quite wrong, but I highly doubt that we bring Mahinmi over next season. There's little evidence that he's even ready for the SJax plan yet.
Who else thinks James White is next year's Stephen Jackson?
The problem with that is that those are all guys who would likely need to be on the roster next year, unless we just cut the second round picks - in which case they are wasted..
I don't think there's a chance will draft three new players for next season's roster. They'll either package 1 or 2 of them in a trade for a player or to move up and/or use one on a draft and stash player.
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