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I must be speaking out of turn then and thinking of some other team.
PHAT - I can't see Chicago wanting any part of Ron Artest again.
I must be speaking out of turn then and thinking of some other team.
I don't care what you think!
No, seriously though, I think nothing is set in stone to this point and haven't seen any news on Fernandez to indicate that a certain team has fallen in love with him. My point is that a guy with buyout and injury concerns is likely to fall on draft day. While it would be wierd (and nice!) to see him slip to #28, I wouldn't be shocked.
See what happens when radical trades are proposed....
That was just me trying to prove some...thing...err..yeah
It'd be awesome to get Fernandez. Who knows? Especially if the buyout is a big concern. There are some canny teams right in front of the Spurs that might not pass on him, though, but stranger things have happened.
I don't think the Nocioni trade is "radical" per se. I think it is a legit possibility.
Getting Nocioni is far more likely than some are admitting. Not 100%, but much closer to that than impossible.
I have been a fan of Rudy for years. I want him on the Spurs with all of my heart.
Hope you get him, man.
Mr. Body,
Are you a Bulls fan? Why do you spend so much time on their boards?
I like the team, but mostly to talk about Scola.
Yeah I was speaking about my specific trade proposal with the "radical" claim. I understand that it's a possibility, but again I haven't seen any articles or quotes indicating a common interest between the two parties for the players that would be involved.
Both Chicago and especially San Antonio are quiet teams. One reason why they're doing so well- we'll have to see what happens. We do have cir stantial quotes, such as one from Nocioni where he's been told he could get moved this summer and that he'd love to have barbeques with his friends in San Antonio.
What's the answer to my question about Barry? If he's traded in the off-season, can he be included in a package during the season? What about after season-start...does it matter?
Bruno...need your CBA expertise!
Yes, he can be traded in a package for someone else. It's after either a 3 or a 6 month wait. In any case, he could be traded before the deadline.
Andrés Nocioni must be a Spur!
You think we will spend the MLE money?
06/07 committed salary : 68,828,356
07/08 committed salary : 66,063,221
08/09 committed salary : 47,024,595 (Duncan (player option), Parker, Manu, Udrih (team option), Butler (team option))
We will be sitting on the edge of lux tax space next year. - this is a given. The year after, we will be below the salary cap, based on currently signed players.
06/07 Salary cap :53,135,000 Luxury tax: 65,420,000
07/08 estimated Salary cap :55,000,000 estimated Luxury tax: 68,000,000
08/09 estimated Salary cap :58,000,000 estimated Luxury tax: 71,000,000
A maximum contract in 08/09 is roughly $12,500,000. The team can offer a contract above the MLE if they have the space below the salary cap (or in sign and trade scenarios)... not the lux tax level. If the Spurs want to make a big FA play before 08/09, they can't have any more salary commitments in 08/09. Including this years 1st round pick, they will be limited to a roughly $10,000,000 offer. Do you think they are going to get anybody worthwhile eg. Nocioni to commit to a ONE year deal???
You can either try and reload this offseason, which isn't particularly attractive, given our salary cap limitations, or go for summer 2008. if you go summer 2k8, Singleton is a poor man's Nocioni - particularly look at his rebound rates...
Then in 2k8 summer
Duncan, Manu, Parker, Butler (assuming he pans out), 2007 1st round pick (McRoberts), 2007 #33 on a multi-year contract with team options (koponen) -
total ~ 47,000,000 note that 2007 1st rounder and #33 will roughly total Udrih's cap commitment - 1st round pay scales jump sharply in the 3ed and 4th years)
$11,000,000 FA offer
total ~ 58,000,000
The 2008 NBA Free Agent Class (from hoopsworld, incomplete, players we might make a play for)
Player Option Year
Al Jefferson team '08
Emeka Okafor team '08
Nenad Krstic team '08
Andre Iguodala team '08
Gilbert Arenas player '08
Andris Biedrins team '08
Ben Gordon team '08
Richard Hamilton player '08
Jason Kidd player '08
Robert Swift team '08
Jermaine O'Neal player '08
Ron Artest player '08
Josh Childress team '08
Josh Smith team '08
Corey Maggette player '08
Shawn Marion player '08
Kevin Martin team '08
Dwight Howard team '08
Elton Brand player '08
Luol Deng team '08
Kevin Garnett team '08
6 players under contract, including 4 core guys - need to sign a minimum of 6 more players (likely 9), ~11,000,000 in pre-luxury tax space left...
Bird Rights - Oberto, Finley, Bowen, Barry, Horry
Early Bird Rights - Vaughn, Elson, White (he hasn't been with us long enough to have full bird rights), Singleton
Post Luxury tax space (ie. exceptions):
MLE
Bi Annual Exception (LLE)
2008 1st round pick (sign him after signing free agents), Rookie exception
Mahnimi (2005 1st round pick, rookie exception).
Team looks like this :
Bigs : Duncan, McRoberts, Mahnimi, Butler, Elson or Oberto (for the minimum)
Wings: Manu, White (early bird rights), Finley (resigned, vet minimum?),
PG's: Parker, Koponen, Vaugh (resigned, vet minimum?)
Big FA signing at Big or Wing
2008 1st round pick
+2 more players (Javtokas?, Singleton?, whomever...)
In summary, my way keeps us competing for the 07/08 championship, and sets up the future. Chucking a bunch of MLE money in there will restrict any signings in 2008 to MLE level contracts roughly... Which won't bring in the big fish!
a lot of people talk about pruitt here and he will have a workout with the team but i didn't find anything on him on the net ( videos- highlights with USC ... )
i just wanna some highlights of him if it's possible to see his tyle of play .............
Theres not much on him out there as far as I can tell. This video has a little bit of action at the very end of it however (not much to judge him by though, but its all I could find):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2PnIbBo7Eg
I want everyone to read this article at Draft Express about eight types of 'can't miss' draftees who fail to make it in the NBA.
You'll see a lot of the names we've kicking around here as possible draftees who are compared to past 'busts'. Pretty funny and pretty disturbing as well.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2116
Anyone notice that nbadraft.net has Ramon Sessions going 29th overall in this years draft and on draftexpress.com they have him going in the 2nd round of NEXT years draft???
All of your FA's in 08 are pipe dreams, with the exception of Robert Swift & I dont even know why he is listed in that group. Possibly Brand could opt out, but that too is a long shot. If we can pick up Nocioni for the MLE or better yet S&T Barry & Beno along with Scola for him this summer, it is a no brainer. Your plan sounds like what the Lakers had in mind, wanting to wait until Yao Ming & all the other big time players were SUPPOSED to be FA's, how did that work out for them?
barry + beno + scola? for nacioni seems to much to give up imo
delfino is a fkn scrub and got 2 picks for him.....
barru + beno + scola is worth more even if you trade them individually
Daequan Cook will workout with Spurs
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sport...s_workout.html
The full workout list is in the first post.Except that the 6-foot-5 Cook has workouts scheduled for Utah, Golden State, San Antonio and Miami next week. He then said the obvious - that he was staying in the draft.
And stop hijacking this thread with some random (and useless) fantasy offseason scenario.
Updated mock draft on DX has us taking Belinelli with our 33 pick and Gray with the 28 still.
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