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    Please no Ersan. No more euros for the moment.

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    DPG spitting truth tbh. OKC would get worse trading Lamb/Jackson for Chandler/Miller (at least in a matchup with the Spurs). Bucks would also want more than the Spurs' spare parts for Ilyasova, and even then I don't think he'd make the Spurs much better.

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    Lamb has played very well and Reggie Jackson is so much better than Miller. I would absolutely love if OKC did that trade. Reggie is a huge part of what they do and Lamb is contributing. The lift they may get from Wilson over Lamb would be negated IMO by the gap between Reggie/Miller.
    I meant no one could come close to that offer, not that OKC would be too good to beat after making that trade.

    Also. Ilyasova would probably start, as his range and scoring ability would really help the SL. Also, he's signed reasonably for the next few years, allowing the team to focus on other positions for 2015.

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    I meant no one could come close to that offer, not that OKC would be too good to beat after making that trade.

    Also. Ilyasova would probably start, as his range and scoring ability would really help the SL. Also, he's signed reasonably for the next few years, allowing the team to focus on other positions for 2015.
    So we shuffle Tiago to the bench?

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    Not sure this is such a great idea as Jim Boylen is responsible for Jeff Ayers.
    He also needs to be reminded we have kawhi Leonard on the team.

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    I meant no one could come close to that offer, not that OKC would be too good to beat after making that trade.

    Also. Ilyasova would probably start, as his range and scoring ability would really help the SL. Also, he's signed reasonably for the next few years, allowing the team to focus on other positions for 2015.
    Oh, I see - makes sense. I mean, I guess Ersan would start, but Boris starting is so good and Tiago is too impactful not to play significant minutes.

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    As well as Boris has played and with how much he plays winning basketball, I can't envision him losing minutes. I also can't imagine what it would do to his newfound confidence if he did.

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    As well as Boris has played and with how much he plays winning basketball, I can't envision him losing minutes. I also can't imagine what it would do to his newfound confidence if he did.
    Baynes and Ayres average about 22 a game. Just feed ilyasova those minutes

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    So we shuffle Tiago to the bench?
    I think so, as well as giving Diaw minutes at the three.

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    As well as Boris has played and with how much he plays winning basketball, I can't envision him losing minutes. I also can't imagine what it would do to his newfound confidence if he did.
    I think there's plenty of room for all four bigs in the regular season, and Diaw or Ilyasova can play a little SF if need be. But even if Ersan doesn't play big minutes this year, he's great Diaw insurance. He's young and is a diverse scorer and strong rebounder. If you can get him for cheap, you do it. If anything, he'll be a great flipping candidate for the Spurs.

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    Baynes and Ayres average about 22 a game. Just feed ilyasova those minutes
    That's because there have been a lot of injuries. Assuming guys get healthy (big if), I don't see the minutes. Especially for someone who can't defend. To me, I think Boris's great defense + more limited ability to stretch the floor outweighs Ersan's ability to space the floor + limited defense.

    Again, if all other deals fail and he can be had for cheap (Bonner/Ayres/DeColo/Baynes types) absolutely. But I really hope a wing is the priority or a more defensive minded big.

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    I think so, as well as giving Diaw minutes at the three.
    Which is not a total loss seeing as how splitter averages just a little above 20 minutes a game. I like the small ball lineup too with diaw alternating between the 3 and 4.

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    So we shuffle Tiago to the bench?
    Both Diaw and Splitter would come off the bench, apparently. That would be best. Allowing for Mills/Cojo-Beli-Manu to fill the other three spots.

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    That's crazy well balanced. Even if Diaw starts, having Ilyasova with Splitter brings back the crazy PnR and shooting bench of two years ago.

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    If the Spurs can get Middleton & Ilyasova together, that would be a decent mix of players to replace Bonner + De Colo + Baynes.

    But that doesn't help the system because they already have Diaw. And doesn't address the need for a defensive minded backup for Kawhi (neither Ilyasova or Middleton are).

    A more ideal trade is one for Marvin Williams by giving up Bonner + De Colo. (Unless they think they can get him via a waiver buyout). Williams would fit the system as a corner 3 specialist and small ball PF who can defend post players and backup Kawhi.

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    Ilyasova would be an incredible get. Unfortunately, we have literally nothing realistic to offer for him.
    Are you kidding me, they are in full tank mode, we have a lot will help them achieve their goals

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    Considering what our assets are, is it too late to maybe buyout an asset overseas like hanga?

    He just signed a 4 year deal but not sure what the particulars are and buyout clause. Probably not ready for prime time but trial by fire with limited minutes to spell kawhi.

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    Neal? He's been replaced twice over with Mills and Belinelli.
    Wouldn't you rather have Neal than Nando right now?

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    The question behind the need to acquire a good PF (Ilyasova or another player) is the Duncan/Splitter pairing:
    How much should they been paired when there isn't a matchup issue?
    When they can't be paired because of the matchup, can the newly acquired PF play or should Spurs go with Kawhi at PF?

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    The question behind the need to acquire a good PF (Ilyasova or another player) is the Duncan/Splitter pairing:
    How much should they been paired when there isn't a matchup issue?
    When they can't be paired because of the matchup, can the newly acquired PF play or should Spurs go with Kawhi at PF?
    Given the names that have been thrown out there I'd play Ilyasova at the PF, his length can help disrupt a lot of long jump shooters and he's a decent rebounder, he can also play the 5 if we want to run Kawhi out there at the 4.. leads to a lot of mixed lineups.. Chandler gives you more athletic flexability... I'd like Kawhi to stay at the 3 tho..

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    The question behind the need to acquire a good PF (Ilyasova or another player) is the Duncan/Splitter pairing:
    How much should they been paired when there isn't a matchup issue?
    When they can't be paired because of the matchup, can the newly acquired PF play or should Spurs go with Kawhi at PF?
    Even if the opposing team goes small, I think Ilyasova can still play at PF. Just let Leonard guard Durant or James and let Ersan guard a shooter. He's not great on defense, but he's not horrible, and his and Leonard's combined rebounding would destroy most small-ball forward combos. Remember, he has experience guarding the opposing team's worst forward when he lined up next to Mbah a Moute.

    Whether Splitter, Diaw or a PF like Ilyasova starts next to Duncan depends on Tim's and Kawhi's shooting. Ilyasova would be a great way to spread the floor while keeping some inside scoring. But if everyone can get back to last year's production, Tiago is still the best option next to Tim normally.

    Either way, I'd take Ilyasova as an upgrade to Bonner and Ayres if he can be had cheaply.

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    If Wilson Chandler is available, Spurs have to go after him; he would add a lot of versatility to the roster. I'd prefer a big SF that can play some small ball PF over a mobile true PF.

    These are some of the plays Denver runs when they have Chandler at small ball PF: http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/19/42...ilson-chandler

    He would be another guy to throw at LeBron/Durant.

    One helpful aspect in this situation is that Denver has SF depth (Miller and Hamilton); and they could use some PG depth (something Spurs have an excess of).

    Big question, would Chandler be ok with not starting?

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    I would like to acquire quincy miller form the nuggets. a 6'9" SF. he has great length. and would be a great backup small forward. getting randolph and fournier would be nice too. I now they aren't the big names we want. but they could be had for what we have to offer. they bring youth, length, and athleticism. Miller and Fournier are both very good shooters too. and Randolph gives us a very good long athletic PF.


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    Just for s and giggles http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mhclx3y

    I laughed pretty hard when I saw that adding Bonner, Ayres and Neal to the 76ers lead to them losing 5 more games.

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    Wouldn't you rather have Neal than Nando right now?
    No. Neal would be buried on the bench behind Mills, Belinelli, and Cojo.

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