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    No. I was talking about the roster rank WITH those players.

    With those players

    Spain
    Greece
    Lithuania
    Slovenia
    Croatia

    They are all better teams regardless. Serbia also has a better roster but they are too young and so France would beat them I think.
    Apart from Spain, i think a full French team can beat all those teams.

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    What part of PARKER SAID do you not understand? That isn't Ludden making a guess. That is Ludden relaying what Parker said.
    Is it a direct quote ? No.

    And at trying to say Ludden doesn't know what he's talking about. Ludden is the best source for Spurs news in the history of the internets.
    Ludden was Spurs' puppet. And it wasn't Spurs related but France NT related. I take the article coming from the official NT website that has been published before Parker make tries with his splint.

    How does that excuse the NT for trying to force Parker to play with a broken finger?
    Nice to see you give up on part of your BS with the diagnostic part. Step by step.
    Next step is you stopping with that NT force Parker to play with a broken finger BS...


    @ Parker wanted to play and the NT gave him the green light when Parker said the exact opposite.
    @ timvppp handpicking his sources and going with the questionable ones.

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    Is it a direct quote ? No.
    Do you have a link to Parker denying something Ludden wrote about him? I have a link of Parker denying what the French media wrote about him.

    Game over.

    Ludden was Spurs' puppet. And it wasn't Spurs related but France NT related. I take the article coming from the official NT website that has been published before Parker make tries with his splint.
    @ it not being Spurs related. What part of "Parker said" do you not understand? Seriously. You think Parker didn't say that and Ludden made it up?

    If so, I'm going to have to make sure kace hasn't stolen your password. The Bruno I know doesn't spout that type of BS.

    I miss Johnny Ludden...
    Funny how that sentiment changes when a Ludden article is found that doesn't jive with the French media ... that has been called a liar by its star player.

    "It was a no-brainer," Parker said. "Even if I tried to play, I couldn't do nothing. I can't pass. I can't shoot. I can't dribble.

    "It's not that I don't want to play. I can't play."
    I'm sure Ludden made up those quotes, too.

    Nice to see you give up on part of your BS with the diagnostic part. Step by step.
    Next step is you stopping with that NT force Parker to play with a broken finger BS...
    WTF? BS with the diagnostic part?

    Tony Parker is hurt :

    Tony Parker has sprained his finger at the end of the game. We don't know if he will be able to play against Argentina (first game of th WC).

    "That's the bad news of the evening. Tony has sprained his right hand middle finger while grabbing a jersey. He is hurt. For the moment there is no idea on how long will he be out. For the medical staff, there should be no fracture.
    Oops. Apology accepted.


    @ timvppp handpicking his sources and going with the questionable ones.
    Handpicking my sources? I'm going with Parker. You are going with sources that have been called liars by Parker.

    I really hope kace stole this cats password . . .

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    This is the only place in the entire world that the French refuse to surrender...

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    So Ludden is a Spurs puppet who caters to their needs, but the French media is the best and only does straight-forward, non-biased journalism?

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    Do you have a link to Parker denying something Ludden wrote about him? I have a link of Parker denying what the French media wrote about him.

    Game over.
    Do you have a link denying what has been written of French NT official website ?

    No. Game over.


    @ it not being Spurs related. What part of "Parker said" do you not understand? Seriously. You think Parker didn't say that and Ludden made it up?
    You can go back at the thread you linked:
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48636

    Back in 2006, I said Ludden made it up. It was for the exact same quote you're bringing in.

    Funny how that sentiment changes when a Ludden article is found that doesn't jive with the French media ... that has been called a liar by its star player.
    Breaking news: Ludden is less worst than McDonald.


    I'm sure Ludden made up those quotes, too.
    These are direct quotes.


    WTF? BS with the diagnostic part?

    Oops. Apology accepted.
    So you're back at the French doctors sucked, they don't have X-rays eyes...

    back to the ridiculous....


    Handpicking my sources? I'm going with Parker. You are going with sources that have been called liars by Parker.

    You went with Ludden.
    French NT website isn't the same thing as "L'Equipe".

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    If Ludden is a Spurs puppet, why is he working for Yahoo sports now?

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    If Ludden is a Spurs puppet, why is he working for Yahoo sports now?
    Ludden doesn't work there. He just made that up.

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    Dear Bruno, dear timvp...

    Do you realize that everyone witnesses your childish battle.

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    If Ludden is a Spurs puppet, why is he working for Yahoo sports now?
    Because he was tired of being Spurs' puppet.

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    Dear Bruno, dear timvp...

    Do you realize that everyone witnesses your childish battle.
    Well, it's the dead period on ST (most of the offseason moves are done and games haven't started), so it's the perfect moment for childish battles.

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    Do you have a link denying what has been written of French NT official website ?

    No. Game over.
    I just gave you a link of Parker dismissing what the French press has to say about him. Do you have something similar from Parker?

    Game over.

    Ludden made it up
    *catches breath*

    These are direct quotes.
    Exactly. Does that sound like someone who wanted to play? No. It sounds like someone who was being told to play but couldn't.

    Game over.

    So you're back at the French doctors sucked, they don't have X-rays eyes...

    back to the ridiculous....
    French doctors were wrong that it was a sprain. And even after they admitted it was broken, they still tried to force Parker to play. So even if they had X-ray eyes, that wouldn't have changed anything. They wanted Parker to play with a splint on even though Parker himself didn't want to do that.

    Fact.

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    Just some bad logic in this thread:

    1) Ludden was a Spurs puppet with motives, but the NT website for France has no motives and won't try and make the Spurs sound bad?

    2) TP cannot say " you" to the Spurs, but the Spurs can do it to him?

    3) There is a war or "conflict", but yet the Spurs could do nothing to TP. If the Spurs piss TP off, he "could not re-sign", but if TP says I will not come home, the Spurs will still re-sign him?

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    I'm gonna give you two more material :

    http://www.tp9.net/en/itw.php?id=140

    « I did not have the choice »


    First of all, how do you feel a few hours after announcing your retirement from the world championships ?


    I am ok, I am not about to ponder about this for fifty years. Injuries are part of the game. It is certain that I am not happy to say the world championships are already over for me. I prepared well to play here in Japan. Unfortunately, it is not for me. I try to remain positive while relying on our team. I hope they go a far as possible.




    Were you ready to play despite the injury ?


    Absolutely I wanted to play ! I was willing to take the risk but I am not the only one to decide. This morning we had a conference call for an hour with the trainer, the doctor, Claude Bergeaud (French coach), my agent and the Spurs. We rounded the issue to figure out the best decision for me and my future and we’ve concluded that it was better to throw the towel.




    We could imagine that the Spurs had the final word ?


    Absolutely and I understand this decision. San Antonio is paying me extremely well to play in the NBA and they do not want me to start the season with an injury. We know that the NBA clubs are not so keen on seeing their players with their national teams so when someone is hurt they usually ask for that player to come home immediately for more tests, thus I did not have the choice.




    Is this injury bearable ?


    It is hurting permanently. At practice I could not even hold the ball. Doctors told me I needed to rest for a month.




    What are you doing in the upcoming days ?


    I am going back to San Antonio on Sunday. The Spurs want me to get treated there and if all goes well, I intend to come back to Tokyo to cheer on the French team in the quarter final.




    Are you telling us that the Spurs have limited confidence in the French national team’s doctor ?


    Yes, this is indeed what I am saying but this isn’t new. It always worked like that. Beno Udrih went through the same thing at the Euro. He injured his knee and immediately had to get back to San Antonio.




    Despite this tough situation, we feel that your spirit is high...


    Injuries are common for athletes. I am lucky to be 24 years old and I know there will be many more international games in years to come. What is a bit frustrating is to go through the entire preparation, to give yourself the means to succeed and to finally throw the towel 24 hours before the first game. I am not about to cry about my fate. It is only a broken finger while it could very well be a bad injury to a knee or an ankle.

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    This is the only place in the entire world that the French refuse to surrender...
    For the americans, France has 1 century of existence.
    You know it's an old country and french won many, many wars.
    You know some guys like Louis XIV, Napoléon...

    You should go there for a start
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_monarchs

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    http://www.tp9.net/en/itw.php?id=142

    « I believe in my teammates »

    As you know, my examinations were done on Monday in San Antonio. The results confirmed the first diagnosis made by the French national team doctors. It is a simple fracture without any displacement, thus not requiring any surgery. The Spurs’ medical staff told me that I needed four to six weeks of rest. My finger will be in a protective case until the end of this period. What is certain is that you will see me on the floors in France in October during the Spurs’ European training camp.

    Before coming back tot eh US for treatment, my wish was to come back to Tokyo for the quarter finals. Unfortunately, there is a 90% chance that I will be unable to come as the Spurs would like me to continue my treatment here in the US and to do more test next week. I am trying to find a middle ground with them but I am afraid that I might have to watch the games on television. I should have a definite answer by Monday morning.

    I am currently in San Antonio. I use this time off to rest after a sudden departure from Japan. Of course I have followed each and every game of the French team and like many I was surprised by the loss against Lebanon. I really did not expect this. The most important was done with this second place of the group and the 1/8 of final against Angola will be difficult but nothing impossible. I believe in my teammates. It is now a new compe ion that stars and I confident that we will see a new face to this French team.

    I will be in France on September 4th or 5th. My time will be divided amongst personal appearances for my sponsors and a charity event. I will then return to San Antonio on September 15th

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    I just gave you a link of Parker dismissing what the French press has to say about him. Do you have something similar from Parker?
    You don't have a quote of Parker. it's a quote of Ludden, I said was BS back in 2006.

    *catches breath*

    Exactly. Does that sound like someone who wanted to play? No. It sounds like someone who was being told to play but couldn't.
    Off topic.
    Does the French NT news said that Parker wanted to play after the try he made ? No.
    It said that Parker wanted to made the try.

    French doctors were wrong that it was a sprain. And even after they admitted it was broken, they still tried to force Parker to play. So even if they had X-ray eyes, that wouldn't have changed anything. They wanted Parker to play with a splint on even though Parker himself didn't want to do that.

    Fact.
    Not Fact, just your assumption. You're going even further than Ludden BS.

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    this thread.....

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    Oh come on, TP said he couldn't play with a broken finger AFTER the tries. At first, both the French NT and Parker were willing to try because they desperately wanted him to play in the world championship.
    After the tries, Parker and the NT both agreed to follow the Spurs request to go back to SA.

    How does it matter if one or the other had the idea first? Nobody forced anybody.

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    90 days...

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    spot on... dear this all story is becoming ridiculous

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    the season can not start soon enough.



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    Can someone tell me an easy way to break up quotes
    Is this what you are talking about?

    and at the sane time make stupid comments I can mock you for?
    This can be achieved by following CD for a week.

    Thanks.
    No problem.

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    Apart from Spain, i think a full French team can beat all those teams.
    Can beat them. Not is likely to beat them when it matters.

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    Croatia? slovenia?

    wtf
    They have far better rosters than France does. Look at the roster lists for 2009 Euro championships.

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