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Spin it, MF'er, spin it!
FkLA is upset as () that it took KG 9 seasons to get out of the 1st round (one of the 1st round losses involving Dirk drop kicking him from the top rope head to head). Fret not, not every player can carry a team of no other all stars to a championship. That is reserved for some of the best players ever.
Spin it, MF'er, spin it!
Why is it nowadays necessary to rate someone before their career is finito? Dirk, without question, will be the greatest foreign born player. However, he's not done yet, so there are still more layers to his greatness yet to be exposed. He's going to be top-25 when it's all done if you believe in ranking players. There is no doubt he's a first ballot HoF. Most critics spent his whole career trying to judge him and they crucified him when he couldn't quite make it to the top. Now, they're singing his praise and he is finally vindicated.
WTF? KG was without question the best and most important player of that Celtics team, I've never said otherwise. What Am I spinning?
Spin it, MF'er, spin it!
Having the opinion that KG was "without question" the best player on the 08 Celtics in the first place is re ed enough. Pierce was the one outplaying LeBron in game 7 and getting the best of the Lakers in the Finals w/o their starting center.
But as long as you can find something to satisfy your terrible player x > Dirk shtick, I guess revising history is ok.
lol manu (at any point in his career) > Dirk
If you don't think KG was the best player of that Celtics team you don't know about basketball.
You are probably one of those guys that overrate offense and underrates defense and cryied about the Mavs getting Chandler instead of Jefferson.
lol @ overhyped foreign prospect .......
Winners and losers at the '98 draft
by Dan Shanoff <======= dumb twitter account: http://twitter.com/#!/danshanoff
Posted: Thu June 25, 1998
Winner: Roshown McLeod
Go ahead and criticize the Hawks for taking the Dookie small forward far too early, but give McLeod credit for playing his way into first-round guaranteed money
Loser: Nazr Mohammed
After all the cutaways to a visibly dejected Mohammed in the draft's "green room," you were almost rooting for the guy to get picked. Almost. If Mohammed had dropped into the second round, it would have sent a strong message to other underclassmen thinking about jumping to the NBA.
Winner: No. 1 pick Michael Olowokandi
The affable "Kandi Man" can hungrily eye endorsement deals. Mr. Olowokandi? Hershey's, line one. Mars, line two.
Loser: Houston backup point guard Brent Price
From "The Price is Right" to "The Bryce is Right."
Winner: Jessie Mae Carter, Robert Traylor's grandma
No one at the draft was as happy as the Tractor's biggest—and most ubiquitous—fan.
Loser: Ron LaFrentz, Raef's dad
If you watched the TNT draft broadcast, what was all his talk about the elk-hunting in Colorado? TNT's bewildered Craig Sager mercifully cut off the interview.
Winner: Rick "Half Full" Pitino
Super swingman Paul Pierce fits perfectly into the Celtics' rabid style.
Loser: Paul "Half Empty" Pierce
Once tabbed to go as high as No. 2, Pierce was still around for the Celtics to nab him at No. 10. In just 40 minutes, he lost millions in guaranteed-contract money.
Winners: International players
Four stars from foreign countries were picked in the first round. "He Got Game" translates nicely into many languages.
Losers: Preps
Forget "Stay in School." How about "Scared Straight?"
Winners: The Bucks
After trading away No. 4 draft-pick Stephon Marbury last year, the Bucks get it right in '98 by stealing the marketable and talented Robert Traylor from the Mavs for an overhyped foreign prospect.
Losers: The Grizzlies
Didn't Vancouver draft a point guard last year? Antonio Daniels was a bust—and got shipped out of town last night. Vancouver GM Stu Jackson is praying Mike Bibby works out better.
Winner: Scoring guard Jason Williams
Soaring stock lifted Florida outcast to No. 7. Thin Sac backcourt means he'll have the shots all to himself. Think of vintage rookie Allen Iverson—with a better knack for passing.
Loser: Scoring guard Larry Hughes
Speaking of The Answer, Sixers coach Larry Brown must face this question: How will he find enough shots to go around for Iverson and this electrifying draft pick?
Winner: TNT analyst Rick Majerus
Brought refreshing candor and levity to the draft broadcast, but he looked uncomfortable—and uncharacteristic—in a suit.
Loser: Dallas GM Don Nelson
Nellie has revamped the Mavs' roster like an NBA equivalent to recently deposed Sunbeam exec "Chainsaw Al" Dunlap. After a bold draft-night trade with the Bucks, Nelson better pray he can sign Dirk Nowitzki, his enigmatic German acquisition.
Winner: Prep poster child Al Harrington
New Pacer eager to learn. Bird, Mullin, Miller, Jackson will be great teachers. No pressure to perform right away.
Losers: Prep posers Rashard Lewis and Korleone Young
Blame their handlers, blame a get-rich-quick society, blame Li'l Penny. These two second-rounders, just weeks removed from their prep days, gambled on the dream of being an NBA first-round pick and lost.
Winners: Orlando and Houston war rooms
With three picks each in the first round, the pressure was on. These teams delivered: Orlando got big, Houston shored up a shaky perimeter game.
Loser: Bulls draftnik Jerry Krause
Corey Benjamin can dunk, but contrary to popular Chicago belief he ain't no Jordan.
And the Biggest Losers: Grizzlies fans at the draft
After enthusiastic participation, they had to sit by idly as the announcement was made that their hometown hero, Suns point guard Steve Nash, was traded to Dallas, quashing hopes he'd be coming to Vancouver during the offseason.
No, but you can keep making up since that's your m.o. in the first place.
Just admit you're wrong and re ed and we can all move on.
Are you saying that if I search through ST I won't find a single post of you or one of your trolls dissing the Chandler trade?
lol at Mavsfans blamig others of making up.
moving goal posts is the only thing you have now
KG was WITHOUT QUESTION the best player on the 08 Celtics
lol manu > Dirk
lol saying you didn't diss the Chandler trade
lol manu > Dirk
lol now avoiding the question
lol arguing that KG wasn't the best player of that Celtics team
lol blaming people of making up
lol then making up to troll
lol not knowing about basketball
Traylor? He's dead.
The guy that wrote that.
The sooner you can admit you're ing re ed and only clinging to KG is the best player on the 08 Celtics without question routine because it backs your terrible player x > Dirk shtick, the better.
Also can you link anything negative I said about not getting Al Jefferson?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/newr...eply&p=4505972
There's also a Mono thread saying that he quits on the Mavs () because of the trade where you scoff Ghazi's "homerness" by saying that he probably thinks it was a good trade. And many others but I'm too lazy to look it up.
BTW, I say KG was the best player of that Celtics team because he was the best player of that Celtics team, do you disagree with this?
Confirmed for being re ed for not being able to read.Also can you link anything negative I said about not getting Al Jefferson?
Convenient.And many others but I'm too lazy to look it up.
Anyway, is there a reason you changed what the original topic was about to Al Jefferson? Are you admitting you're re ed for saying KG was without question the best player on the 08 Celtics?
lol manu > Dirk
Here's another good one:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas.../si/power.html
"Why he's The Man: This virtually unknown European exploded onto the scene at the Nike Hoop Summit during Final Four weekend in San Antonio. He dominated the game with 33 points (6-12 FG, 2-3 3-pt. FG, 19-23 FT) and 14 rebounds in a 104-99 International Select Team victory. Initially was thought headed to college (he visited Cal and Kentucky), but instead entered the draft; wavered the last few of weeks but did not withdraw his name. Nowitzki has an extremely aggressive, versatile offensive game. He can score inside or step out and hit the three. A good ballhandler, he can take it to the hole (as evidenced by free throw total at Hoop Summit). Very polished in all facets. Will have teams ruing the day they bypassed him. Fellow German Detlef Schrempf was called the best import since the Volkswagen; Nowitzki's coach says, "Here comes the Porsche."
At best, he's the next: Keith Van Horn.
And if I'm wrong, he's: Cherokee Parks. "
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What's funny is that the scout or whatever person wrote that has a good feeling for how good Dirk is...and then compares him to a scrub like Van Horn.
lol using semantics to try to save face
lol poor basketball knowledge
twitter account: http://twitter.com/#!/danshanoff
You know that's a thing you guys twisted to argue, because you can't argue the conventional way.
Yes, a knowledgeable NBA fan knows this.and KG was without question the best player on the 08 Celtics
You have to consider that this was written in the times where international players were thought as lesser players just for the fact of beign born/formed outside of northamerica.What's funny is that the scout or whatever person wrote that has a good feeling for how good Dirk is...and then compares him to a scrub like Van Horn.
Dan Shanoff went full re back in '98.
You think Dirk will surpass Hakeem Olajuwon?
I would put Dirk right behind Rasheed Wallace.
After all, Sheed did it on both ends, while Irk was only average on defense
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