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Stockton is way overrated as a defender. Steals doesn't make you a lock down defender. The nba makes mistakes by using defensive stats as great defenders without looking at the games. There was no Bruce Bowen on the jazz.
He would've choked away this le if it weren't for Horry. He was choking so badly in game 5 and did some in game 6 also. Bowen, Ginobili, and Horry saved the day. What great teammates.
Stockton is way overrated as a defender. Steals doesn't make you a lock down defender. The nba makes mistakes by using defensive stats as great defenders without looking at the games. There was no Bruce Bowen on the jazz.
Nah, he is not going to shut up, that's what trolls do. But I do enjoy exposing his foolishness, just want to see how he digs himself out of the hole (could be a she, but I am assuming here, or as he would spell it, hear).
even if the jazz had bruce bowen they wouldve lost to the bulls back to back, cuz if uve noticed, bruce does not shut down the offensive power houses.
check out this years play offs
Melo is not offensive power house, neither is Allen or Hamilton, nor is Marion
To see how he wouldve done against jordan, u must see how he did against the kobe's, mcgrady's and iverson
if uve noticed, he doesnt shut them down at all, so he wouldnt have done it to jordan either
You just put down Bowen. I thought he was so untradeable. Utah would not have to waste alot of energy on one of their scorers against Jordan. No one on Utah could guard Jordan because they don't have an sg/sf stopper. This was a big flaw in Utah.
Yeah, he choked BIG time with 26 and 16, keeping his team in contention in Game 5.
And Game 6, he choked his way to 8-14 shooting, 21 pts and 15 rebounds. Man, thanks for reminding me how great Tim Duncan really his, his choking games are average/above average games for all time great forwards like Karl Malone of KG.
And I will also teach you how to count. 8 = eight. As in != 2. To state it in another manner, 2 is not 8. And the 2 you gave aren't even choke jobs (as proven above). And just to be clear, zero doesn't equal to eight either.
I asked for EIGHT choke jobs, you gave me two.
u dumb i didnt put down bowen at all, im simply statin to u to stop makin team mate excuses for malone, cuz ur makin it sound like Duncans team mates do everything
simply put, those jazz teams were destined to lose , simple as that. and since when is it a shame to not be able to stop jordan, i have yet to find one person that did, so bowen has nothing to be shamed about
I don't spend my life counting all his choke jobs but I know he had plenty in the lakers series last year. Malone and Duncan choke and that is that.
Arguing with these clowns is pointless. There are fools that think KG is in Duncan's class just like there are fools that think Kobe is in Jordans' class. That debate was settled long ago for both.
I love this, I just love this.
NBA makes mistakes by using defensive stats as great defenders, so how in the world did Bowen, who is a great defender (admitted by you), but with no great stats, get on the all-defensive FIRST team?
Duncan...2 Rings
Slava...2 Rings
Garnett...0 Rings
Enough Said...
either way im done with this dumb thread, its stupid, the kg , malone arguments are dumb as , so no more for me, im goin check out other threads
latez
Very vague, very vague indeed.
Putting up a near triple double (19/10/8) and a 21/21 game in 6 games is definitely not choking.
And if you can't even list his choke jobs, how could you say he choked?
Man, come on, this is as dumb as it could get, and that's why it's fun. It's a surprise every turn. What out-of-his-ass arguments are he going to come up next? It's better than those batman tv series in the 60's. When you least expect it, "KAPOW", here comes another stupid argument.
if u had to bet ur life on one of the followin , which would u choose
1. Duncan has a better chance(or will) at gettin his 6th ring before Garnet gets 1
2. or Garnett gets his first ring before Duncan gets his 6th(if he can get to 6)
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hmmm.... I don't think I did my job on this one. I sure as didn't end this debate.
Hey Spursdaone- If Garnett was so great he would have been able to get past the first round more than once in his 10 YEAR CAREER. Barring any major injuries the greatest players almost ALWAYS had their teams deep in the playoffs. However skilled players dont always make the playoffs. KG is skilled but he is not one of the greatest. He's in the class with Vince Carter and T-Mac not Malone Duncan and the Chuckster.
The TRUTH HURTS
Ps. If you are so high on KG why are you on a Spurs message board?
Is it because they're the champs?
I don't like Garnett but I respect what he has accomplished individually with a sorry ass team. Duncan would have the same problems with that team. Wally can't play D to save his life. Sprewell is a chucker who shoots a low percentage. Hudson same as Sprewell. Olawakandi is a sorry ass center who is worse than Rasho Nesterovic. I can't believe you compared Garnett to Carter who doesn't try and quits on his team. That is bs and you know it.
Yeah, with all those all-star teams. But don't end the conversation like this tell me more about how the NBA overrates the defenders with stats when Bowen made the first defensive team. Tell me how Malone have bad teammates, come on, I need some jokes.
What's BS is you pretending to be a Spurs fan, when you're actually a troll T-Pup fan.
Malone never had a defensive stopper like Duncan has had. I know Bowen is a great defender and I never said anytime he wasn't. Ginobili is a better defender than Byron Russell and on and on. Malone would love to have a team that is great defensively to go with his unstoppable offense.
It has to be defensive stoppers now? But you were talking about the quality of players! Why strictly talk about defense? Bowen wasn't even drafted, and was cut by teams before making a living with the Heat. If he was a teammate with better qualities to win than Stockton, shouldn't he be a HoF condidate?
And the Jazz were a very good defensive team, maybe not great, but it was a team with All-Defensive second teamer and all-time steals leader John Stockton, as well as blocked-shots specialist Mark Eaton Perhaps if Malone, as the superstar, can actually play as the defensive anchor like Duncan did (after Robinson retired/got old) and made the Jazz one of the best defensive teams of all-time like what Duncan did to the Spurs.
Duncan had both defensive specialist and a borderline superstar in Ginobili and they all played good defense. Why don't you get it that Duncan has a team that is fit perfectly around him with defense, efficiency on offense, and great passing. Malone only wished to have all 3 of these.
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