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Damn, and we were planning to go to the new casino and resort in Lake Charles in 2 weeks!!!
I'm getting mental images from "the Poseidon Adventure".. when they are all in the ball room.. and the ship turns upside down... and they water breaks thru the huge glass window....... *shudder*
Damn, and we were planning to go to the new casino and resort in Lake Charles in 2 weeks!!!
Wow..................whoever said something about the Superdome thing, yeah, that really worries me as well.
Get a whole bunch of people in a stadium which may not hold, and you have a massive grave if it all collapses.
But what REALLY scares the ever-loving out of me is thinking of all those people stuck in traffic (I assume traffic conditions will be the same, or near the same, at landfall). All those people stuck in cars, below sea level. I would have brought some WalMart inflatable rafts with me, or hooked up a boat and trailer if I had time.
But I'm not in NOLA, and I am sure I would have been panicing and not thinking a LONG time ago. It's easier to comment on this being safely in San Antonio.
1 word, POLITICS obviously the mayor didn't act early enough, but Im sure he was advised against jumping the gun because it would have been a political disaster, now it could end up being the worst disaster in the history of our country.
Also the disease that will commence after the hurricane blows through. All that water just sitting there in the bowl not being pumped out because of lack of electricity. This is going to be beyond sad...actually it already is.
Definitely.
Yeah, your plans put on hold are definetly a tragedy.
What the is it with people today?
Reactors have to be able to withstand the impact of an airliner, which is much more brutal than what this hurricane can throw at it.Well, there are nuclear reactors within 20-25 miles of both New Orleans and Baton Rouge.
I'll say it - just another example of how bad this country's legal system is. They were basically paralyzed by fear of litigation. Total bull , but a very real problem thanks to the many asshole lawyers in this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
This type of disaster shouldn't happen in this day and age in this country. It just should NOT ing happen. I know people will say this will bring out the best of America in the aftermath, but I also think it exhibits the worst.
Why are there still people there? Could you imagine how you would feel if you drove out of NO without a full carload? I woudl be beyond guilty.
Maybe I'm just a bit too idealistic for this , but it doesn't make sense to me. We should have been able to do something about it.
1 word, POLITICS obviously the mayor didn't act early enough, but Im sure he was advised against jumping the gun because it would have been a political disaster, now it could end up being the worst disaster in the history of our country.
CNN has live pictures of people linging up outside the Superdome to get it....
apparently they are putting special needs people inside1st on priority.. they mentioned people who are on dialysis and so on......
They're going to need tens of thousands of body bags in New Orleans, and you're ing about your gambling trip.Damn, and we were planning to go to the new casino and resort in Lake Charles in 2 weeks!!!
Sad.
oh.. they also said that they have "allready confiscated several guns and assorted weapons".....
As of 4pm Katrina has winds of 165mph with gusts to 200mph. Down 10mph since the last advisory.
Let's hope it continues to weaken.
Shepard Smith asked some guy why he was sitting there in a bar with a hurricane coming.
Answer: "none of your ing business."
Idiot.
heh -- you saw it too
Katrina's Effects, at a Glance
By The Associated Press
The Associated Press
Sunday, August 28, 2005; 4:09 PM
-- Hurricane Katrina's effects, at a glance:
FLORIDA:
Katrina hit the southern tip of Florida on Thursday as a much weaker storm, then headed into the Gulf of Mexico and strengthened to a Category 5 Hurricane.
_ Deaths: Nine
_ Evacuations: As the storm aimed at the Gulf Coast, people on Navarre Beach, Pensacola Beach and Perdido Key were urged to evacuate Sunday.
_ Power outages: About 515,000 customers in South Florida remained without power as of early Sunday.
_ Monetary damage estimates: Initial computer modeling estimates pegged the insured wind damage at $600 million to $2 billion.
LOUISIANA:
_ Evacuations: New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin ordered the entire city of 485,000 to evacuate. For those who couldn't, the city opened 10 shelters, including the Superdome, and urged people to bring three- to five-days worth of supplies.
ALABAMA:
_ Evacuations: Evacuations ordered for coastal and low-lying areas of south Mobile County and the beachfront and flood-prone areas of Baldwin County.
Flooding reported on Dauphin Island.
MISSISSIPPI:
Gov. Haley Barbour declared a state of emergency Saturday.
_ Evacuations: Residents all along the Mississippi Gulf Coast headed inland Sunday.
GULF OF MEXICO:
_ Oil companies shut down 1 million barrels of daily production in the Gulf, but that amount could be far higher because not every producer reports data, said Peter Beutel, an oil analyst with Cameron Hanover.
QUOTE:
"I'm really scared. I've been through hurricanes, but this one scares me. I think everybody needs to get out." _ Linda Young, 37, while filling up her gas tank in New Orleans.
They said winds are down to 165 mph. Not like that makes a difference. Hats (and roofs) are flying either way.
But let's think about this Superdome thing for a second....they cram 30k people in there. The water covers the field and, I am assuming, blocks all entrances/exits. Then come the snakes, sewage, etc with the flood water. Nevermind all the debris pounding the arena from the outside. And the roof? Someone said it was only rated for like 175 mph (I think). If that starts to collapse?
With the debris comming in from the top, and the water comming up from below, it'd be like shooting fish in a barrel. Only instead of fish, they're humans. And instead of a barrel, it is a massive stadium housing 30,000 people.
I'll take my chances in smaller buildings where I can hack my way onto the roof if need be.
at 4 Pm Cdt...2100z...the Center Of Hurricane Katrina Was Located
Near La ude 26.9 North... Longitude 89.0 West Or About 150 Miles
South Of The Mouth Of The Mississippi River.
Katrina Is Moving Toward The Northwest Near 13 Mph...and A Gradual
Turn To The North Is Expected Over The Next 24 Hours. On This
Track The Center Of The Hurricane Will Be Near The Northern Gulf
Coast Early Monday. However...conditions Are Already Beginning To
Deteriorate Along Portions Of The Central And Northeastern Gulf
Coast...and Will Continue To Worsen Through The Night.
Maximum Sustained Winds Are Near 165 Mph...with Higher Gusts.
Katrina Is A Potentially Catastrophic Category Five Hurricane On
The Saffir-simpson Scale. Some Fluctuations In Strength Are Likely
Until Landfall. Katrina Is Expected To Make Landfall At Category
Four Or Five Intensity. Winds Affecting The Upper Floors Of
High-rise Buildings Will Be Significantly Stronger Than Those Near
Ground Level.
Katrina Is A Large Hurricane. Hurricane Force Winds Extend Outward
Up To 105 Miles From The Center...and Tropical Storm Force Winds
Extend Outward Up To 230 Miles. Sustained Tropical Storm Force
Winds Are Occurring Over The Southeast Louisiana Coast. Southwest
Pass...near The Mouth Of The Mississippi River...recently Reported
Sustained Winds Of 48 Mph With Gusts To 53 Mph.
A Noaa Hurricane Hunter Plane Reported A Minimum Central Pressure Of
902 Mb...26.64 Inches.
Coastal Storm Surge Flooding Of 18 To 22 Feet Above Normal Tide
Levels...locally As High As 28 Feet...along With Large And Dangerous
Battering Waves...can Be Expected Near And To The East Of Where The
Center Makes Landfall. Some Levees In The Greater New Orleans Area
Could Be Overtopped. Significant Storm Surge Flooding Will Occur
Elsewhere Along The Central And Northeastern Gulf Of Mexico Coast.
Rainfall Totals Of 5 To 10 Inches...with Isolated Maximum Amounts Of
15 Inches...are Possible Along The Path Of Katrina Across The Gulf
Coast And The Tennessee Valley. Rainfall Totals Of 4 To 8 Inches
Are Possible Across The Ohio Valley Into The Eastern Great Lakes
Region Tuesday And Wednesday.
Isolated Tornadoes Will Be Possible Beginning This Evening Over
Southern Portions Of Louisiana...mississippi...and Alabama...and
Over The Florida Panhandle.
Repeating The 4 Pm Cdt Position...26.9 N... 89.0 W. Movement
Toward...northwest Near 13 Mph. Maximum Sustained Winds...165 Mph.
Minimum Central Pressure... 902 Mb.
An Intermediate Advisory Will Be Issued By The National Hurricane
Center At 7 Pm Cdt Followed By The Next Complete Advisory At 10 Pm
Cdt.
The entrances look well above street level.
I would not want to be in the superdome at all. Y'all are right. I have a bad feeling about it. I hope I'm wrong.
Damnit! I wanted to hear that.
The joys of live TV.
Shep's also got to take some of the blame. People always tell journalists to stop asking stupid questions.
Also, as with live TV, he (or a producer) should have asked the guy prior to going live if he could talk with him.
I would go to either an office building or a new hotel in a janitors closet away from the windows.
I'm really worried about he roof of the Superdome.. .especiually since they;ve said that so far they have 10,000 special needs people in there allready...... gesh.
Hurricane Katrina Discussion Number 24
Statement as of 5:00 PM EDT on August 28, 2005
Katrina is maintaining a classic presentation on satellite
images...and category 5 intensity. The central pressure measured
by a NOAA hurricane hunter plane at 1755z and 1923z was 902
mb...which is the fourth lowest on record in the Atlantic Basin
behind hurricane Gilbert of 1988...the Labor Day hurricane of
1935...and hurricane Allen of 1980. Having said that...data from
the stepped-frequency microwave radiometer instrument on board the
aircraft suggest that the surface to 700 mb flight level wind ratio
is not quite as large as we typically use...and the initial
intensity is adjusted slightly to 145 kt. Hurricanes do not
maintain such great intensity for very long. However there are no
obvious large-scale mechanisms...such as increased vertical
shear...to weaken Katrina. The hurricane is likely to make
landfall with category 4 or 5 intensity.
There is not much change to the track forecast philosophy. Initial
motion is about 315/11. Katrina is expected to gradually turn
northward into a break in the subtropical ridge associated with a
large mid-la ude cyclone near the Great Lakes. The 12z GFDL
hurricane model's track has shifted a little westward...as has the
latest NOGAPS run. The official forecast is slightly to the west
and slightly faster than the previous NHC track. This is very
close to both the dynamical model consensus... and to the latest
FSU superensemble track. Among our most reliable models...only the
U.K. Met. Office is significantly to the east of the official
forecast track. It should be noted that the small change in the
official forecast track is essentially at the noise level. One
should not focus on the exact track...particularly in the case of a
hurricane as large as this one. Destructive effects will likely be
felt well away from the center and it is not possible to specify
which counties or parishes will experience the worst conditions.
On the basis of aircraft flight level and SFMR surface wind
data...the wind radii have been expanded even more over the
northern semicircle. Hurricane force winds are forecast to spread
at least 150 N mi inland along the path of Katrina. Consult inland
hurricane and tropical storm warnings issued by National Weather
Service forecast offices.
Forecaster Pasch
Camille aftermath...
http://www.geocities.com/hurricanene...anecamille.htm
Downtown NO could look like that tomorrow.
I just heard on CNN that the cops are starting to pick up homeless people and taking them to the Superdome.
Good to hear. Sort of.
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