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    same place Malik played.
    I really haven't seen Scola's jumper from the key that much. Is it as reliable as Malik's was?
    he has a better chance than Rasho.
    And that means what? Has he guarded Dirk in the past? I haven't seen those games.

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    Produce. Points, rebounds, hustle. Producing = playing time. Something Rasho hasn't seen in 6 straight playoff series.

    What are your predicted numbers for Scola?
    Probably Malik at his best, which was 01/02 and 02/03, which was 10 points and 6 rebounds. Provided Javtokas isn't here as well.

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    I really haven't seen Scola's jumper from the key that much. Is it as reliable as Malik's was?
    Malik's peak wasn't spent as a jumpshooter.

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    Does Scola guard Dirk?

    Is Scola an NBA shotblocker?

    And where does Scola play in halfcourt sets with Duncan?

    I just used Evans as an example, but some of your questions about him could appply to Scola as well.
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    Pop said he has a reliable mid-range shot. He's also a good passer from what I've seen. Also I've seen him set good picks and is good at rolling to the basket. Also is good at taking the ball, one, two dribbles to the basket. With Duncan he gives the Spurs a high post pick with options of rolling to the basket or pick and poping. It gives the Spurs the high - low pass. Duncan occupies the best low post defender and the other team has to use a weaker defender on him. Back to the basket Scola has excellent footwork and is clever getting his shot off. Also let's say Duncan averages tops 35 minutes a game. That gives the Spurs a good low post offensive player the 13 or so minutes Duncan is not in the game.

    There is no perfect solution unless the Spurs somehow uncover an undiscovered Elton Brand.

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    Malik's peak wasn't spent as a jumpshooter.
    And yet, that's where he was in the halfcourt sets. Same with DRob. Same with Rasho. Same with Horry. Even Nazr had to put up the catapult shot from the key. This is how a big plays with Duncan. It's been that way since his second year. If Scola's jumper is reliable, that's where he'll be a good chunk of the time.

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    Again no one has to sell me on what hot they think Scola is, so take all your little diatribes about his Herculean strength and cheetahlike speed and 50 inch vertical and stuff it.
    I was trying to teach a little of basketball knowledge, at least basic concepts.. so you'd stop posting no-sense...

    I need to be convinced that we should blow our money on him instead of addressing our other needs. Or convince me he's only going to cost what Oberto or Nocioni did (which at this point is impossible).
    Who cares a crap about your 'needs' to be convinced? you started with the namecalling and now you feel we owe you explanations and arguments to convince you? Why should we bother Mr Arrogant Prick?

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    Will Spurs fans get a second serving of Latin flavor on its roster next season?


    They will according to those close to Luis Scola, including his agent Claudio Villanueva, who says the power forward is ready to play in San Antonio.

    Scola, 24, who led Argentina to its first Olympic gold medal in Greece last summer, expects to leave Spanish ACB powerhouse Tau Ceramica for the NBA next season.

    "I confirm that that will be the case," one source close to Scola told Argentina sports newspaper Olé, while Villanueva told Olé, "We cannot say that the deal is done because we all know how this world works, but there are all the indications to think that Luis will play next year in the NBA."

    Scola was selected by the Spurs with the 56th pick in the 2002 NBA draft. He is under contract with Tau until 2006, with a $2 million buyout clause.

    Spurs officials won't comment on the situation because there are still too many hurdles to clear, but general manager R.C. Buford traveled to Europe as recently as late December to watch Scola play.

    Villanueva indicated that Scola nearly played for the Spurs this season.

    "After the Olympic Games they (Spurs executives) made an approach but they had problems regarding the salary cap."
    Did you just post this to show how wrong they were about the buyout back then?

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    They only missed it by 12.5M, right Kori?

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    They only missed it by 12.5M, right Kori?
    Right.

    That's why I'm not hopeful that the latest reports we've heard of 3.5M - 5M for this season are accurate. I don't want them to have to pay Scola close to the MLE.

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    Hopefully the Spurs have watched Scola play more than any of us. In that time, I hope that they've been able to figure out how well he'd defend and rebound on the NBA. I'm taking for granted that he could score (although even that should be in question), but if he can't rebound or defend there is no way he could start or play meaningful minutes next to Duncan.

    If I'm the Spurs, I play hardball with him. Offer Scola a two-year, $5M contract. Scola needs to recognize that his first couple seasons in the NBA he shouldn't be expecting to bank. If he breaks even with his buyout, then that should be good enough for him. If he lives up to his potential that some here claim, he'll get paid good money after that ... just like Manu.

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    Who cares a crap about your 'needs' to be convinced?
    Obviously, you.
    you started with the namecalling
    You started being a dumbass. Nocioni had already been discussed in the thread. If you can't tell me how Scola would fit, fine. Post his CV again.

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    If I'm the Spurs, I play hardball with him. Offer Scola a two-year, $5M contract. Scola needs to recognize that his first couple seasons in the NBA he shouldn't be expecting to bank. If he breaks even with his buyout, then that should be good enough for him. If he lives up to his potential that some here claim, he'll get paid good money after that ... just like Manu.
    Can you retain a guy off a 2-year contract? IIRC, something changed with this with the new CBA, but I can't remember what the rule is.

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    Can you retain a guy off a 2-year contract? IIRC, something changed with this with the new CBA, but I can't remember what the rule is.
    Yeah he'd be a restricted free agent.

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    Get Scola.

    Despite the WC 03 and the Olimpics 04, a lot of folks in the US still think to Euroleague as minor ball.
    I have to tell you that a good third of the NBA teams would NOT make the Euroleague Final 4. Definitely not.
    Nesterovic was good enough to win NBA les, and here he was one among a LOT of others.
    I knew right from the start that Manu -one of the most incredible players that I have ever seen in this country- would be a hit in the NBA.
    Scola is not at that level, but he IS impressive. Very, very very physical.
    And he's only 24.

    No worry, he'll score his 6-8 points in the long and largely irrelevant season games.
    Spurs will ger 55 wins anyway.
    And when the playoffs come, and Dallas on site, he will go to REAL work. Size, height and speed.
    Perfect for demolishing Novitzki.

    That's all the Spurs should care about.
    Novitzki won't be protected by the Refs as he's been this year.
    One year for the change, and it's enough for them.

    Bring Scola in.


    That's all the Spurs have to

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    Were it a two-year deal, Scola would be a restricted FA but the Spurs would be limited to matching a new contract up to the midlevel.

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    Were it a two-year deal, Scola would be a restricted FA but the Spurs would be limited to matching a new contract up to the midlevel.
    The new collective bargaining agreement has what's called the Gilbert Arenas rule, which forbids teams from offering more than the mid-level exception to another team's second-round draft pick.

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    Forgot about that one. Does Scola count since he was picked before the new CBA?

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    I'd think so or else when Sabonis finally made it into the NBA, the Blazers could have signed him using the prehistoric CBA he was drafted under

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    In that case, I'm totally down with the 2 year, $5M contract. Whether he will be or not remains to be seen, however.

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    True enough, some things like supermax contracts were grandfathered in. I always like to see the fine print. If Scola were good enough to consider matching a full MLE offer, I'd be very happy.

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    True enough, some things like supermax contracts were grandfathered in. I always like to see the fine print. If Scola were good enough to consider matching a full MLE offer, I'd be very happy.
    True.

    And by that time Mahinmi should hopefully be in the picture. Knowing the Spurs, they'd pass on matching a big offer and just go for the cheap alternative.

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    Well we only have four players under contract at that point and Rasho will be in his final year. If he's worth it they might keep him.

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    Forgot about that one. Does Scola count since he was picked before the new CBA?
    Yes the Gilbert Arenas rule will work for Scola if he sign a two years contract.

    A contract that can be attractive for Scola is a 3 years ontract with a player option for the third. Players like player option because they have the feeling to have the power.

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    Manu's first contract was 2-years, $2.1M, right? Scola should be happy with double that.

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    Manu's first contract was 2-years, $2.1M, right? Scola should be happy with double that.
    2 years $2.9M if basketball-reference is right.

    But now we are in 2006 and euros earns more money in europe and have more value for nba teams.

    Don't forget that even if he signs a 3 years/$10M, he will take a paycut towards what he earns in Spain.

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