Parker is so non-clutch

[Spurminator]

Not true. Especially if you have a player who shoots with the frequency and accuracy of Mike Bibby handling the ball most of the game.

[AFBlue]

Not true. Especially if you have a player who shoots with the frequency and accuracy of Mike Bibby handling the ball most of the game.

....nice

[ArgSpursFan]

Not true. Especially if you have a player who shoots with the frequency and accuracy of Mike Bibby handling the ball most of the game.

Parker hundles the ball most of the games too,he plays great for 45 to 47 mins.,but he socks down the strech.I take bibby over parker for a winning field goal

[Spurminator]

You're missing the point. You can't just sub Bibby for Parker in the 47th minute.

[1Parker1]

Another good point about Parker over those other PG's listed: He's really good at staying healthy and hasn't missed many games in the past 4 seasons. (**knocks wood).

[SoCal Lakeshow]

Yes, but you don't have to trade TP so the OLD and SLOW can play in 2nd gear but trade the OLD and SLOW so TP and the spurs can play in 4th gear.

Trade Duncan for KG

[Amuseddaysleeper]

in regards to parker being too flashy for the sake of eva etc..


if anything, his play has improved since he met eva


maybe if he went with scarllett johannson he'd be kicking ass in 4th quarters as well

[exstatic]

Parker hundles the ball most of the games too,he plays great for 45 to 47 mins.,but he socks down the strech.I take bibby over parker for a winning field goal

You don't watch the Spurs at all, do you? Parker brings the ball up the court, and if it isn't a break opportunity, 90% of the time he drops it to a big at the top of the 3 point arc, and the motion offense begins. In the half court offense, Tony may handle the ball 30% of the time. It's a miracle he gets 6 assists, and yet, you people complain.

[MannyIsGod]

Mike Bibby?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[MannyIsGod]

If I was trading Parker straight up for another PG in this leauge, I can think of one I'd do, but thats it. I'd probably trade Parker for Paul, but there are no other straight up trades I'd do. Not for Nash, not for Kidd, not for Billups (although that one is close, very close).

[Kobulingam]

If I was trading Parker straight up for another PG in this leauge, I can think of one I'd do, but thats it. I'd probably trade Parker for Paul, but there are no other straight up trades I'd do. Not for Nash, not for Kidd, not for Billups (although that one is close, very close).

I'd trade Parker for Billups!!!! We'd probably win 2 of the next 3 championships, which is good enough. After that TD/Manu will be running on fumes and totally breaking down, so what does it matter if you have a Chris Paul entering his prime?

[drclic]

Trade Parker ... Billups maybe but common this guy is fading ... Nash, Kidd may have 1-2 great season and will become veteran. and if there're so great why they don't win a championship ?
Arenas is not a PG, like Dwayne Wade ....

Jason Terry : this must be a joke .. come on, he's so individualist that I can't see Manu and TD want to play with this guy ...

Kirk Hinrich .... pssssss so overrated ... good shooter, no sparkle ... a complement, no creativity, no 1on1 ... so no passing in playoff where you have to make difference.
I would even prefr Ridnour for this kind of unathletic/good shooter player.

Chris Paul, why not but it's a bargain because you don't know anything about him in playoff .. i saw him in USa basketball and just disappear in big games. He's also a poor shooter. So maybe maybe not better than Parker.


Parker still underarated by fans, not by opposent coaches (all star selection and priority of their defense much of the time).

U can't have 3 clutch player ine a team ... you need to have 1-2 (TD and Manu), TP was never suppose to be ... With this 2 just don't fill their role anymore, he has to step up but let him time and work ...

Drclic.

[ginobili fan]

Spurs fans are so genious,some of them should be GM...But they aren't...Thanks God

[ArgSpursFan]

in regards to parker being too flashy for the sake of eva etc..


if anything, his play has improved since he met eva


maybe if he went with scarllett johannson he'd be kicking ass in 4th quarters as well

Yes,His game did,thats all he cares about I guess.couse since his game has gotten better the team´s gotten worse

Like a Said, Iverson´s type of Basketball is flashy but dont win no championships

new Parker=Iverson´s clone=no good for the team

[ArgSpursFan]

Where was Manu for the first 3 quarters of the game last night? .

I would rather Have a player who shows up in the 4th than just the first 3 quarters of the game

[TDMVPDPOY]

if you think parker is clutch something is clearly wrong with you, dude is a scrub

[ArgSpursFan]

ask any Kings fan....the way Bibby has been playing lately, nobody would count on him to win a game.

And they would trade Bibby for Tony anyday...

The TP hate is

Spurs have biggest issues right now !

he wants to get traded,thats why

[1Parker1]

I would rather Have a player who shows up in the 4th than just the first 3 quarters of the game

That's where we differ, I guess. I'd like a play who shows up all 4th quarters.

[ducks]

1Parker1
do you not know that the last 5 minutes of the game count more then the first 43 minutes

I do not get that. if parker does not keep them close
manu or duncan can not get enough points for the w

pop is trying to go to tp more in 4
WHY BECAUSE he wants to win in the playoffs
they have another option
it will take tp alittle bit but he will be make more baskets in the fourth and less t.o
he hit the game winner before in phoenix before

[GrandeDavid]

I got kicked out of the Spursreport forum because early last season, I criticized Parker too much in the administrator's opinion. Basically what I said was that Parker has a very poor court vision & is too one-dimensional (penetrate & layup) to be considered anywhere near the top point-guard in the league. I also stated that I feared Spurs would not go far in the playoffs with Parker directing the offence (I duly noted that Popovich had given Parker much more responsibility for offence as well as green light to shoot more) and his lack of defence. Sure enough, Dallas knocked Spurs off despite heroic effort from Duncan and as USUAL, Parker dissappeared in the key moments in that series.

Watching last night's game reminded me why I get so frustrated watching Parker. The kid has all the natural talent but his basketball IQ or court vision must be very very low. And his inability to play tough in pressure situation is so consistent that I am inclined to believe that he cannot handle pressure in the latter stages of games. If you watch Parker, he always comes out very strong in games or in series only to basically dissappear in the crunch minutes or key games once the opposing defence starts to collapse their defence and prevent him from penetrating. Unlike Nash who can punish you if you back off him, Parker's jump shot is still so unreliable that as soon as the crunch time comes, you can see parker is so reluctant to take the important shots -- always deferring to Manu or Duncan. So effectively, our offence becomes very one-dimensional in key moments because Parker and Bowen dissappears and the only options are Manu and Duncan.

I know many posters love Parker because he is so quick and he can penetrate/finish. Unfortunately, this is not enough for a PG. And also his defence is a quite a big liability. Lastly how come makes so many turnovers in key moments but his steal numbers are so low??? I do not have scientific proof or data to support this but I watch almost all Spurs games and the general impression I have of parker is that he committs way too many mental errors and basically tends to "dissappear" in key moments when the games are close and are hanging in the balance.

I said last year that I can easily name 10 PG that are probably more clutch, and better than Parker.....(i included Hinrich in that list) and everyone at Spursreport laughed at me.

I am not trying to bash parker but it is so surprising how ineffective he becomes in clutch time and how many errors he makes and how little he contributes to the team. Parker playing one-on-five is simply not going to work in playoffs or in crunch time. Especially against an atheletic team like Dallas or even Phoenix. To me, Hinrich, Paul, Nash, Billups, Kidd, Andre Miller, etc etc. or any one of 10 other PG would be a far better fit than Parker. Parker will score...in the early going and then dissappear when the crunch time comes. PG is one of the most important position, and I can't imagine Spurs winning it all this year relying only on Duncan and Manu in key points in the games.

That was a damn good, well thought out take. You are pretty convincing, too. I must admit that I am counting the years and still waiting for him to take his game to another level. All things considered, and considering who he is and where he was drafted, he's become a pretty damn good player. I just think that fans probably need to temper expectations of him. I think Parker is a good player, that's about it. He's fun to watch at times, other times he can be frustrating as . But mostly he's pretty good.

[picnroll]

Spurs have three players tht can score, period, Parker, Manu, and Duncan. It's a miracle when some other Spur scrub puts up 10 in a game. How many times have you seen Finley and Horry handed wide open shots for bricks or Obert flubbing layups. Now some nimrods complain one of the three only scorers scores too much. Sure, cut back on Parker trying to score. Improves the Spurs shot at Oden considerably.

[smeagol]

New posters bashing Tony because they are Manu fans simply because they would like to see more Manu and less Tony is getting old.

Very old.

[ArgSpursFan]

New posters bashing Tony because they are Manu fans simply because they would like to see more Manu and less Tony is getting old.

Very old.

I would like to see some more WINNING!!!!
o, anybody out there??????

This is not about Manu vs. Tony

This is just about winning

[JPB]

I would rather Have a player who shows up in the 4th than just the first 3 quarters of the game

So, if Tony, Tim, and Manu were just showing up in the fourth, how many more wins would the spurs have ?

[ArgSpursFan]

So, if Tony, Tim, and Manu were just showing up in the fourth, how many more wins would the spurs have ?

The thing is Manu always shows on the 4rd.quearter,and Timmy as well,if tony could just concentrate on passing and findin the open man(as he should)we could´ve have a better record.At least on the 2nd.spot in the conference.