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    Come on Yoni, You know Manny is just one of those who should be ignored when he has nothing of value to say, which is most the time.

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    This is why its impossible to debate with you. You're taking 2 entirely different scenarios and trying to use them as a comparison against each other. Whether or not either city was prepared is can't even be discussed because the basis for your argument is so poor. There are points you can make about the lack of preparation in New Orleans without pointing to this current situation that are completely valid. Thats not the point.

    If you think you can use the San Diego situation as a comparison to the New Orleans situation then you either have no understanding of hurricanes (especially those of catagory 3 and above) or you're mildly re ed.

    I suspect its a little of both in your case, Yoni. Have a nice day!
    Hey Manny, if you think your argument is so great, then
    how come the dimms couldn't wait to trot out the
    N.O. situation and compare it to San Diego along with
    throwing in a little Iraq in the old stew pot. How come?

    The news media was trying to get Arnold to about
    something and he refused to. Even though his
    Lt. Governor was trashing Bush from the git go. Along
    with Boxer and a few other notables.

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    Anyone hear this clip with the president on the California fires:

    10/25 Speech

    I'm sure he has already caught over this statement, but it is so dead on:

    It makes a significant difference when you have -ah- somebody in the statehouse who's willing to take the lead.
    Could that be a hit on Blanco at the same time it's a praise for Schwarzenegger? Could it be intentional?

    Eather way... like I said, it's dead on...

    It starts about 40 seconds in.

    President Bush Discusses California Wildfires; part of official transcript:

    I appreciate the leadership of Governor Schwarzenegger. I said earlier when we were at the neighborhood, there's no hill he's not willing to charge, no problem he's not willing to solve. And we've got a problem out here, and I appreciate his leadership. It makes a significant difference when you have somebody in the statehouse willing to take the lead. I've come to make sure that the federal government provides the help for people here at the local level.

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    Anyone hear this clip with the president on the California fires:

    10/25 Speech

    I'm sure he has already caught over this statement, but it is so dead on:



    Could that be a hit on Blanco at the same time it's a praise for Schwarzenegger? Could it be intentional?

    Eather way... like I said, it's dead on...

    It starts about 40 seconds in.

    President Bush Discusses California Wildfires; part of official transcript:
    i like the point you're making, in this situation. Cali is no rookie to these cir stances. but it's no surprise that bush would show up to take advantage of a situation where he didn't screw the pooch. you completely agree with him deflecting any deserved criticism. nice photo op.

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    It's simple. In Cali you have people who are successful (or at least rely on credit), have nice , and aren't stuck in a bowl of water

    In LA you have many poor people, who rely on the government, many have no class, no appreciation, etc etc.

    People getting massages vs. people ting on the walls. Government's fault no doubt!

    All this partisan crap, haha.
    Last edited by Walter Craparita; 10-27-2007 at 02:25 PM.

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    This is why its impossible to debate with you. You're taking 2 entirely different scenarios and trying to use them as a comparison against each other. Whether or not either city was prepared is can't even be discussed because the basis for your argument is so poor. There are points you can make about the lack of preparation in New Orleans without pointing to this current situation that are completely valid. Thats not the point.

    If you think you can use the San Diego situation as a comparison to the New Orleans situation then you either have no understanding of hurricanes (especially those of catagory 3 and above) or you're mildly re ed.

    I suspect its a little of both in your case, Yoni. Have a nice day!
    I lived in Corpus Christi when Hurricane Celia (A Cat 4 or 5, I don't recall) destroyed the city. Our family lost everything but our lives. Not near the whining and belly-aching and finger-pointing and "when's the government gonna help my poor ass" that has gone on in New Orleans.

    There is a fundamental difference between the population of New Orleans and the population of San Diego -- and their respective leaders.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Anyone hear this clip with the president on the California fires:

    10/25 Speech

    I'm sure he has already caught over this statement, but it is so dead on:



    Could that be a hit on Blanco at the same time it's a praise for Schwarzenegger? Could it be intentional?

    Eather way... like I said, it's dead on...

    It starts about 40 seconds in.

    President Bush Discusses California Wildfires; part of official transcript:

    this just shows bush leadership qualities. rather than show up and play president of the united states he takes a classless shot. he's a classless piece of .

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    this just shows bush leadership qualities. rather than show up and play president of the united states he takes a classless shot. he's a classless piece of .
    Actually, it was very classy, the way he praised Arnold at the same time putting Blanco in her place. At least for someone who is a poor orator.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I lived in Corpus Christi when Hurricane Celia (A Cat 4 or 5, I don't recall) destroyed the city. Our family lost everything but our lives. Not near the whining and belly-aching and finger-pointing and "when's the government gonna help my poor ass" that has gone on in New Orleans.

    There is a fundamental difference between the population of New Orleans and the population of San Diego -- and their respective leaders.
    Oh there are TONS of fundemenal differences beween he two populations. You can start with median income levels, people living under he povery lines, and education levels.

    But you had no interests in starting a debae on he social issues involved in making New Orleans what it was. Instead you took two insanely different situations and tried to use them to porray your hopeless leader in a much beer light. You were spinning away, Yoni.

    Then again, what more have we ever expected from you? FWDT dismantled you much earlier in this thread because we're all used to your games.

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    Oh there are TONS of fundemenal differences beween he two populations. You can start with median income levels, people living under he povery lines, and education levels.
    Which should have absolutely no affect on a person's ability to exercise good judgement and personal responsibility.

    But you had no interests in starting a debae on he social issues involved in making New Orleans what it was. Instead you took two insanely different situations and tried to use them to porray your hopeless leader in a much beer light. You were spinning away, Yoni.
    Only in your nanny-state universe.

    Then again, what more have we ever expected from you? FWDT dismantled you much earlier in this thread because we're all used to your games.
    Cool for you...glad you're satisfied with the result.

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    Why are we comparing apples with Tahoes?

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Which should have absolutely no affect on a person's ability to exercise good judgement and personal responsibility.
    LOL

    Right. Yoni Sociology 101 eh? Too bad you'd be hard pressed to find many socioligists that agree with you. WTF do they know anyway?

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    LOL

    Right. Yoni Sociology 101 eh? Too bad you'd be hard pressed to find many socioligists that agree with you. WTF do they know anyway?
    Apparently, not a gardamn thing. I think its ing sociologists, psychiatrists, and therapists that have gotten this country so ed up to begin with.

    Well, them, lawyers, and Democrats.

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    So much for terra...

    SANTA CLARITA, Calif. - A boy playing with matches started a fire in north Los Angeles County that consumed more than 38,000 acres and destroyed 21 homes last week, authorities said Tuesday.

    The boy, whose name and age were not released, was interviewed a day after the Buckweed Fire was sparked Oct. 21, said sheriff's Sgt. Diane Hecht.

    "He admitted to playing with matches and accidentally starting the fire," said Hecht said in a statement.

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    That kid's a sleeper agent just like Obama!

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Apparently, not a gardamn thing. I think its ing sociologists, psychiatrists, and therapists that have gotten this country so ed up to begin with.

    Well, them, lawyers, and Democrats.


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