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  1. 03-21-2008 #176
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    Vipers 1st OT Toros
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    TEAM PERCENTAGES
    FG% 40.8 FG% 43.7
    3PT% 35.3 3PT% 18.8
    FT% 62.5 FT% 80.0
    TEAM STATISTICS
    Fast Break Pts 9 Fast Break Pts 13
    Turnovers 16 Turnovers 21
    Unanswered Pts Unanswered Pts
    Play-by-Play

    (2:40)[AUS 107-101] Williams Layup Shot: Made (17 PTS)
    (2:41)[AUS] Williams Rebound (Off:4 Def:12)
    (2:44)[AUS] Barrett Jump Shot: Missed Block: Smith (2 BLK)
    (2:59)[AUS] Stinson Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
    (3:02)[AUS] Mahinmi Running Hook Shot: Missed
    (3:12)[AUS] Stinson Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
    (3:14)[RGV] Strickland 3pt Shot: Missed
    (3:27)[AUS 105-101] Stinson Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)
    (3:27)[AUS 104-101] Stinson Free Throw 1 of 2 (8 PTS)
    (3:27)[RGV] Farmer Foul:Shooting (4 PF)
    (3:39)[RGV] Farmer Turnover:Foul (7 TO)
    (3:39)[RGV] Farmer Foul:Offensive (3 PF)
    (3:57)[AUS 103-101] Mahinmi Layup Shot: Made (25 PTS)
    (4:13)[RGV 101-101] Collins Free Throw 2 of 2 (5 PTS)
    (4:13)[RGV] Johnson Subs ution replaced by Smith


    Vipers
    Timeouts Taken: 5 of 6 full, 1 of 2 20-second
    Player Statistics
    PLAYER MIN FG-A 3PT-A FT-A RB AS PF PT
    Desmon
    Farmer 44:51 8-22 2-7 5-7 5 6 4 23
    Quannas
    White 23:54 3-5 0-0 0-0 4 4 3 6
    Trent
    Strickland 22:43 6-17 0-2 3-3 7 1 3 15
    Quin
    Humphrey 25:35 2-5 2-2 0-0 2 3 1 6
    Jesse
    Smith 26:06 4-10 0-0 0-0 8 0 4 8
    Kris
    Collins 29:19 1-6 0-1 3-6 2 3 1 5
    Ivan
    Johnson 27:24 8-20 0-0 1-2 14 2 5 17
    Stanley
    Asumnu 26:03 5-6 0-0 1-3 3 0 3 11
    Sergio
    Sanchez 19:05 3-7 2-5 2-3 2 2 4 10
    Craig
    Winder 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0
    TOTAL 240 40-98 6-17 15-24 47 21 28 101
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    Timeouts Taken: 6 of 6 full, 0 of 2 20-second
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    PLAYER MIN FG-A 3PT-A FT-A RB AS PF PT
    Marcus
    Williams 40:10 6-17 0-2 5-6 16 5 4 17
    Andre
    Barrett 44:34 7-15 1-2 6-6 2 8 3 21
    Serge
    Angounou 22:34 2-3 0-0 5-5 6 0 1 9
    DerMarr
    Johnson 41:22 6-16 1-8 1-1 4 1 4 14
    Ian
    Mahinmi 40:01 9-15 0-0 7-11 16 1 5 25
    Justin
    Bowen 20:56 3-8 0-0 2-4 1 0 3 8
    Curtis
    Stinson 18:34 3-10 1-3 2-2 5 3 0 9
    Carldell
    Johnson 08:26 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 0
    Anthony
    Fuqua 07:27 2-2 0-0 0-0 5 0 1 4
    Kenton
    Paulino 00:56 0-1 0-1 0-0 1 0 0 0
    Yemi
    Nicholson 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0
    TOTAL 240 38-87 3-16 28-35 56 20 23 107
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  2. 03-21-2008 #177
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    Here's the final tally

    VISITOR: Rio Grande Valley Vipers
    REBOUNDS
    PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST PF ST TO BS PTS
    Desmon Farmer 49:51 9-24 2-8 7-11 2 3 5 6 5 1 7 0 27
    Quannas White 23:54 3-5 0-0 0-0 0 4 4 4 3 1 2 0 6
    Trent Strickland 26:20 6-17 0-2 3-3 4 3 7 1 3 0 0 1 15
    Quin Humphrey 25:35 2-5 2-2 0-0 0 2 2 3 1 2 0 0 6
    Jesse Smith 26:06 4-11 0-0 0-0 2 7 9 0 4 0 2 2 8
    Kris Collins 34:19 1-6 0-1 3-6 1 2 3 3 2 5 1 0 5
    Stanley Asumnu 27:26 5-6 0-0 1-3 1 2 3 0 5 1 1 0 11
    Ivan Johnson 27:24 8-20 0-0 1-2 6 8 14 2 5 0 4 1 17
    Sergio Sanchez 24:05 3-7 2-5 2-3 1 1 2 2 4 0 0 0 10
    Craig Winder 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    TOTAL 265 41-101 6-18 17-28 17 32 49 21 32 10 17 4 105
    40.6% 33.3% 60.7% Team Rebs: 12 Total TO: 17


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    PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST PF ST TO BS PTS
    Marcus Williams 45:10 6-18 0-2 7-10 4 13 17 5 4 0 5 2 19
    Andre Barrett 44:34 7-15 1-2 6-6 0 2 2 8 3 2 4 0 21
    Serge Angounou 24:28 2-3 0-0 5-5 3 4 7 0 2 0 1 0 9
    DerMarr Johnson 46:22 6-16 1-8 1-1 0 5 5 1 5 0 4 0 14
    Ian Mahinmi 43:07 9-15 0-0 7-11 8 8 16 1 6 2 3 5 25
    Curtis Stinson 23:34 3-10 1-3 5-6 1 4 5 3 0 0 1 0 12
    Justin Bowen 20:56 3-8 0-0 2-4 0 1 1 0 3 1 1 1 8
    Carldell Johnson 08:26 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 2 2 3 2 0 0
    Anthony Fuqua 07:27 2-2 0-0 0-0 2 3 5 0 1 0 0 3 4
    Kenton Paulino 00:56 0-1 0-1 0-0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0
    Yemi Nicholson 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    TOTAL 265 38-88 3-16 33-43 19 40 59 20 26 8 22 11 112
    43.2% 18.8% 76.7% Team Rebs: 11 Total TO: 22
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  4. 03-21-2008 #179
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    Five blocked shots. But it looks like he is still having issues with personal fouls.
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  5. 03-21-2008 #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southwest Texas Fan
    Five blocked shots. But it looks like he is still having issues with personal fouls.
    yeah 6 fouls.
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  6. 03-21-2008 #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Body
    Twice hurt not even a year gone. Didn't he tear a chest muscle just trying to dunk last summer or something? Injury prone. We'll see if he truly is, but this ain't a good sign.

    Congrats you win the award for dumbest poster of the year.
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    I know TimVP said Marcus is playing mostly PF and that he doubts his skills would translate to the nba. However, considering the spurs play a lot of small ball, wouldn't marcus be a great smallball PF? I understand he's got outstanding reach for his height.
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    Im very surprised at Marcus Williams' production...

    I think hes at 19-7-4 on an impressive 54% even with a couple of 6-18 outings recently.

    Although, recently i saw Julius Hodge play here in Australia and i came away a little unimpressed given the hype... and i saw a couple of games on TV and thought he wasnt all that good...

    Then i looked at the D League and saw Hodge averaged 25-8-6 on 60% shooting so im not sure how compe ive the D League is.
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  9. 03-22-2008 #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by T Park
    Congrats you win the award for dumbest poster of the year.
    oh i can name 5 worse right off the top of my head
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    You got Pittsnoggled!

    Pittsnoggle is on the team. Hilarious!
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    Toros blew up a 23 point lead in the second half. They were outhustle by Vipers players.
    Toros are quite lucky to win this one, Mahinmi tied the game with a dunk with 5s left in regulation and during the last play, referee could have given FTs to Vipers.
    Anyway, Tulsa and Colarado have lost. Toros are in a very good position palyoff seed wise

    Mahinmi has had a very good game. It's nice to see him back after his injury. He did a good job at rebounding the ball and had some great moves on both end of the court. Everything wasn't perfect and he could have avoid a couple of fouls, especially his 6th that was really stupid.
    Barrett was also good. He made some nice assists and was aggressive. With him, Squeaky Johnson and some ball hogs gone, Toros offense is smoother than before.
    Marcus Williams did a great job at rebounding the ball but was quite bad. He forced and missed a lot of things on the offensive end.
    Other Toros were average to bad. Johnson shoot was off. Fuqua played well but was in the doghouse.

    Vipers had a great reaction in the middle of the third quarter when they were down by 23 and while they lost yesterday by 35. Desmon Farmer is by far their most talented player and had a good second half. A special mention to Sergio Sanchez who comes fom nowhere and played great including a 3 pointer in the last minute of regulation that could have given the win to Vipers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno
    Toros blew up a 23 point lead in the second half. They were outhustle by Vipers players.
    Toros are quite lucky to win this one, Mahinmi tied the game with a dunk with 5s left in regulation and during the last play, referee could have given FTs to Vipers.
    Anyway, Tulsa and Colarado have lost. Toros are in a very good position palyoff seed wise

    Mahinmi has had a very good game. It's nice to see him back after his injury. He did a good job at rebounding the ball and had some great moves on both end of the court. Everything wasn't perfect and he could have avoid a couple of fouls, especially his 6th that was really stupid.
    Barrett was also good. He made some nice assists and was aggressive. With him, Squeaky Johnson and some ball hogs gone, Toros offense is smoother than before.
    Marcus Williams did a great job at rebounding the ball but was quite bad. He forced and missed a lot of things on the offensive end.
    Other Toros were average to bad. Johnson shoot was off. Fuqua played well but was in the doghouse.

    Vipers had a great reaction in the middle of the third quarter when they were down by 23 and while they lost yesterday by 35. Desmon Farmer is by far their most talented player and had a good second half. A special mention to Sergio Sanchez who comes fom nowhere and played great including a 3 pointer in the last minute of regulation that could have given the win to Vipers.
    Cool did you watch the game by stream?
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  13. 03-22-2008 #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by mystargtr34
    Cool did you watch the game by stream?
    Yes.
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  14. 03-22-2008 #189
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    Whenever I have to leave a game early, it goes into overtime :pctpss

    Bruno was pretty spot on from what i saw. Ian looks to be fully back -- his movement is no longer hampered and he wasn't tentative as he was in Thursday's fame.

    For some reason, Marcus went away from what worked so well on Thursday and was trying to score too much of drives, which is very difficult to to against Hoffman's swarming defensive strategies. Yo really can't say he played PF in these past couple of games because the Vipers only run one big man at any given time. The Toros spend much of there time with the conventional starting lineup of Ian/Serge/DerMarr/Marcus/Andre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutalis
    oh i can name 5 worse right off the top of my head
    Saying the guy is injury prone after being knocked out of midair smacks of stupidity pretty good.
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    Iani with one of his best lines of the season against the Defenders


    27 points
    12-17 FG
    11 boards
    2 assists
    3 steals
    5 BLOCKS
    3 fouls
    43 minutes

    Toros get the W
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    http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/200.../boxscore.html
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    He was nice and active tonight. Ian and the rest of the Toros gave up too many offensive boards to the D-Fenders, but were very tough down the stretch.
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    How tall do you think he is? In that photo with Bruce on Bruno's dp, he looks about 7'0" .... but i saw they recently changed his listing to 6'9" on nba.com/dleague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mystargtr34
    How tall do you think he is? In that photo with Bruce on Bruno's dp, he looks about 7'0" .... but i saw they recently changed his listing to 6'9" on nba.com/dleague.
    Well this says that he's 6'11"...but then again, I could have just put that in.
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    Yea ive seen him listed now from 6'9" 6'10" and 6'11"... my guess is a solid 6'11"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno
    Mahinmi was 6'10.3" without shoes last year.
    Splitter has been measured at 6'10.25" without shoes in 2004 (6'11.75" in shoes). Maybe he has has grown a little since that.
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    Those are metric inches.
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    As Sean Elllliotttt always says, you don't rebound with the top of your head.

    What are vertical reaches?
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    ^ Thats a good point.... i think Tiago's vertical reach was 9'2.5" which is nice considering guys like Dwight Howard and Greg Oden are around 9'4"... i would guess Ian's would be around 9'4" also... the polotically correct side of me wishes not to express why.
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