Kidd, Armstrong, Malik Allen, for Devin Harris, Stackhouse,Diop, Ager and George

[yavozerb]

I guess Mavs fans forget that Kidd is getting 20+ mil a year...

[vander]

So who on the spurs will guard Dirk when he and Kidd run the pick and pop ?

I thought kidd had a shaky jumper, so make him shoot, go underneath. unless kid is the one picking and rolling

[TeyshaBlue]

I guess Mavs forget that Kidd is getting 20+ mil a year...

I guess spurs fans forget that Cuban is a farkin billionaire.

[mardigan]

You believe Kidd is what he was and what they gave up was worth it. You know that Harris plays great against the Spurs and he is gone as is one of their better guys to D up Duncan. Kidd is not what he was, he is a step slower, most people agree with this.

Harris is overated against anyone except the Spurs.
And taking Dirk out of the role as court leader alone makes the Mavs better.

[naico]

Wow thanx Mr. Cuban

Best Parker defender=Harris= gone---->in= one of worst Parker defenders
Best shooter against Spurs= Stackhouse= Gone------>in=an awfull shooter
Good Duncan defender= Diop= gone------>New secondary Duncan defender?----> Bass= Brainless against fundamental Duncan moves

[Radiosparks]

Wow! All those players, cash and draft picks. Are you kidding me? Not a great deal by any means.

[TeyshaBlue]

Harris is overated against anyone except the Spurs.
And taking Dirk out of the role as court leader alone makes the Mavs better.

I think the Mavs have been inflating Devin's value for the last couple of months....

Is there any credance to the thought that Kidd makes other players better due to his ability to distribute?

[Holt's Cat]

Meanwhile, has nobody suggested that the Spurs make a play for Diop this summer?

That is not a bad idea. It's not like the Spurs' 5 spot is set in stone. Oberto probably could continue to start but I wouldn't say he has that locked up. Presumably Splitter will be coming over but it seems a bit much to expect him to step into the starting role right away. Elson is gone. Diop does make a lot of sense.

[cash459]

I guess spurs fans forget that Cuban is a farkin billionaire.

what!?!? its called a salary cap...thats what 20+ million hurts....

[yavozerb]

I guess spurs fans forget that Cuban is a farkin billionaire.

Mavs, keep spending money and spurs will keep winning championships...Good enough trade for ya. PS almost forgot that finley says o.

[tav1]

While this trade would help the Mavs versus every other NBA team, this would massively help the Spurs chances of beating Dallas in the playoffs. Harris guards Parker well. Diop guards Duncan well. Stackhouse and George turn into Jordan and Pippen when they play the Spurs.

Kidd is damn good but the Spurs have multiple players who can guard him .... and Kidd can't really guard anyone on the Spurs outside of Bowen.

This needs to become official.

Fast.

Yes, fast and faster.

There is also this: Stackhouse will be bought out by the Nets and Diop is a free agent in the offseason. I suspect Stackhouse will seek to sign a Vet minimum with either Phoenix, San Antonio, Cleveland or Boston. Would any want the Spurs to sign him? I'm ambivalent.

Re Diop: If he could be had inexpensively, he'd be a decent rotation pick up in the offseason. Nothing to write home about, but at least he's worth looking at.

Phoenix and Dallas are worse now than 2 weeks ago. I think the Spurs still need to add a little grit up front, but this is a positive development.

[jrmp317]

So who on the spurs will guard Dirk when he and Kidd run the pick and pop ?

the Spurs are just gonna go under the screen all day long. Kidd doesn't have the quickness to get by his man like Harris does, and his jumper is just as bad.

[vander]

what!?!? its called a salary cap...thats what 20+ million hurts....

it's a pretty damn soft cap, Isaiah was spending well over 100 mil a year until this season

[yavozerb]

That is not a bad idea. It's not like the Spurs' 5 spot is set in stone. Oberto probably could continue to start but I wouldn't say he has that locked up. Presumably Splitter will be coming over but it seems a bit much to expect him to step into the starting role right away. Elson is gone. Diop does make a lot of sense.

With splitter and possibly Mahinmi on the roster next year I really do not see this happening

[implacable44]

I expect the mavs to go after Mike Miller

PG - Kidd
SG - Miller
SF - Howard
PF - Nowitzki
C - Dampier

who will they give up for Miller?

I think the Spurs apologists on the board are speaking out of fear and ignorance. Jkidd has played well with very team he has been on and made every team he was on better --- including the Olympic team. The Spurs wanted him a few years back for TP and if they would have gotten him -- they would have repeated already and you know it. Kidd makes people better and he makes plays. Mavs don't need him to shoot. He will set people up - give them the ball exactly where they like it -- right when they can score and in the right spot. Dirks numbers will go up - Howards will go up.
Spurs need to make a move or they will be in trouble come the post season. For all the hate responses I get --I still wish they would trade TP -- better do it before Duncan retires because when that happens TP will be exposed.

Jkidd makes the Mavs better and smart money says that should the MAvs play the Spurs in the playoffs - Brandon Bass will see a lot of time against Duncan -- just like Big Baby for the Celtics and proved to be quite effective.

Kidd
Howard
Dirk
Bass
Dampier
Terry
T. Hassell
Eddie Jones
J. Howard

still a darn good team. They will have roster spots to fill and I am sure they already have those deals in the works.

[Flight3107]

Stackhouse will be back with the Mavs in 30 days

[Holt's Cat]

Make a play for him NOW!
Assuming this is official, Diop can be traded as an individual player in the next week. NJ is going nowhere in the playoffs - even with this trade they aren't taking BOS or DET. Not to mention Harris as PG adapting to a new system means they likely miss the Playoffs altogether. Diop is a UFA this summer. Do you think that we could get Diop from NJ for Elson's expiring contract and the raptors 2008 2nd + cash or something along those lines . Diop would be a major short term upgrade over Elson... We would also get his bird rights for this summer, which might be nice.

PS. I agree with just about everyone else. This trade makes DAL better against most teams, but worse against the Spurs.

The only thing is, why would the Nets move Diop? Picks would be the most likely scenario, if they aren't interested in keeping him. But he would be useful to the Nets. Maybe the Spurs take back a smallish contract with some years left on it. Man, that would be a pretty sweet move though if they could pull it off.

[yavozerb]

it's a pretty damn soft cap, Isaiah was spending well over 100 mil a year until this season

And it worked out well for them..

[TeyshaBlue]

what!?!? its called a salary cap...thats what 20+ million hurts....

he aint afraid of a luxury tax...besides, it seems that NJ will buy out Stackhouse which frees up some of his 9 million.

[Flight3107]

what!?!? its called a salary cap...thats what 20+ million hurts....

Yeah, because the Mavs are never over the salary cap

[Spurfanindallas]

There is also this: Stackhouse will be bought out by the Nets and Diop is a free agent in the offseason. I suspect Stackhouse will seek to sign a Vet minimum with either Phoenix, San Antonio, Cleveland or Boston. Would any want the Spurs to sign him? I'm ambivalent.

I think he'll resign with the mavs but I know he can't play for something like 30 days, but I wouldn't mind him on the spurs he's got heart.

[Ghost Writer]

That is not a bad idea. It's not like the Spurs' 5 spot is set in stone. Oberto probably could continue to start but I wouldn't say he has that locked up. Presumably Splitter will be coming over but it seems a bit much to expect him to step into the starting role right away. Elson is gone. Diop does make a lot of sense.

Upgrading Oberto with Diop.

Wow.

That's like upgrading Vaughn with D. Stoudamire.

Wait.

Nevermind.

[Holt's Cat]

With splitter and possibly Mahinmi on the roster next year I really do not see this happening

Splitter is unknown. Mahinmi is more promise than anything right now plus I see him starting to get his minutes at the 4. Diop would be a very nice reserve 5. At a minimum you will have Horry and Elson leaving the bigman rotation this summer so there should be a spot available for an addition via free agency.

[Holt's Cat]

Upgrading Oberto with Diop.

Wow.

That's like upgrading Vaughn with D. Stoudamire.

Wait.

Nevermind.

Upgrading Elson with Diop.

Think.

[Slohoop]

Stupid, stupid, stupid!

I wouldn't trade Harris for ten Kidds


Yes, Cuban is crazy

Go, Spurs Go!