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    Sean Williams is a tool, a headcase, doesn't care about basketball, and is highly overrated as a prospect. The Spurs would never take him.
    and that's understating it....

    I also don't think that the Spurs add picks in this draft....unless they are assuredly going overseas with the pick.

    Spurs keep #28 and #33, pick domestic with one and international with the other...

    #58 is probably international and/or an incredible longshot to make this team especially this year...

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    Sean Williams is a tool, a headcase, doesn't care about basketball, and is highly overrated as a prospect. The Spurs would never take him.
    just read about Sean Willams and his "workout audiences" in Houston. he refuses to travel to teams that invite him, but is arranging public workouts with interested NBA teams alongside a 7-3 Romanian player.
    wow. now his stock will skyrocket!

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    just read about Sean Willams and his "workout audiences" in Houston. he refuses to travel to teams that invite him, but is arranging public workouts with interested NBA teams alongside a 7-3 Romanian player.
    wow. now his stock will skyrocket!
    He'll still go in the first round to a team in desperate need of an athletic shot-blocker with high potential. I've seen mocks that have him as high as #17 to the Nets...and as crazy as that sounds, they are in the worst way when it comes to frontcourt talent/size.

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    He'll still go in the first round to a team in desperate need of an athletic shot-blocker with high potential. I've seen mocks that have him as high as #17 to the Nets...and as crazy as that sounds, they are in the worst way when it comes to frontcourt talent/size.
    Go ahead and draft that idiot Williams before us. That just means more talent trickles down to the 28 and 33. But when you're desperately trying to trade him because Ron Artest is a better locker room guy then don't complain.

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    According to DX's surveys of the league, people think New York is down to Daequan Cook or Sean Williams.

    It's as if they're not even drafting, to us.

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    According to DX's surveys of the league, people think New York is down to Daequan Cook or Sean Williams.

    It's as if they're not even drafting, to us.

    What about the report that Wilson Chandler received a promise from them at #23? If he's not going to them, then did he receive a promise from another first round team...Spurs?

    He shut his workouts down and the Spurs were one of the few teams to get a look at him right? Is it possible?

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    What about the report that Wilson Chandler received a promise from them at #23? If he's not going to them, then did he receive a promise from another first round team...Spurs?

    He shut his workouts down and the Spurs were one of the few teams to get a look at him right? Is it possible?
    Apparently Wilson Chandler's own camp was spreading the rumors of a promise. He's not first round material.

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    Apparently Wilson Chandler's own camp was spreading the rumors of a promise. He's not first round material.
    Yeah I don't think he's first round material either, but to stop your workouts is pretty risky...

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    Fazekas is not nearly enough athletically to help us! I can see now after re-evaluating the williams pick how he wouldn't be a good fit, but that still doesn't diminish the need to start developing new talent. Let the Scola dream go and start fresh.

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    There are guys who everyone was orgasmic over a few weeks ago that no one even mentions any more--and not necessarily because they have moved out of the picture up or down. People just lost interest because they'd been talked to death.

    This is just chasing our tails like mad dogs. I'm just gonna wait until the FO pros make their selection and then like like everyone else 'cause (name a player here) wasn't picked.

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    This is just chasing our tails like mad dogs. I'm just gonna wait until the FO pros make their selection and then like like everyone else 'cause (name a player here) wasn't picked.
    There are only a few ways I would and moan over our draft picks...

    A) Rudy Fernandez is there at 28 and we pass on him
    B) Rudy Fernandez is there at 33 and we pass on him
    C) Rudy Fernandez is there at 58 and we pass on him

    Otherwise I trust our front office to make a good selection that is in our long-term interest.

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    There are only a few ways I would and moan over our draft picks...

    A) Rudy Fernandez is there at 28 and we pass on him
    B) Rudy Fernandez is there at 33 and we pass on him
    C) Rudy Fernandez is there at 58 and we pass on him

    Otherwise I trust our front office to make a good selection that is in our long-term interest.
    Prepare to be disappointed...

    Seriously though, I have to agree with an earlier statement by timvp that the Spurs seem to be targeting players that will most likely be there when they pick at #28 and #33. That means if a guy like Rudy slips to #28, the Spurs still might take the guy they have worked out, interviewed, and gotten comfortable with over him.

    I don't know if Rudy lasts to #33, but my guess is that the Spurs might have planned to go "international" with that pick anyways....so he'd be the best value there. That'd be insane!

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    Fazekas is not nearly enough athletically to help us! I can see now after re-evaluating the williams pick how he wouldn't be a good fit, but that still doesn't diminish the need to start developing new talent. Let the Scola dream go and start fresh.
    Honestly, I don't see Williams falling past #27 to the Pistons. I know they lost Delfino, but he hardly got any PT. They're talking about trading Sheed, Webber is getting older, McDyess is a FA, and the word was that they were targeting DeVon Hardin at #27....a raw, athletic big man.

    So, I personally don't think Williams gets the opportunity to be drafted by the Spurs, even if they wanted him....which I seriously doubt.

    On moving on past Scola...the Spurs already drafted a raw, athletic shot-blocker in Mahinmi and have Butler on this team through next year and into 2008-09 if they want.

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    The Draft Express mock keeps having Julian Wright taking a tumble after Philadelphia takes Al Thornton after him.

    Al Thornton is a 'wtf?' pick - I see him having no impact on wins and losses, but Philly needs a scorer to put alongside Andre Iguodala. The next three picks will all be guards (Charlotte-Nick Young; LA Clips-Javaris Crittendon; Detroit-Rodney Stuckey).

    Which brings us to #16 and Washington. This is an interesting point, since the Wizards don't obviously need a SF at this point, with Caron Butler, although Wright could play some PF. Then you have #17 and New Jersey, which needs a true big man and already has a starting SF.

    It's an interesting tumble, and one to watch. Wright has a lot of interesting skills that would be aces on a Spurs squad. He's not much of a scorer, but can do a bunch of other things, and is smart and coachable. THIS is where I'd try to trade up to nab him.

    Scola + #28 to New Jersey or Washington for Julian Wright??

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    The Draft Express mock keeps having Julian Wright taking a tumble after Philadelphia takes Al Thornton after him.

    Al Thornton is a 'wtf?' pick - I see him having no impact on wins and losses, but Philly needs a scorer to put alongside Andre Iguodala. The next three picks will all be guards (Charlotte-Nick Young; LA Clips-Javaris Crittendon; Detroit-Rodney Stuckey).

    Which brings us to #16 and Washington. This is an interesting point, since the Wizards don't obviously need a SF at this point, with Caron Butler, although Wright could play some PF. Then you have #17 and New Jersey, which needs a true big man and already has a starting SF.

    It's an interesting tumble, and one to watch. Wright has a lot of interesting skills that would be aces on a Spurs squad. He's not much of a scorer, but can do a bunch of other things, and is smart and coachable. THIS is where I'd try to trade up to nab him.

    Scola + #28 to New Jersey or Washington for Julian Wright??
    Julian Wright at #18 would be crazy good! He plays like a PF and would likely take some time to develop his perimeter game, but he's got great athleticism, is an unselfish player, lots of present talent, and loads of potential...

    Having said that, I don't even think he's on the Spurs' radar...man that would be nice though.

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    Julian Wright at #18 would be crazy good! He plays like a PF and would likely take some time to develop his perimeter game, but he's got great athleticism, is an unselfish player, lots of present talent, and loads of potential...

    Having said that, I don't even think he's on the Spurs' radar...man that would be nice though.
    I'm not sure he's on anyone's radar at that point. I'm sure the Clippers or one of the earlier teams would abandon 'greatest need' and go BPA and select him before #17, but DX does have him falling to #16 (Wizards), therefore out of the lottery. If that does happen, the Spurs should try like mad to get there.

    He wouldn't go past #18 and Golden State, IMO.

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    And the annual Hoopsanalyst draft series continues, this time with SF's:

    http://www.hoopsanalyst.com/0607ew12.htm

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    And the annual Hoopsanalyst draft series continues, this time with SF's:

    http://www.hoopsanalyst.com/0607ew12.htm
    A great read.

    Julian Wright is a very good complementary player who could learn to score better.

    We, as a board, went through a pro-Dominic McGuire phase a while back but have cooled on him (via overexposure), but might need to return to him as a prospect - even if the Spurs 'seem' to not have him on the radar.

    He is cautionary about Morris Almond.

    Thaddeus Young, to him, is a good gamble.

    Nick Young is an overrated scorer who does little else - compares him to Jason Kapono.

    He is skeptical of Jared Dudley's very good shooting numbers last year.

    He thinks Alando Tucker won't do anything in the pros.

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    Because you liked the last one so much, SG's

    http://www.hoopsanalyst.com/0607ew13.htm

    Of particular interest is what he has to say about Byars (who people think might drop to us), and Belinelli...

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    Because you liked the last one so much, SG's

    http://www.hoopsanalyst.com/0607ew13.htm

    Of particular interest is what he has to say about Byars (who people think might drop to us), and Belinelli...
    Anyone notice how my boy DJ Strawberry (not to mention Rudy) is way up on this guys board? Strawberry at 58 would be amazing!

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    A great read.

    Julian Wright is a very good complementary player who could learn to score better.

    We, as a board, went through a pro-Dominic McGuire phase a while back but have cooled on him (via overexposure), but might need to return to him as a prospect - even if the Spurs 'seem' to not have him on the radar.

    He is cautionary about Morris Almond.

    Thaddeus Young, to him, is a good gamble.

    Nick Young is an overrated scorer who does little else - compares him to Jason Kapono.

    He is skeptical of Jared Dudley's very good shooting numbers last year.

    He thinks Alando Tucker won't do anything in the pros.
    I firmly believe that whatever team uses a lottery pick on Julian Wright will come to regret it - especially if they want him as a small forward. He's basically Drew Gooden with better defense (because of his athleticism) but a worse handle and less range.

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    I firmly believe that whatever team uses a lottery pick on Julian Wright will come to regret it - especially if they want him as a small forward. He's basically Drew Gooden with better defense (because of his athleticism) but a worse handle and less range.
    [sarcasm] But Gooden was a starter on a Finals team! [/sarcasm]

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    I firmly believe that whatever team uses a lottery pick on Julian Wright will come to regret it - especially if they want him as a small forward. He's basically Drew Gooden with better defense (because of his athleticism) but a worse handle and less range.
    I couldn't disagree more. He's a much smarter basketball player than Gooden, anyway.

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    I couldn't disagree more. He's a much smarter basketball player than Gooden, anyway.
    But how much is smarter worth (especially compared to a guy like gooden)? Yeah, Gooden's a moron, so maybe that kills that comparison in terms of intelligence. But Wright has a horrible handle and his range on his jumper ends at about 5 feet (no exaggeration there).

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    But how much is smarter worth (especially compared to a guy like gooden)? Yeah, Gooden's a moron, so maybe that kills that comparison in terms of intelligence. But Wright has a horrible handle and his range on his jumper ends at about 5 feet (no exaggeration there).
    we lived with malik and rasho who had no range, i think we can live with wright for a few season...

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    Smarts does make a difference. Fabricio Oberto would be a 12th man in this league if it weren't for his smarts. Instead, hes the starter on a championship squad.

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