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I find this hard to believe, the casinos evacuated all the important stuff (read, money) before the storms hit.on fox they are saying people are looting slot machines...
Maybe they left money in the penny and nickel slots, but that's about it.
Ain't happenin' man. We bust our asses to help others, as I believe we should in a global community, but others rarely move to help us.Where is Kofi Annan?
Where are the C130's from Indonesia?
Where is the French carrier Charles De Gaul?
I find this hard to believe, the casinos evacuated all the important stuff (read, money) before the storms hit.on fox they are saying people are looting slot machines...
Maybe they left money in the penny and nickel slots, but that's about it.
Gov. Perry is giving a live news confernce right now on CNN.....
they just fixed it while I'm posting this....
I haven't even seen a peep of sympathy out of the UN. One more reason that P.O.S. organization needs to find some other country to leech off of.
Take the 10 billion a year that the US sinks into the upkeep of the UN building, supporting UN operations, and put it towards rebuilding NO with better drainage and pumps, along with restoration of the wetlands south of town.
the people may not know that.. and are trying to break into the machines
I saw a shot on MSNBC last night of a dude scooping up coins off the ground...looked up at the camera and kept on scooping.I find this hard to believe, the casinos evacuated all the important stuff (read, money) before the storms hit.
Maybe they left money in the penny and nickel slots, but that's about it.
500 buses to bring refugees to Houston.
Rick Perry says they can stay as long as they want - even into December.
We'll be making room for them in our public schools ...etc etc.
after some Walmart was looted. Guns were reported stollen also.
Walmart is going to get $1 million and more from this disaster. Home Depot and Lowes should be jumping in to help,they're both going to profit inmensly.
What happenned to all those corporations that were giving MILLIONS to the TSUNAMI disaster?
Some quotes form Steve Gregory's last email last night
The information that is coming out now about the storm is very interesting from a meteorlogical standpoint. You are now looking at the storm all future storms - untill a stronger one comes along (and one will) - will be measured against.There is no longer any doubt that Katrina has brought the Greatest Natural Disaster this Country has ever seen. While pure wind damage was indicative of a CAT 3 to CAT 4 hurricane -- the Storm Surge was of Catastrophic Proportions indicative of a strong CAT 5 Hurricane - but covering a distance of coastline more indicative of a Tsunami. The slower than typical forward motion of what was one of the strongest and unquestionably the largest Hurricane to ever exist in the Gulf of Mexico -- led to the generation of a storm surge beyond anyone's comprehension, or expectation. Officially, the Bay of St Louis gauge recorded a 22 foot storm surge, but several spots within the Bay visually investigated today has found the surge was up to 25 feet -- greater than Camille, which brought the greatest surge U.S. history. Unquestionably CAT 5 storm surge damage exists for almost 50 miles to the east, with CAT 4 storm surge damage reaching to Dauphin Island near the mouth of Mobile Bay -- and storm surge damage near CAT 2 intensity reaches as far away as Pensacola. No Hurricane has ever produced such a widespread area of utterly complete destruction.
It sounds like someone ed up. Pretty bad. Regardless of relief, the prudent thing to do would have been to check the objects protecting you. I'm struggling to understand what exactly they were thinking.There are 2 known breaches of the Levee that has led to the complete flooding of the city and forced an immediate emergency evacuation of everyone still there. --(And there may soon be a third breach, along with a 'catastrophic' failure of a large area near the original levee breach.) The COE's believe that storm waves gradually eroded away 2 areas on each of the Levees, and that eventually, a whole section (1 about 400 feet long) simply gave way. This sounds quite plausible. I also understand that the Levee was built to withstand a CAT 3 Hurricane. What that really means exactly, I'm not sure. Were they referencing wind forces of CAT 3 speeds, or 'estimated storm surge' heights?
In either case, if it is true that the levee was designed to hold up in a CAT 3 storm, then whoever thought a CAT 3 'survivability' Levee was 'adequate' must not have checked with too many Meteorological experts, or for that matter, anyone alive who may recall Hurricane Camille struck as a CAT 5 just 'up the road a bit' from New Orleans, in 1969.
But more critically, it is somewhat perplexing to me that seemingly no engineers/inspectors were sent out after the storm center passed to survey the Levee system to identify if there were any 'problem spots'. It's as if they looked out the window, saw there was no flooding downtown (other than general storm sewer backup flooding) and figured 'all was well'. From an 'outsider's view' of what was going on, media reports certainly made it sound like 'all was well' -- because the storm 'missed' the city by passing 20 miles or so to the east of downtown New Orleans.
In fact, the national 'view' of what had happened was reflected by the drop in crude oil prices of $2 by Monday afternoon after hitting a record high during the early morning session while the storm was bearing down on the coast. This collective 'sigh of relief' after the storm 'missed' the city, may also explain why it took 6 hours for anyone to really notice that just 5 miles east of the downtown district, people were clinging to life on rooftops with water 15 ft deep surrounding them, and whole brick buildings had crumbled.
The city first began to experience rising water in the streets around 9PM Monday night - 12 hours after the eye had passed. And if the COE's view is correct, and that wave action gradually eroded away parts of the levee, ultimately leading to the breach -- then it's hard not to conclude that a thorough inspection of the levee earlier in the day would of detected the developing problem -- and may have enabled repairs to be made to prevent what has in fact turned into the 'worst case scenario'. To me, sitting far away, without all the information I'm sure, this does look like the levee breach may have been avoidable.
In addition to what at the moment seems like a lapse in judgment to investigate the integrity of the Levees immediately following the passage of the storm center -- no doubt made during a time of extreme stress for all involved -- there is also a legitimate engineering question of just what wind forces were experienced on the exposed Levee superstructure above the mean water level as the eye of Katrina passed to the east of the city itself.
The attmepting looting is in Mississippi, where the slot machines have spilled out of the wrecked casino barges among all the other debris.
It may well be that all they are collecting for their efforts are worthless tokens.
let 'em have it.
3 pounds of nickels ain't a lot but you know that guy is happy for it.
Soon they will all grow gills and swim underwater like Kevin Costner in Waterworld
they looked like quarters or dollars but they were probably the tokens Stout was talking about.
Would you help out Bill Gates if someone burned his house down?
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) -- When Xavier Bowie died in a flooded New Orleans neighborhood, his wife did the best she could in a city so preoccupied with saving the living that no one can deal with the dead.
She wrapped his body in a sheet, laid him on a makeshift bier of plywood boards, with a little help, and floated him down to the main road.
For more than an hour, Evelyn Turner waited along Rampart Street outside the French Quarter, her husband's body resting on the grassy median as car after car passed, their wakes threatening to wash over the corpse.
"This is ridiculous," Turner, 54, said as she sobbed into a dirty washcloth.
Bowie, 57, a truck driver who had been with Turner for 16 years, had advanced lung cancer and could not be easily moved. When Turner could find no one to take them out of the city, she decided to stay home and hoped the storm would spare them.
"I've got electric and stuff right now," Turner told herself. "I can keep going. I've got oxygen. I can keep going."
But Hurricane Katrina left her neighborhood under several feet of water. By Tuesday, with no phone and only a small tank of oxygen left, Turner slogged out into the streets for help.
By the time she got back, Bowie had died.
Grief-stricken, Turner walked 2 miles to a neighborhood police precinct and asked someone to come get the body. An officer told her a truck would be along.
When more than an hour passed, she started down the road again. When she got to the station this time, there were no more promises.
"There's nothing we can do right now," an officer said. "We don't have any equipment."
"So what I'm supposed to do? Sit with the body until you get somebody?" Turner asked.
"Unfortunately, yeah," the officer replied. "That's the only option I can give you. Because we have no way of getting to him."
With hundreds, if not thousands, of residents still stuck on roofs and in attics across the city, officials have concentrated on saving survivors of Katrina and floodwaters. "We're not even dealing with dead bodies," New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said Tuesday.
When Turner got back to the corpse, she collapsed onto the plywood sheets and wept.
Curtis Miller, a former city employee, helped float the body down the road, hoping a passing military truck would pick Bowie up. He was disgusted.
"I'm hurt to my heart with this," the grizzled man said. "To see the city stoop this low. It shouldn't be, mister. It should not be."
Finally, about three hours after Bowie died, Miller flagged down a passing flatbed truck filled with downed tree limbs. After some heated words and an offer of $20, he persuaded the driver to take the body to Charity Hospital, where the police had directed them.
Turner helped load the body into the truck bed, then climbed aboard.
The truck turned and made its way into the French Quarter, where jazz bands are known to lead joyful funeral processions through the storied streets. But the streets were deserted Tuesday, and there was no music for Bowie, just the whirring of helicopter blades above.
Right about now there are 20,000(and growing) terrorrists in the world that are honestly believing "Allah is great" and god is on their side.Would you help out Bill Gates if someone burned his house down?
Yes. It's called being a good neighbor. Look into it.Would you help out Bill Gates if someone burned his house down?
That's why I usually give to the salvation army - they give help regardless of socioeconomic status.
Oh, and I hope it doesn't come out that the levees were only built to withstand a cat 3 storm. Cat 5 storms are rare, and Cat 4 storms are uncommon, but neither are impossible by ANY means.
Cat 4 storms occur on a fairly regular basis, actually.
People stayed for various reasons. They weren't all just "stupid".Bowie, 57, a truck driver who had been with Turner for 16 years, had advanced lung cancer and could not be easily moved. When Turner could find no one to take them out of the city, she decided to stay home and hoped the storm would spare them.
If I was his neighbor, yes.Would you help out Bill Gates if someone burned his house down?
that was a sad story Kori. what's even sadder is that it will probably happen more.
Its called being stupid. Half the world can't even feed itself, but they are supposed to run to our needs? Yeah right.
We are the richest nation in the world, we don't need the help and those of you expecting it from other countries are just being asinine.
Somehow this will be blamed on the Taliban, they have a wicked weather machine
Oh and for the record, if Bill Gates's house was burned down, I'm not going to donate money to him.
I am not expecting it from other countries because I know it won't happen. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice. You are right though...we should have the resources to help our own.
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