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    A wife's desperate journey with her husband's corpse






    edit:kori got there 1st.

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    See you when it burns SWC Bonfire's Avatar
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    Oh and for the record, if Bill Gates's house was burned down, I'm not going to donate money to him.
    So if Bill Gates showed up in your front yard, you wouldn't give him a t-shirt and a pair of shorts?

    It's not about financial need. It's about need, period.

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    I'm on a roll sa_butta's Avatar
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    Oh and for the record, if Bill Gates's house was burned down, I'm not going to donate money to him.
    Besides Im sure he has more than one house. And if not he could have one built immediately.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Right about now there are 20,000(and growing) terrorrists in the world that are honestly believing "Allah is great" and god is on their side.
    I love your random number of terrorists.

    Anyhow, I believe the same thing will happen with some Christians using this disaster to show that God was simply taking out the sinners. Don't act like it is just an Islamic extremist thing.

    Christian extremeists did it with 9/11, whats going to stop them this time?

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    Carnival Cruise lines is going to work with FEMA to donate one of thier cruise ships as a floating refugee station.

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    I think the comparisons to the tsunami are unfair at this point... This is close to home and very tragic, but the effects of the tsunami are to a degree that I don't think most people quite understand.

    I'm sure donations will come pouring in over the next few weeks, but it's unlikely that they will be to the degree of the tsunami efforts. I'll wait a while until I start to judge the charitability of other nations.

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    Carnival Cruise lines is going to work with FEMA to donate one of thier cruise ships as a floating refugee station.
    Where are they taking them?

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    So if Bill Gates showed up in your front yard, you wouldn't give him a t-shirt and a pair of shorts?

    It's not about financial need. It's about need, period.
    You're right, it is about need. And the need the rest of the world have is STILL greater than our need. We have enough to take care of what is going on down there. We have FEMA, most of the businesses have insurance.

    Did the Tsunami victims have that?

    Bill Gates wouldn't show up on my front door asking for things because he has the resources to take care of his own things.

    We shouldn't expect anything from anyone.

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    It sounds like someone ed up. Pretty bad. Regardless of relief, the prudent thing to do would have been to check the objects protecting you. I'm struggling to understand what exactly they were thinking.
    There was widespread awareness of the inadequacy of the levees surrounding New Orleans. I read newspaper articles about it four years ago.

    The way the information was presented was that if a Cat 4 or Cat 5 hit anywhere near the city, eventually the levees would give way, there was nothing that could be done to shore them up in the meantime or stop the catastrophe once the levees were weakened, and that the city would be destroyed. It was only a matter of time. They knew this would happen.

    If the United States were an autocratic country, doing the necessary projects to save the city would be straightforward. But in a democracy, you have to convince a majority of people who on average haven't got any semblance of a clue that their tax money needs to be spent on those projects.

    Furthermore, Louisiana never could get its together even to plan for what needed to be done to protect New Orleans in the first place. The politics in that state don't operate even as well as the inefficient proceedings of the other 49. It's run more like a Third World banana republic.

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    I think the comparisons to the tsunami are unfair at this point... This is close to home and very tragic, but the effects of the tsunami are to a degree that I don't think most people quite understand.

    I'm sure donations will come pouring in over the next few weeks, but it's unlikely that they will be to the degree of the tsunami efforts. I'll wait a while until I start to judge the charitability of other nations.
    The reason there were so many contributions the the tsunami was because they are poorer and everyone knew w/o those contributions they would not survive as a country. Of course there will be less charity going to Katrina because everyone in other countries knows we have the money and resources to rebuild w/o that help.

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    Where are they taking them?

    i'd think Houston... and then just stay there... but they havn't worked out the details yet, they are just offering thier services to FEMA.
    I hope FEMA takes them up on it.

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    FEMA is a bureaucratic joke. They once gave someone I know $80 for "cleaning supplies." His house completely washed away.

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    Carnival Cruise lines is going to work with FEMA to donate one of thier cruise ships as a floating refugee station.
    as long as its in US waters otherwise and crimes will NOT be solved!

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    And how are they going to determine who gets on the ship?

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    The city first began to experience rising water in the streets around 9PM Monday night - 12 hours after the eye had passed. And if the COE's view is correct, and that wave action gradually eroded away parts of the levee, ultimately leading to the breach -- then it's hard not to conclude that a thorough inspection of the levee earlier in the day would of detected the developing problem -- and may have enabled repairs to be made to prevent what has in fact turned into the 'worst case scenario'. To me, sitting far away, without all the information I'm sure, this does look like the levee breach may have been avoidable.
    Sounds like a load of crap. Inspect the entire levee system around the city, formulate a plan and mobilize the manpower and resources to reinforce at least two areas of the levees on opposite sides of town -- one where flooding had already occurred?

    All in a few hours?

    Unlikely.

    These levees may have originally been designed to survive a cat 3, but everyone knows they have sunk and deteriorated since then. The up was committed far earlier than right after the eye passed through.

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    I posted this in the Spurs forum, but here it is....

    DALLAS - Mavericks coach Avery Johnson has two sisters who live in New Orleans and hasn't heard from them since the Hurricane Katrina hit Monday.

    "We don't have a grip on it," Johnson said Tuesday. "I'm just asking people, obviously, to pray."

    Born and raised in New Orleans, Johnson didn't want to divulge his sisters' names because he doesn't want the focus to be on his family.

    "It's not just about my family," Johnson said. "It's about all of the states -- Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi.

    "It's really a tough situation right now, and we're just praying that the recovery can begin as soon as possible. We're just hoping and praying that everything will be OK."

    Johnson's wife, Cassandra, is also from New Orleans. The two were married there in 1991.

    Johnson said most of his family and his wife's family got out of New Orleans before Hurricane Katrina made landfall early Monday.

    Some are staying at Johnson's home in The Woodlands, and Donnie Nelson, the Mavs' president of basketball operations, has helped, too.

    "I've got family members [staying] all around Dallas," Johnson said. "Donnie Nelson has been helping me out with some housing. I've got people all up and down Interstate 10. Some are at my house, and some are in hotels."

    Johnson fears the worst for his hometown.

    "They won't be able to get back in there for a couple of weeks, and I think the worst is going to happen before it gets better," he said. "But when the time comes, I want people to just open up their hearts and open up their wallets as best they can just for the people that are devastated by this storm.

    "The point is, this didn't hit Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi. It hit America."

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    And how are they going to determine who gets on the ship?

    Well, if they hadn't searched for weapons on those going into the Superdome.....then maybe Darwin could have figured it out.


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    We shouldn't expect anything from anyone.
    Good point. We should always take care of our own(meaning Americans) first.

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    So if Bill Gates showed up in your front yard, you wouldn't give him a t-shirt and a pair of shorts?

    It's not about financial need. It's about need, period.
    sure I'd give him my website and tell him to download the latest "patch" to cover his hiney.
    And then I would ask him to buy my latest creation "Micro-shorts" & "Micro-shirt" for only $300 a piece. How about them apples,Bill?

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    FEMA is a bureaucratic joke. They once gave someone I know $80 for "cleaning supplies." His house completely washed away.

    they offered us $1200 for a 3bd 2 bath house on 5 acres.
    HA! we didn't take it.

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    Thing that gets me is that those looters are taking things that they dont really need or cant use right now. I cant say if I was stuck there that I would not loot, but for food, clothes and things to keep me and my family alive. These ers are taking guns, clothes, shoes and bull .

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    Good point. We should always take care of our own(meaning Americans) first.
    I got to admit I hate it when we are the first to help other countries when disaster hits and yet we have our own problems here with homeless and things like that. But when the tables are turned the help is not there.

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    I think the comparisons to the tsunami are unfair at this point... This is close to home and very tragic, but the effects of the tsunami are to a degree that I don't think most people quite understand.

    I'm sure donations will come pouring in over the next few weeks, but it's unlikely that they will be to the degree of the tsunami efforts. I'll wait a while until I start to judge the charitability of other nations.
    The death toll won't be as high as the tsunami, but it's not going to be dwarfed by it either.

    Just do the math.

    New Orleans has a metro population of 1.2 million. Around 80% got out. That leaves around a quarter-million people. If people aren't already dead, they will die soon if they can't get out from hunger, thirst, exposure, disease, poisoning, or the dangers of the wild. When Gov. Blanco talks about getting all the refugees out, she talks about 25,000-30,000 people. Maybe there are a couple thousand left to be rescued at best.

    That's 200,000 people left. What happens to them? The loss of life here is going to be in the tens of thousands at least. The tsunami was something up to 250,000. The tsunami was bigger, but not that much bigger.

    Our friends are going to help out to some degree. Tony Blair obviously is going to offer help. Other Western European nations will help out if only because their large corporations that do business along the Gulf Coast will insist upon it. China would help out if only to kiss ass with people it wants to do business with. Same with Russia.

    Sure, Egypt and such won't help, but do we want them around anyway?

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    Director Masetri of the JP Emergency offices looks like he hasn't slept for days

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    well i might take a new set of clothes, some dry shoes and a couple packs of undies......you can over wear your clothes, but oyu can't over wear your undies.

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