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    Dear troll, I will explain why your arguments are not valid: they suffer from severe selection bias. First you choose a single attribute (shooting), then you select the stat that best suits your own opinion (ignoring the most recent and relevant stat). Do you understand that by selecting very specific info and ignoring all other info you can "prove" virtually anything? Do you understand that this doesn't mean , if for example a certain player sucks and makes opponents go and fans go ? when he is on the floor?

    Also if you don't want other people to think that you are a kid, don't use the words "hate" and "own" quite as often.

    That being said, this thread is so stupid it is/was kind of funny.
    3 point shooting and wing/interior defense was a big problem for us this past season; Mason helps with the 3-pt shooting when he doesn't have an injured shooting hand.

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    Keep it going bro., your stupidity entertains us.
    Were you not loved as a child or something? All you wanna do is bash me for no reason.

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    haha, love seeing everyone so bitter about me dominating some of the big posters on SpursTalk. This is fun.

    The best part is people trying to say I'm wrong and stupid without having a discussion with me. Too funny.
    What is there to discuss?

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    haha, love seeing everyone so bitter about me dominating some of the big posters on SpursTalk. This is fun.

    The best part is people trying to say I'm wrong and stupid without having a discussion with me. Too funny.
    Infact everybody is exhausted to have a discussion with you.

    As I told you before, RMJ is a terrible 3 pointer in play-offs. We don't need a guy who steps back when play-off comes.

    And we should give a chance to James Anderson instead of RMJ. 8th/9th player of the team don't need to be a veteran, it can be a rookie anyway. 8th/9th players take 10-12 minutes every night and we can use James in that spot. It doesn't matter how he sucks or fails, because we all know that RMJ also sucks and fails in play-offs and we can give his spot to Malik Hairston anytime we want.

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    Infact everybody is exhausted to have a discussion with you.

    As I told you before, RMJ is a terrible 3 pointer in play-offs. We don't need a guy who steps back when play-off comes.

    And we should give a chance to James Anderson instead of RMJ. 8th/9th player of the team don't need to be a veteran, it can be a rookie anyway. 8th/9th players take 10-12 minutes every night and we can use James in that spot. It doesn't matter how he sucks or fails, because we all know that RMJ also sucks and fails in play-offs and we can give his spot to Malik Hairston anytime we want.
    James Anderson is the best counter-point to RMJ not coming back. It's also why he won't be coming back. James Anderson, however, at this point has proven nothing. On this team, he will be asked to play good defense and be a good spot up shooter, especially his rookie year. Can he do it? Yes. Is he a lock to do it? No. Pop has shunned rookies in favor of rookies in the past, and the fact that Mason knows the system would be a huge advantage for him. If I need a crucial 3 at the end of the game in June, would I rather have Mason or Anderson? For me, it's Mason. I just trust vets more than rooks. Also, Mason IS capable, when there's injuries, of playing very limited minutes at PG, which Anderson cannot (or hasn't proven). Also, stop quoting Mason's 3-point percentage in the playoffs, it's over a laughably-small sample size and everyone is using it as their argument, which is laughable.

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    James Anderson is the best counter-point to RMJ not coming back. It's also why he won't be coming back. James Anderson, however, at this point has proven nothing. On this team, he will be asked to play good defense and be a good spot up shooter, especially his rookie year. Can he do it? Yes. Is he a lock to do it? No. Pop has shunned rookies in favor of rookies in the past, and the fact that Mason knows the system would be a huge advantage for him. If I need a crucial 3 at the end of the game in June, would I rather have Mason or Anderson? For me, it's Mason. I just trust vets more than rooks. Also, Mason IS capable, when there's injuries, of playing very limited minutes at PG, which Anderson cannot (or hasn't proven). Also, stop quoting Mason's 3-point percentage in the playoffs, it's over a laughably-small sample size and everyone is using it as their argument, which is laughable.
    So you just choose the stats that help your argument, no matter how flawed, but others can not? Figures. Also, Mason would not have been coming back even without us drafting Anderson. He can not produce for this team enough to warrant a resigning. Plain and simple. His big production year was without Manu, and he is not capable of coming close to repeating that with the playing time he would be getting. Also, his ing hand/wrist wasnt injured all year so get off that. Is it so difficult to believe he was a one hit wonder? RMJ really has not proven much either btw. Your also saying Anderson is not a lock to "do it"? Well can anyone honestly say RMJ is either? He played well not even an entire season and yet you try to make it more depsite what other more intelligent people say to you. You are obviously either a troll or one delusional . I am honestly tired of this back and forth with you. I suppose you might take it as another "victory", but I would rather you be left in your "Chazland" than deal with this stupidity any longer. I grow tired of the ignorance, not the wannabe compe ion.

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    So you just choose the stats that help your argument, no matter how flawed, but others can not? Figures. Also, Mason would not have been coming back even without us drafting Anderson. He can not produce for this team enough to warrant a resigning. Plain and simple. His big production year was without Manu, and he is not capable of coming close to repeating that with the playing time he would be getting. Also, his ing hand/wrist wasnt injured all year so get off that. Is it so difficult to believe he was a one hit wonder? RMJ really has not proven much either btw. Your also saying Anderson is not a lock to "do it"? Well can anyone honestly say RMJ is either? He played well not even an entire season and yet you try to make it more depsite what other more intelligent people say to you. You are obviously either a troll or one delusional . I am honestly tired of this back and forth with you. I suppose you might take it as another "victory", but I would rather you be left in your "Chazland" than deal with this stupidity any longer. I grow tired of the ignorance, not the wannabe compe ion.
    I'm saying look at the sample size. RMJ got good minutes in 4 playoff games. The 12 pts and 42% from 3 came over a 82 game sample. Big difference.

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    If I need a crucial 3 at the end of the game in June, would I rather have Mason or Anderson? For me, it's Mason.
    Wrong answer and you lost. We gave the ball to Mason behind the arc 7 times in this year's play-offs and he could put it in only 1 times . So how can we trust him espexcially in June? How did he gain your confidence that he can do it in June.

    We don't know James can do, maybe he can't. But he deserves a chance. But Mason doesn't deserve another chance. He used his chance and waste it. He failed. He couldn't do what he should. He couldn't prove anything when June came. Maybe neither James can do it, but we should try him.

    Also, stop quoting Mason's 3-point percentage in the playoffs, it's over a laughably-small sample size and everyone is using it as their argument, which is laughable.
    So what should we quote? How can we know what a player does in June? By checking his regular season stats or play-off stats?

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    Answer my question troll?

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    Answer my question troll?
    Repeat it and I will

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    Do you admit that your argument is based on a biased and narrow selection of a player's attributes and a biased and narrow selection of stats regarding that specific attribute?

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    Roger, you see ? I told you ! Keep the good work: 9 pages and couting

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    Do you admit that your argument is based on a biased and narrow selection of a player's attributes and a biased and narrow selection of stats regarding that specific attribute?
    People make alot of money in this league if they're good at one skill. All Chris Duhon can do is pass, and he just made 15 mil. All Roger can do is shoot, and that is a coveted skill.

    So, to answer your question, while I admit Roger's only great skill is shooting, shooting is a highly-sought after skill by championship teams. As an 8th-9th man that is very valuable.

    I feel like I'm repeating myself because I have 15 people attacking me. To hold my own 15 vs 1 is quite amusing.

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    Also, my averages of 9ppg and 38% that I would expect to see from Roger are from his 2-year Spurs career. So I have plenty of sample size for those numbers. People using his playoffs stats are basically using 4 games.

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    Post one example where someone had a point that I had a valid response to. Just one.
    You're right. I can't.

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    How is it that we need Roger back?? The last thing we need is another inconsistant shooter. He has been given too many chances to prove himself. The only times he really made any 3 pointers is when we were already up in the game and didnt matter. Towards the end of the season he was aweful. I would rather take my chances with Bonner or Anderson, but RJM is definitely out in my book.

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    Will you guys let this thread die please...

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    How is it that we need Roger back?? The last thing we need is another inconsistant shooter. He has been given too many chances to prove himself. The only times he really made any 3 pointers is when we were already up in the game and didnt matter. Towards the end of the season he was aweful. I would rather take my chances with Bonner or Anderson, but RJM is definitely out in my book.
    Roger will likely be offered the full MLE, but he'll probably re-sign with the Spurs for 2/3 of that because he has a house here already. Waiting for facts to prove that's not true. Waiting.

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    The first 11 seconds of what is said pretty much sums up Mason the last year and a half.

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    Don't worry. He could probably get more than Bonner.

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    u jus set it off in dis thread..


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    Quick: Blazers talking to Roger Mason

    AUTHOR: Coup | IN: Blazers | COMMENTS: None Yet |
    From The Oregonian’s Jason Quick on Twitter:
    Blazers having “ongoing conversations” with free agent guard Roger Mason according to agent Mark Bartelstein. “We’ve talked quite a bit.”
    Mason certainly fits the shooter profile the Blazers have been after, as a 38.1 percent career shooter from three, but even when he peaked in 2008-09 with the Spurs — 30 minutes, 11.8 points, 42 percent from three, 42.5 percent from the field, three rebounds, two assists — he still only managed a below-average PER of 11.9 (career high 13.8 in fewer minutes the year before in Washington) with poor-to-average defense. Essentially, he’s only going to make an impact as a shooter and possibly late in games on the free-throw line.

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