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    Why would any sane person put an unqualified person who has no clue about the law?
    One (establishment) vote for Garland

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    Definitely don't want Garland , but you don't need someone like AOC on the court. AOC is better served as a politician. You more or less muzzle her as a SCOTUS judge.
    What Trump did to the Presidency, we can do to the SC. norms. She can read her opinions in a ing bikini and livestream it on IG

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    One (establishment) vote for Garland
    He knows the law at a granular level so yes, if it comes to someone with zero knowledge to someone who actually does, the answer is obvious.

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    this is a approach. you take their governing philosophy, "Triggered", and throw it back twice as hard.
    Fair or not, this approach doesn't work for Democrats the way it works for Republicans. It's a choice between feeling good and winning.

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    What Trump did to the Presidency, we can do to the SC. norms. She can read her opinions in a ing bikini and livestream it on IG
    If we're going to norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.

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    He knows the law at a granular level so yes, if it comes to someone with zero knowledge to someone who actually does, the answer is obvious.
    2016 thinking/#stillwithher

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    What Trump did to the Presidency, we can do to the SC. norms. She can read her opinions in a ing bikini and livestream it on IG
    It's not about norms, I agree about saying norms, it's about deploying resources where they have the largest impact. AOC doesn't have any impact as a SCOTUS justice, she's just another RBG or Elena Kagan. Much more influential as popular congresswoman who's keeping Pelosi honest or at least trying to.

    Regarding what medieval we should do the court, I'm not sure what requires a simple majority vs. what requires a cons utional amendment, but they should pack the courts as much as possible. Once McConnell blocked Garland all norms went out the window and he invited the Dems to play dirty. I just don't think nominating AOC is a productive way to play dirty. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't accomplish anything. Adding 2 more SCOTUS judges on the other hand does.

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    If we're going to norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.
    I'm not sure that's possible with a simple majority. But thanks to Turtle you can ram through SC justices with 50+vp

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    Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't accomplish anything.
    Yes it does. It triggers them for 40 years and reminds them she's Trump's child. Without him, she wouldn't be there. So like, uh, don't elect another Trump.

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    This is your white flag.

    You appear to have no real reasoning behind your asinine take besides LET'S OWN THE LIBS....UMM I MEAN REPUBLICANS.

    Just doesn't have the same ring to it. Sorry.

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    my april post was referring to virus living in the air on its own. Check d history
    Once again, what does the bolded mean to you?
    You know that I know the game you are trying to play here.
    Its not gonna work. Just like I have called you out on your foreign affair lies.

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    This is your white flag.

    You appear to have no real reasoning behind your asinine take besides LET'S OWN THE LIBS....UMM I MEAN REPUBLICANS.

    Just doesn't have the same ring to it. Sorry.
    I wouldn't expect an establishment DNC donor to understand.

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    I'm not sure that's possible with a simple majority. But thanks to Turtle you can ram through SC justices with 50+vp
    I'm a little bit out of my league here but I'm not sure more than a simple majority is required based on this article.

    The answer is that under the Cons ution, the number of Supreme Court Justices is not fixed, and Congress can change it by passing an act that is then signed by the President. Article III, Section 1, starts with a broad direction to Congress to establish the court system: “The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.”
    https://cons utioncenter.org/amp/b...ourt-explained

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    Yes it does. It triggers them for 40 years and reminds them she's Trump's child. Without him, she wouldn't be there. So like, uh, don't elect another Trump.
    I don't think you need a cons utional amendment to pack the courts, which is why it's the better solution. FDR almost did. It would require blowing up the filibuster so it has no shot at happening, but a much better way to penalize Republicans for Trump would be to pack SCOTUS with more judges and to also admit more Democratic states into the union. I don't see Schumer having the balls to do it but if they have a senate majority they should grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico. Heck, just break DC into two states so it gets 4 senators. Breaking DC into two states isn't any more arbitrary than the border creating two "Dakotas."

    Trump still accomplished the GOP objective by moving the swing vote further to the right, replacing RBG with AOC doesn't change who the swing vote is.

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    I don't think you need a cons utional amendment to pack the courts, which is why it's the better solution. FDR almost did. It would require blowing up the filibuster so it has no shot at happening, but a much better way to penalize Republicans for Trump would be to pack SCOTUS with more judges and to also admit more Democratic states into the union. I don't see Schumer having the balls to do it but if they have a senate majority they should grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico. Heck, just break DC into two states so it gets 4 senators. Breaking DC into two states isn't any more arbitrary than the border creating two "Dakotas."
    It doesn't have to be either or, do all of it.

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    One (establishment) vote for Garland
    saying you dont want AOC as a supreme court justice is a vote for Garland? weird. i figured there would be more candidates, where the only alternative to Garland wouldn't be taking somebody with no legal training or experience and making her a ing supreme court justice.

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    If we're going to norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.
    Honestly that, make it 13.

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    impeach K for lying to the Senate for his earlier judgeship,

    for having an emotional breakdown and political attacks in his job interview

    totally unsuitable for SCOTUS judge for ing life

    then nominate BHO as his replacement, and let Notorious RBG retire.

    "some say" turning up SCOTUS to eleven would not be acceptable,

    but why is Repug stealing Obama's SCOTUS judge "acceptable",

    why is McConnell blocking ALL of Obama's Federal judges for years acceptable?

    As always, Repugs play hardball, smash mouth, while softball Dems don't even get in the game.

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    It doesn't have to be either or, do all of it.
    Agreed, I'm just saying that if you're going to trigger conservatives, make it count. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't make it count.

    I'm not saying don't replace RBG with a liberal, just find one who's more credentialed. Find a bleeding heart 9th circuit judge who's a female minority and thinks illegals should get free healthcare and that women who are 8 months pregnant should be able to get abortions. Conservatives will be equally pissed, and that way you don't lose the progressive movement that AOC helps drive. I'm against AOC being on SCOTUS because she's one of the few progressives out there with widespread appeal and name recognition.

    The one glimmer of optimism I have that the senate might get medieval is if the Dems get a majority it won't be as reliant on red state Democrats as previous Dem senate majorities were. Outside of Tester, Manchin and Brown (who's fine with being progressive since Ohio loves him), all of the other senators will be from states that are either blue or bluish purple.

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    My dream scenario:
    - Dump wins 2020 and all breaks lose
    - US is able to keep government functioning but Democratic party has a revolution
    - they blow it up and install a new regime in DNC led by the Squad
    - uSA finally gets a left wing party
    - somehow the squad makes amends with likes of Tulsi and join forces
    - 2024, ma niga AOC is installed as POTUS, Tulsi as VP (or sec of state)
    Joe winning the election has substantially better odds than that happening, tbh... Ironically, that’s largely thanks to Trump.

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    Agreed, I'm just saying that if you're going to trigger conservatives, make it count. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't make it count.

    I'm not saying don't replace RBG with a liberal, just find one who's more credentialed. Find a bleeding heart 9th circuit judge who's a female minority and thinks illegals should get free healthcare and that women who are 8 months pregnant should be able to get abortions. Conservatives will be equally pissed, and that way you don't lose the progressive movement that AOC helps drive. I'm against AOC being on SCOTUS because she's one of the few progressives out there with widespread appeal and name recognition.

    The one glimmer of optimism I have that the senate might get medieval is if the Dems get a majority it won't be as reliant on red state Democrats as previous Dem senate majorities were. Outside of Tester, Manchin and Brown (who's fine with being progressive since Ohio loves him), all of the other senators will be from states that are either blue or bluish purple.
    We are also assuming most of the democrats will vote to confirm her. I dont think Warren would vote to confirm let alone Bernie.

    Neither of these guys would consciously put someone as nakedly inexperienced as AOC for a life appointment. All things being equal, they always talk about Trump's ty candidates being ill fitted for whatever role he wants them to be in. Split's dream is already dashed even before it starts to formulate.

    Where does one go where you get this idea from?

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    Honestly that, make it 13.
    And make sure all nominees are 55 or younger. If Republicans are allowed to ignore norms and pick underqualified judges like Uncle Thomas just because they're young and will be alive for 40 more years once they're on the court, the Dems should do it too.

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    Agreed, I'm just saying that if you're going to trigger conservatives, make it count. Replacing RBG with AOC doesn't make it count.

    I'm not saying don't replace RBG with a liberal, just find one who's more credentialed. Find a bleeding heart 9th circuit judge who's a female minority and thinks illegals should get free healthcare and that women who are 8 months pregnant should be able to get abortions. Conservatives will be equally pissed, and that way you don't lose the progressive movement that AOC helps drive. I'm against AOC being on SCOTUS because she's one of the few progressives out there with widespread appeal and name recognition.

    The one glimmer of optimism I have that the senate might get medieval is if the Dems get a majority it won't be as reliant on red state Democrats as previous Dem senate majorities were. Outside of Tester, Manchin and Brown (who's fine with being progressive since Ohio loves him), all of the other senators will be from states that are either blue or bluish purple.
    I'm not as convinced as you AOC is some political savant with an endless future, she's a primary/mistake/smear away from being a speck of dust

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    If we're going to norms I would rather just increase the Supreme Court to 11 justices.
    Norms were already ed when McConnell decided to make the Supreme Court 8 justices. Democrats should absolutely stack the courts should they win the presidency and senate.

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