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    I was just wondering what happened to you and your awful Castle takes.
    He was face guarding Herro in the first half, Herro had 3 points and 1 assist.

    Second half was a disaster by everyone, but let's just blame Castle because that's your re ed gimmick.

    i can't seem to paste print screens... look up the action with 7:30 left in the second quarter.. but i warn you, wou will never be able to look at castle the same way ever again

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    i can't seem to paste print screens... look up the action with 7:30 left in the second quarter.. but i warn you, wou will never be able to look at castle the same way ever again
    I remember the play, he ed up, so what? Everyone s up, even the best defenders.
    Him and Jeremy are the only two players on the roster who are consistently able to hold their own on the perimeter, everyone else is garbage.

    I'm not going to blame a rookie who constantly has his role changed and is playing with a bunch of low IQ scrubs for a up here and there.

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    I remember the play, he ed up, so what? Everyone s up, even the best defenders.
    Him and Jeremy are the only two players on the roster who are consistently able to hold their own on the perimeter, everyone else is garbage.

    I'm not going to blame a rookie who constantly has his role changed and is playing with a bunch of low IQ scrubs for a up here and there.
    sorry to break it to ya, but the D has gone to since castle went back into the starting lineup.. partly because of other factors as well, such as playing bassey and tre jones, but most of it is just him playing very very low iq bball. I have faith in the player, but he shouldn't be playing more than 15 mins per game

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    sorry to break it to ya, but the D has gone to since castle went back into the starting lineup.. partly because of other factors as well, such as playing bassey and tre jones, but most of it is just him playing very very low iq bball. I have faith in the player, but he shouldn't be playing more than 15 mins per game
    It's just impossible to talk basketball with you.
    But I'm going to reply one last time, after that I'll just call out your re ed takes and not bother with arguments because there aren't any.

    Castle got benched on 15th of December against Minnesota.
    Was benched for 10 games and Spurs went 4-6 in that period.
    Wins were against Blazers, Nets, Hawks (OT) and Clippers (B2B when they were completely checked out).
    The best win in that stretch was against Denver when Jeremy was out and Castle started.
    Our defensive rating in that period is heavily inflated by Nets and Clippers scoring just 86 and 87 points, respectively.
    Nets that sat everyone and Clippers on already mentioned B2B.
    Blazers scored 94, Timberwolves 106, in other 7 games Spurs gave up at least 110 points (not including OT points).
    Castle averaged 18mpg in those 10 games off the bench.
    Ideal by your standards and yet everyone with a functioning roster still dropped 110 points on these Spurs.

    Then he got the starting role back when we started a stretch agianst playoff teams and it's all his fault defense is garbage? Even though he did well on his matchup every single game considering he's the one who guards opposition's best perimeter player?
    But you're one of those ing re s who's rather going to keep digging himself deeper than admit you were wrong.
    Out of all the gimmicky re s on this forum full of lunatics you're the worst one and you never provide any arguments other than anecdotal evidence with no numbers to back it up.
    Why do I even bother with idiots like yourself.

    Castle is the only player other than Wemby who's showing some signs that he could be a long term piece, but you'd play him 15 minutes a game.
    Since you like to act like a smartass, who would get more minutes? Castle plays 25mpg as of now, please elaborate on who between Tre, Wesley and Branham should get those extra 10 minutes?
    Why do I even bother with some of you re s, ffs.

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    It's just impossible to talk basketball with you.
    But I'm going to reply one last time, after that I'll just call out your re ed takes and not bother with arguments because there aren't any.

    Castle got benched on 15th of December against Minnesota.
    Was benched for 10 games and Spurs went 4-6 in that period.
    Wins were against Blazers, Nets, Hawks (OT) and Clippers (B2B when they were completely checked out).
    The best win in that stretch was against Denver when Jeremy was out and Castle started.
    Our defensive rating in that period is heavily inflated by Nets and Clippers scoring just 86 and 87 points, respectively.
    Nets that sat everyone and Clippers on already mentioned B2B.
    Blazers scored 94, Timberwolves 106, in other 7 games Spurs gave up at least 110 points (not including OT points).
    Castle averaged 18mpg in those 10 games off the bench.
    Ideal by your standards and yet everyone with a functioning roster still dropped 110 points on these Spurs.

    Then he got the starting role back when we started a stretch agianst playoff teams and it's all his fault defense is garbage? Even though he did well on his matchup every single game considering he's the one who guards opposition's best perimeter player?
    But you're one of those ing re s who's rather going to keep digging himself deeper than admit you were wrong.
    Out of all the gimmicky re s on this forum full of lunatics you're the worst one and you never provide any arguments other than anecdotal evidence with no numbers to back it up.
    Why do I even bother with idiots like yourself.

    Castle is the only player other than Wemby who's showing some signs that he could be a long term piece, but you'd play him 15 minutes a game.
    Since you like to act like a smartass, who would get more minutes? Castle plays 25mpg as of now, please elaborate on who between Tre, Wesley and Branham should get those extra 10 minutes?
    Why do I even bother with some of you re s, ffs.
    i'll just address this one: if you knew anything about data, you'd know that anecdotal is the only valid one for a rookie and it is frankly causing second hand embarrassment to argue about advanced stats..

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    They’re the worst team in the league
    Talent wise, I believe so.

    Wemby playing out of his mind for the first half of season hid the lack of talent. Now that he’s out of gas - there’s nowhere for the chuckle s on this team to hide - including the coach.

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    I think it's a combination of schemes and low IQ. In the 4th Q, ROzier hit a 3 because Vassell left him open. Barnes left Jacquez open for 3 because he tried to help Castle. In both instances, Vassell and Barnes didnt need to help. Even the 3s of Jovic, he was left open because his man tried to help in the paint.
    Two straight years of over helping in the paint with wembanyama manning the lane. It is just mind boggling at this point.

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    I really don't like what Spurs are showing lately. In almost every game, there are stretches where the team disappears. It reminds me last season when they weren't able to play a full 48 minutes.

    Spurs last 6 games:
    L @ Bulls: a 32-13 stretch in the 4th quarter
    L @ Bucks: 15-0 in the 2nd quarter and 23-7 in the 4th quarter.
    W @ Lakers: a nice win
    L vs Grizzs: 20-6 in the third quarter and 18-3 in the 4th quarter.
    L vs Grizzs: 16-0 in the third quarter
    L @ Heat: 20-2 in the 2nd quarter and 21-4 in the 3rd quarter.

    Being outscored by 15 points in a few minutes should be a rare occurrence. It has been 1 or 2 times per game lately with Spurs.

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    Didn't manage to catch this game, but saw that Bam and Ware started next to each other in the second half - can anyone who caught the game comment on how successful this was, specifically offensively? Bam's been trying to stretch his range this season which has negatively affected his offensive performance, and Ware is a rookie who's a low volume 3 point shooter. Was Ware basically just camped at the 3 point line the entire time?

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    Didn't manage to catch this game, but saw that Bam and Ware started next to each other in the second half - can anyone who caught the game comment on how successful this was, specifically offensively? Bam's been trying to stretch his range this season which has negatively affected his offensive performance, and Ware is a rookie who's a low volume 3 point shooter. Was Ware basically just camped at the 3 point line the entire time?
    It’s a copy cat league. Spurs got exposed in that Grizzlies game. Any team capable is going to run two big lineups on the Spurs.

    Ware did his damage in the paint.

    Wemby has to defend the perimeter and the paint because no one can take ownership over their own defensive assignments. And for whatever reason they continue to over help. Wemby doesn’t need help in the paint. But he does need these dudes to at least attempt to keep their man infront of them.

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    They look like they’re pouting once they start missing consecutive shots

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    Agree. It's a head scratcher, even sometimes, Wemby is upset that we foul a player when Wemby is already there to block the shot. Dunno if it's Coach Pop's design.

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    Castle, Sochan, and Wemby are the only Spurs who can defend their man. Sometimes, Champ. The others are just meh.

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    Didn't manage to catch this game, but saw that Bam and Ware started next to each other in the second half - can anyone who caught the game comment on how successful this was, specifically offensively? Bam's been trying to stretch his range this season which has negatively affected his offensive performance, and Ware is a rookie who's a low volume 3 point shooter. Was Ware basically just camped at the 3 point line the entire time?
    They packed the paint on defense and smothered Wemby there and his 3p accuracy fell of the cliff after the first quarter. They rendered Wemby ineffective (relatively) on defense by making him come out of the paint or having to guard 1 on 2. The worst part was the other players around them had a field time. There was barely any point of attack defense in the perimeter..every wing/guard was easily blown by and in the scramble..the Heat got easy 3 point shots and they scored almost of every one. At point between the 2nd and 4th quarters, I heard the commentator saying the Heat had shot 16 out of the last 21. They went on to shoot more.

    It is plain evident that the talent around Wemby is so bad that when he has bad games, or he doesn't play ..except for flukes the Spurs are liable to be blown out of the gym.

    And it is also clear that opponents are figuring out how to neutralize the Wemby threat with this talent around him. Must be very frustrating for Wemby but it also means the Spurs have to go back to the drawing board to work out a better way to fill the spots around him.

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    They packed the paint on defense and smothered Wemby there and his 3p accuracy fell of the cliff after the first quarter. They rendered Wemby ineffective (relatively) on defense by making him come out of the paint or having to guard 1 on 2. The worst part was the other players around them had a field time. There was barely any point of attack defense in the perimeter..every wing/guard was easily blown by and in the scramble..the Heat got easy 3 point shots and they scored almost of every one. At point between the 2nd and 4th quarters, I heard the commentator saying the Heat had shot 16 out of the last 21. They went on to shoot more.

    It is plain evident that the talent around Wemby is so bad that when he has bad games, or he doesn't play ..except for flukes the Spurs are liable to be blown out of the gym.

    And it is also clear that opponents are figuring out how to neutralize the Wemby threat with this talent around him. Must be very frustrating for Wemby but it also means the Spurs have to go back to the drawing board to work out a better way to fill the spots around him.
    We need a new development team as well.Majority of our young guys got worst at shooting.Vassell,sochan,collins,wesley,branham
    jones ect all got worst at shooting.

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    i'll just address this one: if you knew anything about data, you'd know that anecdotal is the only valid one for a rookie and it is frankly causing second hand embarrassment to argue about advanced stats..
    Typical "no, you" deflection.
    40 games is enough of a sample size to see that our offense looks way better with Castle as a starter (proven on many occasions) and the defense is about the same with Castle/Jeremy as point of attack defenders.
    We won 11 games with Castle as a starter, 8 with Jeremy.
    Best wins when Jeremy started were Rockets on the opening night, one win against Minnesota and Hawks OT, but the defense in that game was garbage. Every other win was against tanking teams except for Clippers that were on a b2b and have given up before the game started.
    With Castle starting we won against the Kings x2, Denver, Lakers, Warriors and OKC.

    I was the first one to say that Jeremy should start when we need a defender on big wings, but that's about it.

    This roster is straight up garbage and there's no reason whatsoever not to start and play Castle 30 minutes because he's already a solid contributor and easily has the highest ceiling on the roster. Wemby obviously excluded.
    Jeremy is a huge negative on offense and while he can be a great glue guy, he just can't be a starter for serious teams until he develops a jumpshot.
    Castle's shot is also bad, but at least he makes some and he's our best paint penetrator, which again says about the rest of the roster.

    And in your re ed deflection you as per usual avoided a simple question.
    If we go with your take that Castle should play 15mpg, which player should get those extra minutes on this laughable roster?

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    go for it you fat
    You're right on that one at least haha

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    the last three games have been pretty embarassing ... now on to France to face a Pacers team which has found its groove

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    i can't seem to paste print screens... look up the action with 7:30 left in the second quarter.. but i warn you, wou will never be able to look at castle the same way ever again
    Castle got toasted a couple of times on defense, couldn't stay with that little white guy.

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