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    Beat me to it.

    Same ol' Buddy Holly, couldn't get his head any farther up the ass of the Spurs front office if he tried.
    Same a ol'l you, bash me out of nowhere.

    My nuts are that addictive are they? It seems you've never left.

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    3-year, $7M?

    So actually it's a 3-year, $14M for the Knicks to match including the tax.

    Let's just hope Dolan has told Isiah he isn't allowed to spend anymore or something.

    Spurs need a miracle.

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    what are the spurs saving for? this is getting re ed. the spurs are doing less than they can to win over the next two seasons. that. duncan isn't 25 anymore. he's 30. manu is 29 this summer. now is your time to win.

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    I wish our owners were like Dolan.

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    Supergirl- we all hope you're right.

    The problem is Isiah's a prideful guy. Jackie is his big find. One of the things he takes pride in is finding and drafting good young talent. And he doesn't want to be seen as a loser, because in his mind he's not. He doesn't intend on losing any battle this year (just games).
    Jackie is only ONE of his finds, and he had no problem offloading Ariza last year.


    Another factor: the only contract that comes off the books clean next summer is Mo Taylor. Both Roses have player opts, but would be insane to pass on more sure money than they'll get in FA. If they fill up to 15 players, they'll be in the same spot next summer, with draft picks to sign.

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    hey, the spurs sprung for that 3rd year, man. they didn't even do that for zo.

    desperate times.


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    I wish our owners were like Dolan.
    Never winning?

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    Jackie is only ONE of his finds, and he had no problem offloading Ariza last year.
    He only gave up Ariza to get Steve Francis, "his guy".

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    I wish our owners were like Dolan.
    Yes, because the Knicks are in such better shape than SA. wit.

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    Jackie is only ONE of his finds, and he had no problem offloading Ariza last year.


    Another factor: the only contract that comes off the books clean next summer is Mo Taylor. Both Roses have player opts, but would be insane to pass on more sure money than they'll get in FA. If they fill up to 15 players, they'll be in the same spot next summer, with draft picks to sign.

    A ray of hope; Robinson and Duncan could work with Butler every night to make him a billy bad ass. Course that's what I said about Rasho and Nazr too

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    Same a ol'l you, bash me out of nowhere.

    My nuts are that addictive are they? It seems you've never left.
    Don't flatter yourself.

    I bash you because I just got done reading all 8 pages and the only thing that sticks out is your re ed ass posts.

    I can't figure out who's you suck harder - Dusty's or Spurs management's.

    This is a lame lowball offer and a week from now we're going to be going and overpaying for Jarron Collins and you'll be on here telling us all how signing a scrub ass center in Duncan's prime is a brilliant move by the Spurs front office.

    Go back to Spursreport, at least for another five or six years until you ing grow up and find a brain.

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    He only gave up Ariza to get Steve Francis, "his guy".
    Who they're apparently trying to move now!

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    no duncan in the '97 draft and this forum is about the new orleans/oklahoma city gumbos. spare me the talk about the greatness of the spurs ownership group.

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    3-year, $7M, isn't that less than half the MLE? Kinda weird, unless they're giving Elson more than half the MLE they're not even using the whole thing...

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    The only ray of hope in this is that it's technically 14 million to the Knicks as they're paying dollar for dollar.

    Other than that, we're cheap and this team is ed at the five spot.

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    A 3-year, $7M deal works out to a starting salary of $2.15M with 8% raises. I'm surprised Butler went for it, actually. A number of teams were after him. Perhaps everyone else realized that the Knicks would match.



    What's scary is what happened to the other part of the MLE? The bigger part. Hopefully the Spurs didn't offer it all to Elson. That'd be $10.5M over three years or $7.3M over two years.


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    3-year, $7M, isn't that less than half the MLE? Kinda weird, unless they're giving Elson more than half the MLE they're not even using the whole thing...

    I would hope they just aren't spending it all. Giving Elson more money than Butler would be odd.

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    Question: Do the Knicks have to break into their MLE to sign him?

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    A 3-year, $7M deal works out to a starting salary of $2.15M with 8% raises. I'm surprised Butler went for it, actually. A number of teams were after him. Perhaps everyone else realized that the Knicks would match.



    What's scary is what happened to the other part of the MLE? The bigger part. Hopefully the Spurs didn't offer it all to Elson. That'd be $10.5M over three years or $7.3M over two years.

    look on the bright side, the spurs didn't have a draft pick this year and they have no way to land a big capable of playing perimeter defense. also, no malik rose!!!!!


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    The contract is believed to be worth about $7 million over three years.
    Too vauge. And its the NYPost... not the most reliable source.

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    Question: Do the Knicks have to break into their MLE to sign him?
    no. he's an early bird rights free agent.

    3 years/$7 mil. way to throw down the gauntlet and land a promising young bigman.

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    Question: Do the Knicks have to break into their MLE to sign him?
    No, they have his bird rights.

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    I would hope they just aren't spending it all. Giving Elson more money than Butler would be odd.

    and i predict a majority of spurs fans would defend it to their death.

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    n3 years/$7 mil. way to throw down the gauntlet and land a promising young bigman.


    Hey, it's better than the 2-year, $3M offer they gave to Zo

    Next perhaps the Spurs will offer $10M to a free agent.

    Naw, let's not get crazy. This is the Spurs, after all.

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    For some reason in all the articles I read, it doesnt say he signed the offer sheet.

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