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    The answer is finding PF's/C's who can guard Dirk, or at least turn him into more of the jumpshooter that he is.
    This would work, as it is putting Bowen on Dirk that causes the problem in the first place. As a matter of fact if All-Defense Team Tim Duncan could find the skill to play Dirk on defense they would be able to put Bowen on Howard and most likely win.

    God knows why they haven't tried that .. makes sense to me. they wouldn't need the athletic SF then

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    For as great as Tim is on defense he's not built to guard quick big men ... he does his damage against bigger, more methodical players and as a help defender. Making him guard a perimeter oriented big man would wreak havoc with the interior defense.

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    He knows a of a lot more about basketball than you do.
    Your view-point is always appreciated. How it is even a view is beyond me, but I lilke you ST name though.
    Hey now ... I try to avoid cut-downs.

    That was a first for me though ... maybe I will make it my signature "quoting myself" .... Sorry ... too funny
    Cut-downs are part of ST preamble. I have just had vast experiences with Mav trolls. That is all. If you don't become/are one, then you will do fine. They seems to have all disappeared after the finals. hmmmmm interesting. Fairweather times I guess

    And I quote myself all the time. Mostly to present a view that if clearly unobstructed if you know what I mean

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    This would work, as it is putting Bowen on Dirk that causes the problem in the first place. As a matter of fact if All-Defense Team Tim Duncan could find the skill to play Dirk on defense they would be able to put Bowen on Howard and most likely win.

    God knows why they haven't tried that .. makes sense to me. they wouldn't need the athletic SF then
    They've done that in the past, but Tim's mobility was compromised this year and perhaps more importantly Dirk became much more aggressive taking the ball to the hoop and drawing fouls. In the past he tended to settle for more Js so Duncan could do a decent job hanging with him, but this year Dirk would've driven it at him at will and probably got him into foul trouble.

    I think it could still be a decent option, but I'd save it for later in the game and only try it if Duncan had a few fouls he could afford to give.

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    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...4suns0714.html

    "Devean George and Jumaine Jones head the list of free agents Phoenix likes, as well as Marcus Banks, Chucky Atkins, Jannero Pargo, Tony Delk, Marko Jaric, Rasual Butler and Matt Barnes. Even with House, the Suns will add a true point guard."


    youre telling me spurs couldnt wait to get ANY of these guys (instead of vaughn)? :[ [ [ [ [ [

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    Damn the Suns are going to have 24 players!

    What depth!

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    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...4suns0714.html

    "Devean George and Jumaine Jones head the list of free agents Phoenix likes, as well as Marcus Banks, Chucky Atkins, Jannero Pargo, Tony Delk, Marko Jaric, Rasual Butler and Matt Barnes. Even with House, the Suns will add a true point guard."


    youre telling me spurs couldnt wait to get ANY of these guys (instead of vaughn)? :[ [ [ [ [ [
    Looks like the suns are trying to load up for another OFFENSIVE run and gun scheme. Those choices fit the description.

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    Devean George and Jumaine Jones head the list of free agents Phoenix likes, as well as Marcus Banks, Chucky Atkins, Jannero Pargo, Tony Delk, Marko Jaric, Rasual Butler and Matt Barnes. Even with House, the Suns will add a true point guard."
    Sheesh, are they going to sign all of them? I guess that would fix their bench problem

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    You'll must be on High Speed .... all I have is slow ass dial up

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    Jump shooting teams don't win championships. Up until this year, the Spurs defense forced teams into becoming jump shooting teams. The Miami Heat won the le by forcing the Mavericks into being a jump shooting team.
    Yeah they did. Not sure where the Mav team that beat the Spurs went to in the finals.

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    Unfortunately the "if you actually watched" card is about all you've got, because Dirk was about the same against the Heat as he was against the Spurs. Haslem had a shot blocker behind him. Had Bowen that luxury he could have actually spent all his time on Dirk instead of trying to stop the guards that were able to parade unmolested to the rim all series.
    Very true about the shotblocker being behind Haslem (especially when Zo was on the floor) but Haslem bothered Dirk more than Bowen did mostly cuz he got up a little bit higher to challenge his shots. But yes, if Bowen didn't have to help trying to stop the guards he'd have been able to spend more time on Dirk. Also, Dirk was getting more calls in the Spurs series than he was in the Heat series. The refs really let them play in the finals (outside of not being able to breath on Wade). The Spurs series was called much more tightly but I don't have to tell you that.

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    Hopefully since Dallas is paying Buckner all that money they'll play him and we can stick a big on him for some minutes, if need be.
    They won't play him as much against the Spurs unless one of your big man acquisitions can defend the rim against their quick guards. There's no point in not playing Harris & Terry together against the Spurs if Duncan is the biggest guy in the lineup.

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    . Manu keeping his hands to himself one play would've probably tipped the scales.
    Yep, as much as it felt like the Mavs controlled the series and the tempo of the play...if Manu hadn't ed up on that one play the Spurs would have still won. I attribute that to the Spurs being a championship team and somehow finding a way to win when they probably shouldn't IMO. I think they'll lose some of that edge against the Mavs going forward though.

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    If you can make defensive adjustments that lead to Greg Buckner shooting and penetrating against a defense with 2 bigs in there, then I'll my chances with that. :p
    You guys do know that Buckner may not even start don't you? If Harris continues to progress like he's been then he'll start at point with Terry starting at the 2.

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    Also, Dirk was getting more calls in the Spurs series than he was in the Heat series. The refs really let them play in the finals (outside of not being able to breath on Wade). The Spurs series was called much more tightly but I don't have to tell you that.
    I don't buy that. The Spurs weren't playing their game, they were out of position and learning on the run against a good team. They committed more fouls. There were bad calls, but no more than there usually are. The Spurs put themselves in a position this year where the officiating mattered, and that's their fault.

    I attribute that to the Spurs being a championship team and somehow finding a way to win when they probably shouldn't IMO.
    I agree completely. I thought the Spurs' heart was the only thing that gave them any chance in that series. That's why it pisses me off that people bad mouth Manu for the foul when he played his ing guts out just to try to keep up with what amounted to a much better team, yet so little blame goes to his coach for gutting the roster and throwing them out there.

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    The Spurs put themselves in a position this year where the officiating mattered, and that's their fault.
    I wrote the same thing after the Finals.

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    That's why it pisses me off that people bad mouth Manu for the foul when he played his ing guts out just to try to keep up with what amounted to a much better team, yet so little blame goes to his coach for gutting the roster and throwing them out there.
    Yeah, I don't understand why so many Spur fans have been so hard on Ginobli. He made a mistake and it was huge, but the guy has made so many great plays for the franchise that he should get a pass. If Dirk had made the bad foul the other way around that cost the Mavs the series there's no way I would have bad mouthed him for it.

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