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    PG:Parker,Udrih,Vaughn
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    *Offersheets need to be matched.

    Now, with Javtokas it appears like the deal with him is dead, and he will be heading over to Greece.

    The possibility of getting Elson is rather high at the moment especially since his own coach has spoken about how it will be hard to match Elson's deal and it will be hard to find a replacement for him.

    The possibility of getting Butler has improved over the past few days, with reports out of NY saying that it's more like 50/50.

    I can live with splitting the MLE with both of Elson and Butler because what Elson does good is run the floor, and I have no doubt Duncan can make him a bit better, but nothing to where we can expect double-doubles from him on a consistent basis. But, he is quick on his feet, hustles, and hopefully can get some offense going...because defense does not look like his cup of tea.

    Butler has the upside, grit down low, good hands, and low post efficiency. I like the demeanor he has, and he never quits down low and can be aggressive.

    I wish the Spurs would be able to get a little more youth at the wing position (maybe someone like Woods), but that does not appear likely via free agency....

    However, if Butler does not end up a Spur, we still have the other half of the MLE and that changes the dynamics of things, so the could then make a push for a young wing with the rest of the MLE.....

    If that occurs, Jackie would then be back in NY, and Woods would be available or even someone like Ariza or even Butler out of NO.....

    What do you guys think? Comfortable with the roster?

    It doesn't look great, but if a team can come together and mesh.....you never know what can happen.....
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    You are speaking of now, so you might as well take out Butler and Silver Star's future star player.

    As of now, the Spurs Roster is COMPLETE GARBAGE, reletively speaking

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    What do you guys think? Comfortable with the roster?
    Absolutely not. I'm fairly disgusted by it.

    I understand getting Bonner. Get rid of Rasho. Sure. But if Bonner starts, we're losing .500 of our games. He ain't much of a player. Williams is nothing more than a contract.

    Elson can play physical and is fast or something. He was also one of the worst performers in the playoffs last year. If he's all we get out of this offseason, this will probably be the worst offseason in Spurs' history.

    If we get Butler, I feel much better about things. It means we have stolen a very young big man with a very bright future. Excellent.

    I don't like that we screwed up the Scola situation, but understand how difficult it was. I can't stand that we screwed the pooch on the Javtokas situation. Not living in SA, I don't go to local games. Otherwise I'd be waving the Lithuanian flag and taunting both R.C. and Elson for every crap play and foul he committs. That's my right as a fan.

    If we don't manage to trade for a young wing, we're utterly screwed.

    The roster is putrid. After the Three plus Bowen, plus Finley, we're in wretched shape. Barry and Horry are in quantum decline.

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    Seems pretty solid...

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    Seems pretty solid...
    For a car wash.

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    i agree spurs still need to get younger and more athletic at the 2 or 3. Hopefully a trade is in the works with barry or williams departing.

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    Absolutely not. I'm fairly disgusted by it.

    I understand getting Bonner. Get rid of Rasho. Sure. But if Bonner starts, we're losing .500 of our games. He ain't much of a player. Williams is nothing more than a contract.

    Elson can play physical and is fast or something. He was also one of the worst performers in the playoffs last year. If he's all we get out of this offseason, this will probably be the worst offseason in Spurs' history.

    If we get Butler, I feel much better about things. It means we have stolen a very young big man with a very bright future. Excellent.

    I don't like that we screwed up the Scola situation, but understand how difficult it was. I can't stand that we screwed the pooch on the Javtokas situation. Not living in SA, I don't go to local games. Otherwise I'd be waving the Lithuanian flag and taunting both R.C. and Elson for every crap play and foul he committs. That's my right as a fan.

    If we don't manage to trade for a young wing, we're utterly screwed.

    The roster is putrid. After the Three plus Bowen, plus Finley, we're in wretched shape. Barry and Horry are in quantum decline.
    All this x10

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    You forgot Melzer....

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    You forgot Poland!!

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    Did I or did I just not want to acknowledge that signing.

    Seriously, the Spurs did not need to do that, but whatever.

    But, you're right...he's on the roster.

    The team does not look strong.

    Thinking trade is alot to ask for when talking about the Spurs. Knowing they already did one this summer, and hoping for a second one to bring in a wing is asking way too much....I wouldn't hold my breath.

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    Since sucking is not involved in car washing, what will Melzer's role be?

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    Since sucking is not involved in car washing, what will Melzer's role be?
    Hold the towel? He has extremely long arms. It's one of his 'talents.'

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    But, you're right...he's on the roster.
    He's not, unless you are going to expand our roster to 28.

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    He's not, unless you are going to expand our roster to 28.
    That's an idea, like when King Kong Bundy took on all those midget wrestlers...

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    Well, te ally he is on the Roster right?

    I mean, he can get cut....but isn't part of the deal guaranteed?

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    Absolutely not. I'm fairly disgusted by it.

    I understand getting Bonner. Get rid of Rasho. Sure. But if Bonner starts, we're losing .500 of our games. He ain't much of a player. Williams is nothing more than a contract.

    Elson can play physical and is fast or something. He was also one of the worst performers in the playoffs last year. If he's all we get out of this offseason, this will probably be the worst offseason in Spurs' history.

    If we get Butler, I feel much better about things. It means we have stolen a very young big man with a very bright future. Excellent.

    I don't like that we screwed up the Scola situation, but understand how difficult it was. I can't stand that we screwed the pooch on the Javtokas situation. Not living in SA, I don't go to local games. Otherwise I'd be waving the Lithuanian flag and taunting both R.C. and Elson for every crap play and foul he committs. That's my right as a fan.

    If we don't manage to trade for a young wing, we're utterly screwed.

    The roster is putrid. After the Three plus Bowen, plus Finley, we're in wretched shape. Barry and Horry are in quantum decline.

    Agreed with everything you just said yet people think what we got is enough to win the le! However... I am going to keep my trust that the front office knows what they are doing and that they replace most of these nbdl scrubs and get some actual quality for once. Believe!

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    Well, te ally he is on the Roster right?

    I mean, he can get cut....but isn't part of the deal guaranteed?
    So put all 28 on there then.

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    I am also not thrilled with the current roster but that it "sucks" or is "trash" is a little bit over- reacting. If the Spurs get Butler/ Elson it is not that bad, Rasho and Nazr also did not play that much of a role.

    They kind of "traded" Rasho/ Nazr for Bonner/ Elson/ Buttler and I don't see how a 63 win team is going to be a bad team because they got rid of 2 C's that did not play much. The rotation will be:

    Butler/ TD/ Horry/ Bonner
    Bruce/ Manu/ Finley
    Parker/ Vaughn

    That is NOT a bad team.. but it might not be good enough to win it all though


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    Agreed with everything you just said yet people think what we got is enough to win the le! However... I am going to keep my trust that the front office knows what they are doing and that they replace most of these nbdl scrubs and get some actual quality for once. Believe!
    I didn't mean to suggest the Spurs could win the championship this year. I mark them as savvy 2nd rounders that simply run out of steam. And in that round won't be as compe ive as last year.

    I don't trust this front office. Not anymore. I think they're getting chintzy and it's really hurting.

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    I get you now, Dumper.

    I didn't read the length of the Meltzer article.

    It was just a summer league signing......the first lines make it sound like he had secured a roster spot for two years.

    Thanks.

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    Add Butler, Elson, and either Woods, Ariza, R. Butler, and we are NBA Champs for sure. Add either Butler or Elson and one of the aforementioned SF's, and we are definitely in the running for the le. The Spurs are without two players that didn't play in the series vs. Dallas, and we still lost that series and likely the NBA championship with a 15-second span. They added Bonner, Williams and will likely add at least two of the players mentioned above...what the problem is?

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    Ah, Rasual Butler is the answer! But what was the question?

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    Well, to even consider Woods or Butler from New Orleans, Butler for NY would have to be matched because I doubt Elson is matched, and I doubt Bulter (NO) or Woods would come to the Spurs for the LLE.

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    The SF will have to come by trade. Hence my sarcastic mentions of a Barry + cash + 1st rounder trade for Rasual Butler.

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