Completely unrelated to the draft, I am shocked youre so confident this President would or would not do anything he so chooses.
Just wait, Iran will up worse than they are (supplying guns/etc to "insurgents" in Iraq), we might be "terrorized" again, and you'll be surprised how fast the sheeple hit their knees with mouth agape begging to him to do something.
I hate people, in case you couldnt tell.
I don't think any mistakes were made. By Bush or
Congress. And Bush is sticking by his decision. Some in
Congress aren't. Of course some in Congress cant even
satisfy their Left wing group.....like Pelosi who now has
an opponent more left leaning than she is.
Sorry, guys - it's not a partisan issue for me. I completely supported Bush 1 in the Gulf War and Bush 2 in Afghanistan.
Those were the right fights in the right places.
This invasion and occupation was not. And it was made worse because it was done in a half-assed, incompetent manner.
Plain and simple.
None of your whining about Pelosi is going to change any of that.
Wow... You've really developed a hatred towards me. I must have hit a few nerves.
We all have some bias.
I am a traditional liberal in many aspects, especially when it comes to being open minded. Today's liberals are not traditional liberals.
I don't care how smart you think I am. You just cannot be civil, can you?
Nope. You should look it up better. I am closer to a conservative libertarian. We are on opposite sides with neocons when it comes to spending especially.
I know what it means and I like the traditional definition more than the modern. I don't like the term because it is one that keeps changing definitions over time.
Yes, the ones that respond to neocon hacks.Wow... You've really developed a hatred towards me. I must have hit a few nerves.You care immensely about how smart you think you are.I don't care how smart you think I am.No, it doesn't.I know what it means and I like the traditional definition more than the modern. I don't like the term because it is one that keeps changing definitions over time.
Refrain from questioning other posters' love of this country or beating your chest and proclaiming yourself some kind of Uberamerican and I'll consider it.You just cannot be civil, can you?
Medstudent are you really a medstudent or are you a troll pretending to be a med student, because the stuff you say a normal troll would not got out of his way to post.
My reasoning behind my confidence is because we're already so caught up in Iraq and the adminstration knows they have f'ed up with this war, because none of the allegations have been brought out to be the truth, so it would be borderline crazy to start a war with Iran because of the current status, unless if something drastic were to happen. I don't know the entire story of Iran providing/funding AQ fighters in Iraq and haven't seen anything in the news, because I haven't paid attention to this situation with Iran.
Never underestimate Bush's limits or sanity. Too many people have.
So I say things like "As long as there is progress and hope. Us true Americans will support the efforts. The rest of you can suck each other off." and you think I'm wrong? Should we bail out as long as we have hope and progress? Is that what a true American will do? Sure, I could have left that last sentence off, but as a vetran I find people like you very offensive.
My statement, and the two above it in posing #12 were in response to the tone of the prior ones. It doesn't matter if you believed before we started our actions in Iraq were right or wrong. We are there now and must remain committed to keep Iraq from going into real chaos as long as it is possible.
Anyone advocating we leave them to their own demise is flat out evil if they understand the consequences. What message would that tactic send to the world about us?
Re-read my posting #12 and try to see it from a neutral view.
Post #12
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"Mistake were made, but that's not important right now..."
That will be the epitath of the Bush years. The sum total of their unrepentant folly.
That isn't determined yet so please state such things as opinion. Iraq can still come out as a positive thing. I can agree that president Bush has made some other mistakes that will be detractors for the future. I don't see this war as one of them. Wars are not easy, mistakes are inevitable.
Ever hear of a perfect war?
One may know how to gain a victory, and know not how to use it.
One doesn't have to be a minion to be a true american. But you wouldn't understand.
Ever hear of a pyrrhic victory?
Because that's the best possible outcome for your pet war.
What, nothing about the message we've already sent the world?
are you that ing stupid?
That's a poor example. This has not been devistating for us.
Well, believe what you want. Minion? I'm far from that. I'm just not a defeatist like apparently many here are.
Wonder how 'cut and run' talk would go over with Spurs players when they are haveing a less than victorious game?
Just to add. Our Civil War was a pyrrhic victory. Not only did we lose horrific numbers of lives, but the south should have never attacked the north after seceding. They successfully seceded, then started a war. How stupid is that?
I believe that if they stayed seceded, then after a few years, the north and south would have worked out the states rights issues, and we wouldn't have the super large federal government like we do today.
There are times I wish the south had won. With victory of the north, we lost the intent of states rights in our cons ution.
Slavery was just one issue under states rights I'm sure it would have evolved after time as well, and we probably wouldn't have the same animosity we have still today.
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Ever hear of a horribly planned and executed war and occupation?
This is it.
There are no perfect wars, but this one has been exceptional in the number and scope of the errors committed by the Bush administration, the civilian occupation leaders and the generals. You can't gloss over it by saying -- well, nobody's perfect, so no one should be held accountable. Neocons want all the "fun" of war without the responsibility.
Feh, read any post from a neutral view.
You can't.
You're a demagogue. Live with it.
If basketball players and fans start getting blown up at Spurs games and the team decides to play on, you'll have a valid point.
Not being a prick here, seriously, I understand what youre saying, but thats the improper spelling.
Its "secession". So, in useage, its "...successfully seceeded..." for example.
LOL... Ooopps...
Should I fix it or leave it?
---added---
OK, I fixed it.
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editing vanity
Just have to provoke things huh?
It's striking how many conservatives sympathize with the Confederacy. And you guys wonder why African Americans distrust the Republican party.
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