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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Nah, that was Stefan Lefors.

    VY finished 54th in '04.

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    Too weird to live, and too rare to die. midgetonadonkey's Avatar
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    How? Did I say anything about black when naming those QBs? You did. So yourself. You are looking at the skin color. I was just mentioning run first QBs, like your boy Vince. Steve Young and Starbauch could actually throw a ing pass. That's why they weren't mentioned. It had nothing to do with color. So you are a ing racist prick that looks at skin color first.

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    How? Did I say anything about black when naming those QBs? You did. So yourself. You are looking at the skin color. I was just mentioning run first QBs, like your boy Vince. Steve Young and Starbauch could actually throw a ing pass. That's why they weren't mentioned. It had nothing to do with color. So you are a ing racist prick that looks at skin color first.
    That's true, Midge likes the blacks.
    He hates the Jews and the Arabs, but he likes the blacks.

    Until the NFL is rampant with Jews and Arabs, Midge will be race free.

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    Oh wait, mobile black quarterbacks can't win, but white ones can.

    Get a clue.

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    Leinart just pulled because he sucks.

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    Leinart just pulled because he sucks.
    Kurt Warner is a god.

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    Baltimore 26, Arizona 23
    Baltimore 26, Arizona 23

    Preview - Box Score - Recap

    By DAVID GINSBURG, AP Sports Writer
    September 23, 2007

    AP - Sep 23, 5:23 pm EDT
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    BALTIMORE (AP) -- Steve McNair was ailing. Matt Leinart was awful. So Kurt Warner and Kyle Boller engaged in an unexpected fourth-quarter duel that wasn't decided until the game's final play.

    After Warner rallied the Arizona Cardinals from a 17-point deficit, Boller moved the Ravens into position for a 46-yard field goal by Matt Stover as time expired, giving Baltimore a 26-23 victory Sunday.

    The Ravens (2-1) led 20-3 at halftime and 23-6 entering the fourth quarter, but wilted in the final 15 minutes in a second straight game. Although the New York Jets never did pull even one week earlier, Warner rallied the Cardinals (1-2) to a tie at 23 with 1:50 left.

    Leinart was sacked only once but received pressure on almost every throw. The second-year quarterback went 9-for-20 for 53 yards before being replaced for good by the 36-year-old Warner, who also made a brief appearance in the first half.

    The Cardinals had used Warner in no-huddle situations in practice, and first-year coach Ken Whisenhunt decided the veteran was the best man to engineer the comeback.


    "We were down three scores and we knew that was the best way to move the ball quickly," Whisenhunt said. "It wasn't a situation where Matt lost a job. It was Kurt did better with this package."


    Boller entered in the fourth quarter for an ailing Steve McNair. After the Cardinals pulled even, Boller went 5-for-5 for 32 yards to get the Ravens in position for Stover's winning kick.

    "You just try and put your mind in a place where hey, it's showtime," Boller said. "I'm warm, the body is warm. Just go through it and take one play at a time."

    The Ravens benefited from a questionable personal foul call on safety Adrian Wilson, who was called for a high hit on Todd Heap at the end of a first-down pass.

    "We had an airborne receiver hit by a defender, who we called launched into him, and he had a blow above the shoulders into the head area," referee Jerome Boger said.

    Warner went 15-for-20 for 258 yards and two touchdowns. His favorite target was Anquan Boldin, who had a career-high 14 catches for 181 yards.

    "I'll take the win over the numbers any day," Boldin said.


    AP - Sep 23, 5:16 pm EDT
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    Baltimore led by 17 late in the third quarter before Warner got to work. He went 6-for-6 for 72 yards in a drive that ended with a 5-yard touchdown pass to Boldin.

    After a punt by Baltimore, Warner took the Cardinals 54 yards in two plays: a 22-yard completion to Larry Fitzgerald and a 32-yarder to Boldin with 10:19 left.

    Warner completed the comeback on Arizona's next series, moving the Cardinals 64 yards in 10 plays before Neil Rackers kicked a 41-yard field goal to tie it.

    "I think I was very fortunate to be in this situation," Warner said. "This is one of those teams that tries to keep you on your heels and second-guessing. When we got into the no-huddle we were able to force their hand a little bit."

    Back after missing last week's game due to a groin injury, McNair went 20-for-27 for 198 yards and led the Ravens to scores in three of their first four possessions. But Baltimore coach Brian Billick called for Boller to start warming up with the Ravens up 23-6, and the quarterback entered after Warner put up Arizona's first touchdown.

    McNair could have continued, but Billick said, "I could tell he was favoring it a little bit. I was worried about fatiguing; that's when an injury comes. It was time to put Kyle in so it didn't go further."

    Willis McGahee finished with 98 yards rushing on 21 carries, and Derrick Mason had eight catches for 79 yards and a touchdown.

    Stover kicked four field goals and moved past Norm Johnson into fifth place on the NFL career scoring list with 1,745 points.

    Arizona fell behind 20-3 when rookie Yamon Figurs gathered in a punt and cut to his left en route to his first NFL touchdown. Figurs is playing for B.J. Sams, who is out for the season with a knee injury.

    The Ravens got field goals on their first two possessions. Warner entered on Arizona's third series, after Leinart went 2-for-6 for 10 yards, and moved the Cardinals in position for a successful field goal.

    McNair answered with a 70-yard drive, connecting with Mason on a 13-yard touchdown pass.

    Leinart returned with a three-and-out, which led to Figurs' 75-yard return.

    Notes

    Ravens CB Samari Rolle was inactive because of illness. He was replaced by Corey Ivy. ... Arizona RB Edgerrin James' 27-yard run in the first quarter was his longest since joining the Cardinals in 2006. ... Stover has 416 career field goals, third most in NFL history.

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    How? Did I say anything about black when naming those QBs? You did. So yourself. You are looking at the skin color. I was just mentioning run first QBs, like your boy Vince. Steve Young and Starbauch could actually throw a ing pass. That's why they weren't mentioned. It had nothing to do with color. So you are a ing racist prick that looks at skin color first.
    staubach has a career 57% completion ratio and an 83% passer rating. Randel has a 60% completion ratio and a 82% passer rating. I'll give you a pass on racism and just give you stupid.

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    I'll give you a pass on racism and just give you stupid.
    I'm sure he's okay with that.

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    Another solid week by Vince Young, while Matt Leinart gets benched... LOL

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    Another solid week by Vince Young, while Matt Leinart gets benched... LOL


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    Another solid week by Vince Young, while Matt Leinart gets benched... LOL

    The ans are your #3 team aren't they?

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    The ans are your #3 team aren't they?
    Just cuz Vince Young is proving all you idiots wrong, don't go taking it out on other people. Just accept his supremacy and move on.

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    The ans are your #3 team aren't they?
    In fact, they are, and have been for a long time, since they were initally from Houston, and they were my #3 team, being from Texas. I was quite pleased when they drafted Vince Young.

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    In fact, they are, and have been for a long time, since they were initally from Houston, and they were my #3 team, being from Texas. I was quite pleased when they drafted Vince Young.

    I'd make fun of you for having so many teams to root for, but frankly, I don't see it as necessary.

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    I'd make fun of you for having so many teams to root for, but frankly, I don't see it as necessary.
    lol, Jay Cutler

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    I'd make fun of you for having so many teams to root for, but frankly, I don't see it as necessary.
    I also root for the Eagles, Falcons, Panthers, Rams, Patriots, Colts, Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Browns, Bucs, Steelers, Chargers, Chiefs, Seahawks, 49ers, Ravens, Bengals, Jaguars, Texans, Packers, Redskins, Lions, Giants, Vikings, Bears, Cardinals, and Saints.

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    lol, bust

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    Ummm, Cutler has a better rating then Young so far this season.


    lol.

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    Ummm, Cutler has a better rating then Young so far this season.
    passer rating, the be all end all of any QB discussion. Joey Harrington's 90.6 rating says hi.

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    I also root for the Eagles, Falcons, Panthers, Rams, Patriots, Colts, Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Browns, Bucs, Steelers, Chargers, Chiefs, Seahawks, 49ers, Ravens, Bengals, Jaguars, Texans, Packers, Redskins, Lions, Giants, Vikings, Bears, Cardinals, and Saints.

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    Ummm, Cutler has a better rating then Young so far this season.


    lol.
    His rating is 1 point higher, and he has thrown more picks than TDs, unlike Young.

    And here are the stats that matter most...

    VY - 10-6

    Cutler - 4-4

    And then, give VY the all around talent that Denver has, and he is probably 13-3, maybe 14-2. Let's see how good Cutler is when his recievers drop half of his passes because they suck so bad.

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    His rating is 1 point higher, and he has thrown more picks than TDs, unlike Young.

    And here are the stats that matter most...

    VY - 10-6

    Cutler - 4-4

    And then, give VY the all around talent that Denver has, and he is probably 13-3, maybe 14-2. Let's see how good Cutler is when his recievers drop half of his passes because they suck so bad.

    No, here are the stats that matter most.....

    VY 2-1

    Cutler 2-1

    Plus, this "would of, could of" about give VY the talent blah blah blah is ridiculous. It is what it is and the team around him is what it is.

    If you're going to go that way, then Joe Montana wouldn't be one of the all time greats if his team wasn't so good. Emmitt Smith wouldn't have the record if his O-line wasn't so good. Jerry Rice wouldn't have been as good if his QB wasn't so good, etc. etc.

    The argument is weak and flawed.

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    passer rating, the be all end all of any QB discussion. Joey Harrington's 90.6 rating says hi.

    Ok, so then what should we go by?

    Wins? Each player is 2-1.

    Yards? 795-426

    Completion percentage? 65.3 - 62.7

    If you guys would stop sucking VY's for five minutes, you'd realize that he's really not that great.

    Plus he'll get injured soon enough and become yet another inconsistant running quarterback.

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    No, here are the stats that matter most.....

    VY 2-1

    Cutler 2-1

    Plus, this "would of, could of" about give VY the talent blah blah blah is ridiculous. It is what it is and the team around him is what it is.

    If you're going to go that way, then Joe Montana wouldn't be one of the all time greats if his team wasn't so good. Emmitt Smith wouldn't have the record if his O-line wasn't so good. Jerry Rice wouldn't have been as good if his QB wasn't so good, etc. etc.

    The argument is weak and flawed.
    You obviously missed the point. The fact is, Cutler has a far superior team, and still can't win as much as Vince Young does. And when you compare who is a better QB, you don't compare them by their current stats or records. According to your logic, Josh McKown is equal to Donovan McNabb and better than Drew Brees. Or saying that Jeff Garcia is equal to Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

    What is it that makes guys like Montana, an all-time great? Because of his great winning percentages and rings. If we judged him by his last season alone, then he must not be an all-time great, because that is basically what you are saying, that you are only as good as your last season.

    You truly are an idiot.

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