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true, i've wondered this for a while.
plus donnie has been horrible as a GM.
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true, i've wondered this for a while.
plus donnie has been horrible as a GM.
Funny you should say that considering the Suns got all the way to the WCF when Amare went down.
Now Dirk goes down and Mavs fans are in a disgusting state of self-pity.
I guess they should have kept Nash, huh Findog?
btw - not having Dirk shouldn't be an excuse considering the Mavs were losing to everyone and their brother BEFORE Dirk went down.
Also - How many of you thought of me when Bill Simmons dubbed Avery Johnson "the over-coacher"?
Remember when I was saying how much he over-managed and how it hurt his team? You guys defended and defended him until your faces turned blue. NOW you guys all want him fired!!!
You guys really need to start listening to me.
i liked you better before Kori owned you and your old name.
No you didn't. I was saying all the things Im saying now. Its just now I've been vindicated and you guys look stupid.
yawn. you've become a tired self-parody now. too bad your real name got banned.
If I were weak sauce like yourself, I could very well do that if I wanted.
However listing stuff on paper won't show the joy of watching Bo jackson carry the Boz across the goal or the horror of watching him carted off the field. It won't show you the embarrasment from the Robo QB experiment. It won't show how you ask yourself every year why we are starting some other team's backup from last year. You can't see the question about how you got killed by the Bills in the conf game or why S was originally fired. Or even wondering why we can go from the SB to winning 4 games the next year.
So, yeah, I could be like you. Lucky for the rest of us, I ain't.
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
And why shouldn't they have? Amare's not your best player, and you beat two crappy LA teams to get there. I like how you act as if there's some huge gulf between Phoenix and Dallas, when there's 4 games separating them in the loss column, which is a smaller gap than between Boston and Detroit. And given how tight and compe ive the West is this year, Phoenix would be in the same boat as Dallas if Nash had sprained his knee and ankle - sinking and headed towards the lottery. That's what happens when you're simulataneously three games away from both the top seed and the 9 spot. You said enjoy the lottery and I will - we'll be getting a useful player at 14 while the Suns once again enjoy a playoff exit thanks to ty defense.
No, Mavs fans realize they can't do major damage in the playoffs without their best player. What a shocking concept!Now Dirk goes down and Mavs fans are in a disgusting state of self-pity.
Yeah, since we've gone further without him and got better without him, and actually had bigs that can defend the Duncans and Mings of the league. Yeah, horrible mistake. Good luck getting past New Orleans (Paul), Utah (Deron), San Antonio (Parker), Detroit (Billups) or Boston (Rondo) with Nash there to "stop" dribble penetration.I guess they should have kept Nash, huh Findog?
The Mavs were losing close games to elite teams and curbstomping bad ones, which is not far off from what Phoenix has been doing with Shaq.btw - not having Dirk shouldn't be an excuse considering the Mavs were losing to everyone and their brother BEFORE Dirk went down.
Bill Simmons and da_suns_fan: basketball expertsAlso - How many of you thought of me when Bill Simmons dubbed Avery Johnson "the over-coacher"?
Nobody has been sucking his since he got worked by Nellie and Riley.Remember when I was saying how much he over-managed and how it hurt his team? You guys defended and defended him until your faces turned blue. NOW you guys all want him fired!!!
For comic amusement, no doubt.You guys really need to start listening to me
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My favorite prediction from Bill Simmons: Basketball Expert was when he called last year's Suns "historically good" and said they would be better than the Showtime Lakers.
It's no surprise that dsf would take his cue from the Sports .
I agree that the West is tough, but the way Dallas imploded BEFORE Dirk went down was just...well....dallas maverick-esque!!
And while you give yourself kudos on getting a useful player at 14, remember that the Suns will (at worst) be getting a useful player at 15 via Atlanta. Suck on that, Fin-Doggy!!
Really? You think I haven't been monitoring this board? You guys were calling your team finished LONG before Dirk went down. Should I bring up the game thread where your team was 25 down to the Kobe-less Lakers? Your posts, in particular were quite pathetic.
It has nothing to do with Dirk's recent injuries. You guys FOLDED just as quickly as your team does.
LMAO! Your owner goes out and mortgages the future for pass-first point guard with leadership capabilities when he already let STEVE NASH walk away for half the price of Jason Kidd! Has there ever been a bigger blunder?
Right. Only the Suns have beaten Boston, San Antonio and Houston since Shaq arrived and Dallas can't even beat the bad teams anymore.
Laugh all you want, but I claimed that Avery over-managed a long time ago, and as soon as Simmons dubbed him the "over-coacher", YOU and your buddies all jumped on the "avery over-coaches" bandwagon. IVE SEEN the game threads!Bill Simmons and da_suns_fan: basketball experts
You heard it from me first. You accepted it when Bill Simmons blogged about it.
That must have been another obnoxious fan base last summer who was claiming what a great coach he was.
You provide me the comic amusement as well. I loved your recent anti-Suns posts that have come out of nowhere. You know, how you can "handle" anyone winning it except the Suns. Or how the Mavs arent winning it but neither are the Suns and thats all you care about. Or how you start threads calling Amare dumb.
Im glad to see my team causes you so much anguish.
Hey Findog...if the Suns win the championship, promise me you won't shoot yourself. Im sure you'll respond with "they won't", but just promise me you'll remember that its just a game and its suppose to be fun when Nash holds up that trophy and the Mavs look even worse (if thats possible).
failI agree that the West is tough, but the way Dallas imploded BEFORE Dirk went down was just...well....dallas maverick-esque!!
And while you give yourself kudos on getting a useful player at 14, remember that the Suns will (at worst) be getting a useful player at 15 via Atlanta. Suck on that, Fin-Doggy!!
Really? You think I haven't been monitoring this board? You guys were calling your team finished LONG before Dirk went down. Should I bring up the game thread where your team was 25 down to the Kobe-less Lakers? Your posts, in particular were quite pathetic.
It has nothing to do with Dirk's recent injuries. You guys FOLDED just as quickly as your team does.
LMAO! Your owner goes out and mortgages the future for pass-first point guard with leadership capabilities when he already let STEVE NASH walk away for half the price of Jason Kidd! Has there ever been a bigger blunder?
Right. Only the Suns have beaten Boston, San Antonio and Houston since Shaq arrived and Dallas can't even beat the bad teams anymore.
Laugh all you want, but I claimed that Avery over-managed a long time ago, and as soon as Simmons dubbed him the "over-coacher", YOU and your buddies all jumped on the "avery over-coaches" bandwagon. IVE SEEN the game threads!
You heard it from me first. You accepted it when Bill Simmons blogged about it.
That must have been another obnoxious fan base last summer who was claiming what a great coach he was.
You provide me the comic amusement as well. I loved your recent anti-Suns posts that have come out of nowhere. You know, how you can "handle" anyone winning it except the Suns. Or how the Mavs arent winning it but neither are the Suns and thats all you care about. Or how you start threads calling Amare dumb.
Im glad to see my team causes you so much anguish.
Hey Findog...if the Suns win the championship, promise me you won't shoot yourself. Im sure you'll respond with "they won't", but just promise me you'll remember that its just a game and its suppose to be fun when Nash holds up that trophy and the Mavs look even worse (if thats possible).
Im taking another leave of absence from this board.
Keep your chin up Mavs fans...and stop creating threads about how much your team sucks! No one CARES!!!
DSF out!
is that what you called getting banned?
Yeah, posting a winning record with Kidd and losing close games to elite teams, just like Phoenix! Yeah, that's a real "implosion."
lol, if you don't sell the pick. Cheap-ass Sarver.And while you give yourself kudos on getting a useful player at 14, remember that the Suns will (at worst) be getting a useful player at 15 via Atlanta. Suck on that, Fin-Doggy!!
There's no way Dallas is going to win four straight series without HCA. They needed to get a top four seed to do major damage in the playoffs. That homestand killed any chance that Dallas would get a good seed.Really? You think I haven't been monitoring this board? You guys were calling your team finished LONG before Dirk went down. Should I bring up the game thread where your team was 25 down to the Kobe-less Lakers? Your posts, in particular were quite pathetic.
My team isn't doing anything with its coach holding them back. He played Kidd 27 minutes against the Lakers. He pulled him for the final play against San Antonio. He played Dampier 12 minutes last night when Damp has demonstrated he can be effective against the Warriors. The Mavs showed heart by rallying to almost overtake the Lakers. Most, but not all of their problems start with the guy barking on the sidelines. Next year we'll be back in contention if Cuban has the common sense to get a real head coach.You should know something about ty coaching -- you think the Suns are coming out of the West with D'Antoni riding his top 6 guys for 40+ minutes a game all year long?It has nothing to do with Dirk's recent injuries. You guys FOLDED just as quickly as your team does.
Why was letting Nash go such a mistake? I don't get it. He can't play defense, he broke down every year in the playoffs and got outplayed by Tony Parker (how has that worked out for you, btw?) and we got a big who can guard the paint with his salary slot. We got better without him and went further without him. It would've been nice if he had signed with an Eastern team instead of strengthening a fellow conference team, but how is that a mistake? Can you explain that again without slobbing Nash's and overrating him?LMAO! Your owner goes out and mortgages the future for pass-first point guard with leadership capabilities when he already let STEVE NASH walk away for half the price of Jason Kidd! Has there ever been a bigger blunder?
Pierce/Allen shoot 3-23. San Antonio was in the midst of losing 6 of 7 and playing their worst ball of the year and Houston didn't have Yao Ming. What bad teams has Dallas lost to? Because if you knew what you were talking about, the Mavs have killed the crap teams and lost nailbiters to the elite ones. Why are you on here talking after your team just failed its biggest test of the season? Losing to the Pistons in Detroit without Rip and then whining like little es about the officiating? And then not being able to guard an empty gym against the Celtics? You may have traded for Shaq, but it looks like the same old Suns to me.Right. Only the Suns have beaten Boston, San Antonio and Houston since Shaq arrived and Dallas can't even beat the bad teams anymore.
Laugh all you want, but I claimed that Avery over-managed a long time ago
and as soon as Simmons dubbed him the "over-coacher", YOU and your buddies all jumped on the "avery over-coaches" bandwagon. IVE SEEN the game threads
Yeah, we take our cue from the Sports . The same guy who called the Suns "historically good" and said they were approaching "hallowed ground"?
Whatever you say.You heard it from me first. You accepted it when Bill Simmons blogged about it.
Oh, with all of his faults, he's still a better coach than D'Antoni. Maybe you confused that with us somehow defending Avery after he was worked over by Nellie and Riley.That must have been another obnoxious fan base last summer who was claiming what a great coach he was.
Well, Amare is dumb, is he not? Shaq, D'Antoni are asses, are they not? You are the epitome of the Suns fanbase, and not Jmark, ODM and Xylus, are you not?You provide me the comic amusement as well. I loved your recent anti-Suns posts that have come out of nowhere. You know, how you can "handle" anyone winning it except the Suns. Or how the Mavs are winning it but neither are the Suns and thats all you care about. Or how you start threads calling Amare dumb.
Why would I worry over a hypothetical scenario? Even if you somehow manage to avoid New Orleans, Utah, San Antonio and LA and make it to the Finals, you won't beat Detroit or Boston.Hey Findog...if the Suns win the championship, promise me you won't shoot yourself. Im sure you'll respond with "they won't", but just promise me you'll remember that its just a game and its suppose to be fun if Nash holds up that trophy and the Mavs look even worse (if thats possible)
Bass could possibly be the most one-dimensional player in the league. He is part of why this team is so bad. Taking out Dampier and putting Bass is ing horrible for this team. I would take Malik Allen over Bass as backup power forward. He at least has some understanding that basketball isn't all about scoring.
What would you say was worse? Enduring the yearly faliures of guys like Andrew Walter, Kerry Collins, etc... or the 2 years of Bill Callahan, and watching this team go from and elite superbowl contender, to an underachieving pile of garbage, and seeing us lose the superbowl because he was stupid enough to keep the same playcalls from previous years under Jon Gruden?
Oh, and you forgot Rick Mirer, lol
Yea, its been a tough few years as a Raiders fan... I think it was a lot more frustrating to see their fall due to piss-poor coaching under Callahan, considering how much talent they still had (oh, and then another 2 years before that, of getting cheated out of consecutive SBs with the bull "tuck" game, and then Siragusa's BS cheapshot at Gannon. But I think they are about to come back to life. They have a good amount of talent, especially on D... it all depends on Russell. If he pans out, they could have a of a team here soon.
Anyways, being able to remain faithful to the Raiders, you have my respect as a fan. If you can gut it out through crap like they have been through the past decade or so, then you gotta be a damn good fan. I know its been tough for me... but I'm happy to see them finally getting some good talent in there again.
Feel free to come back when we kick you out of the Playoffs, *again*
The Phoenix Suns: Where bringing Mavs and Spurs fans together happens.
Excellent Post
I still disagree with your assessment of Dirk, but well, we can all have our opinions. What bothers me is that the thread gets derailed out of topic when we were just having a normal conversation.
It's especially bothersome when a Phoenix fan who made a disappearing act as soon as his team was sucking reappears to talk trash.
Not that they won jack yet.
Anyways. What's your take on Cubes? Do you see him going the cheap way and trying to offload as much as he cans? or do you see him overpaying again to get some supporting cast for Dirk and Kidd?
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