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SpursTalk's Top 50 Spurs
1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
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4. Gregg Popovich
5. Angelo Drossos
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To pass the time until the start of preseason, let's see how SpursTalk.com ranks the Top 50 Spurs. Those eligible for the list include all players, coaches and owners. I don't want to define "top" too narrowly, but I think the best way to do it would be to think of the list as a list of the 50 most influential people who have helped make the Spurs one of the most successful franchises in the history of sport.
For more information on what we are doing, check out this thread.
In this thread, we will vote for spot number 11. Please place your vote. If you will, also explain in this thread why you voted how you did.
Thanks.
P.S.
Poll options listed in alphabetical order. If you want to vote for someone not on the list, post in the thread and I'll add the person.
Voting will end 2AM CST Wednesday morning.
Please vote only once.
Gilmore
I went with Larry Kenon.
I'm leaning toward voting for Avery Johnson. His impact on the 1999 championship can't be understated. He's the all-time franchise leader in assists.
I'll go to bat more for AJ tomorrow but I'm pretty confident in this pick.
dude you serious?
i prefer mario elie though....
AJ's impact to the franchise is much more evident
Elie was one of the mental leader during the 1999 championship, as was AJ.
He (Johnson) played more then 7 seasons in spurs uniform while Elie just two.
Ellie's going to be lucky to brack the top 25
Kennon or AJ. Its tough for me and I currently hate AJ.
I voted for the A-Train!
Kenon vs. Gilmore stat comparison would be interesting.
One thing that clinched me going with AJ over Kenon was the fact that the Spurs were better the year before Kenon arrived and the year after Kenon left. That doesn't say much for Kenon to help a team beyond his stats.
AJ over Kenon is like Barbosa over Manu. Kenon who single handedly led Memphis State to the NCAA championship game. Who does have an ABA championship to his resume. Who played for the Spurs at near the tail end of his career and still averaged 20 and 10. They made the playoffs all but one of his years, so what if they lost to the eventual champions a couple of times.
That's my case. Kenon by a mile. AJ ahead of Kenon makes this a non basketball related thread.
Alvin Robertson
He's a good pick. I would go Kenon at 11, Gilmore at 12, and then Alvin at 13. AJ would come in at about 15 or so.
Holt.
Without him we're very likely discussing the New Orleans Spurs.
Not anywhere close to a similar comparison.
Since when are we counting what players did at other stops? If that's the case, I'm voting for Moses Malone or Dominique Wilkins.
What?
Tail end of his career? Kenon arrived in San Antonio when he was 23 and left when he was 27. Try again.
Again, the Spurs were better the year before Kenon arrived than the year he arrived. And they were better the year after Kenon left than his final season in SA. Great numbers and I've already called him the most underrated player in Spurs history stat-wise ... but there is a reason his number isn't retired and there is a reason why the Spurs proved to be better without him.
Saying Kenon came to San Antonio at the tail end of his career shows how much you know about Kenon. And I realize Spurs fans have gotten crybaby about AJ because he coached the Mavs but AJ was the player-coach behind the 1999 championship. Pop even admits that AJ did more to coach that team.
I realize it is an uphill climb to get AJ on this list because either modern day Spurs fans weren't Spurs fans in '99 or started hating him when he coached the Mavs but AJ was greatly important to the Spurs in terms of going from a team that won a lot of games to a team that actually won a championship. Any Spurs player or coach of that era will tell you the same.
Gotta go Kenon over AJ
Robert Horry- for 2005.
It was a close call between him and Malik.
Now it comes down picking my favorite people on the ballot.
For me, all the obvious standouts (from purely a basketball standpoint) have already been ranked.
Boo- I should have voted Kenon to keep him ahead of Avery.
AJ hater.
I don't hate A.J.
It is just that ever since he became coach of the Mavericks, I want nothing more than to see AJ lose.
I love to see him lose.
AJ hater.I love to see him lose.
talent wise it's even worse.
Not anywhere close to a similar comparison.
The insinuation by some, maybe not you, is that Larry is not a winner when in fact he was part of many winning teams including the Spurs. I think you're splitting hairs with the differnces between the success he had with the spurs compared to the years before and after.Since when are we counting what players did at other stops? If that's the case, I'm voting for Moses Malone or Dominique Wilkins.
first off, being 30 back then is like 36 now a days.What?
Tail end of his career? Kenon arrived in San Antonio when he was 23 and left when he was 27. Try again.
So you are blaming him. Please explain why you blame him? What did he do as compared to the rest of the team and coaches that made him responsible for the slight differences?Again, the Spurs were better the year before Kenon arrived than the year he arrived. And they were better the year after Kenon left than his final season in SA. Great numbers and I've already called him the most underrated player in Spurs history stat-wise ... but there is a reason his number isn't retired and there is a reason why the Spurs proved to be better without him.
maybe not the tail end, but when he left he was close to being done from what I remember, but if you have looked it up I stand corrected.Saying Kenon came to San Antonio at the tail end of his career shows how much you know about Kenon.
Pop was brutal as a coach early on. I loved Avery as a player and leader, but truth is he wasn't that talented. A team with Young Timmy and good DRob and all the other talent they had was bound to be successful. In fact, they win with Terry Porter at the helm that year.And I realize Spurs fans have gotten crybaby about AJ because he coached the Mavs but AJ was the player-coach behind the 1999 championship. Pop even admits that AJ did more to coach that team.
Ah.. No the luck of the ping pong balls had way more to do with it.I realize it is an uphill climb to get AJ on this list because either modern day Spurs fans weren't Spurs fans in '99 or started hating him when he coached the Mavs but AJ was greatly important to the Spurs in terms of going from a team that won a lot of games to a team that actually won a championship.
Avery's cred got him the job, so I'm aware of what people thought of him. I'm also aware that he didn't leave on the best of terms and he turned out to be a puss in Dallas with all that whining. Since Avery needs to get in based on more than his ability to play basketball, those dinks against his reputation do count.Any Spurs player or coach of that era will tell you the same.
I hate the pick of AJ at 11, but oh well.
I will continue to vote for Rob till he gets in.
Peter Holt. Great owner who doesn't with his team like Cuban but leaves the job to the professionals he has hired.
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