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    Damn The Man Mr. Peabody's Avatar
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    Ok, the thread le is a little much.

    Evidently, the Republican candidate for Vice-President believes that Alaska should vote on whether to secede from the U.S. ABC News has confirmed that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party in the 90's.
    Members of 'Fringe' Alaskan Independence Party Say Palin Was a Member in 90s
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    The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., likes to herald the independence of its new running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

    Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.

    And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."

    Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.

    "We are a state's rights party," says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."

    She says it's not accurate to describe the party as secessionist -- they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.

    "My own separate opinion as an individual is that we should be an independent nation," Clark says. Others in the AIP "believe that being a commonwealth would be a good avenue to follow." Some advocate statehood -- but a fuller statehood than exists now.

    She doesn't know what Palin's position was.
    The platform of the party is as follows -
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    The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were en led to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:

    1) Remain a Territory.
    2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
    3) Accept Commonwealth status.
    4) Become a State.

    The call for this vote is in furtherance of the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party's founding father, Joe Vogler, which was for Alaskans to achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences.
    Here is a clip of a discussion at the AIP State Convention. The Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, says this of Palin:
    Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected. There’s a joke, she’s a pretty good looking gal, there’s a joke goes around we’re the coldest state with the hottest governor. And there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town – that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along – she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an 80% approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership.
    Statement starts at 6:00


    In this clip Dexter Clark, the Vice Chairman from the AIP talks about the necessity of infiltrating the major national parties in order to further the goals of the AIP.



    I don't know how much there is to this, but it is interesting that in this clip, when Palin is asked about the possibility of becoming VP, she responds "We wanna make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans, and for the things we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the US, before I can even start addressing that question." (statement at 3:50)



    I guess Governor Palin only wants to be VP only if it's a good thing for Alaska.

    The Alaskan Independence Party can be summed up in just two words:
    ALASKA FIRST!

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    Marilyn Rae Lover jochhejaam's Avatar
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    was once a member of their party
    End of Story.




    Stay tuned as Peabody will next exhibit that he can link Sarah Palin to Kevin Bacon in 5 steps.

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    so? i like texas more than any other state
    I like Texas too, but I'm not advocating for us to be our own nation.

    This is like having one of the Republic of Texas guys running for Vice-President.

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    Thanks for proving she has more international experience than Obama...

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    The EARLY diggings on Palin are unearthing a lot of stuff. There's probably lots more to come.

    She wouldn't be the first VP pick to be forced to withdraw. Harriet Meiers II.

    McSame has screwed up in the SAME way that dubya screwed up.

    Again, picking her says a lot more about McFlummoxed's risky, unvetted, critical executive decisions than it does about her, who would as irelevant and ignored like most other VPs.

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    Palin: Trying to start her own country in 1992

    Obama: President of the Harvard Review in 1992

    No contest...

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    Palin: Trying to start her own country in 1992

    Obama: President of the Harvard Review in 1992

    No contest...
    Ha. Nice.

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    End of Story.




    Stay tuned as Peabody will next exhibit that he can link Sarah Palin to Kevin Bacon in 5 steps.
    So she's a flip-flopper?


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    So she's a flip-flopper?

    Apparently she is. I'm surprised it took this long for her to earn that le <and I had to play a part in it, ugh>

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    lmao the political forum is so great today. The conservatives are scrambling and its quite entertaining to watch.

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    Ladies and gentlemen, we're watching something historic. I don't know if this woman lasts the rest of the week. It's perfectly amazing.

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    lmao the political forum is so great today. The conservatives are scrambling and its quite entertaining to watch.

    , I've seen it as just the opposite. The libs have absolutely blown a gasket over this woman, and are scouring the 4 corners of the earth to find something to attack her with.

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    , I've seen it as just the opposite. The libs have absolutely blown a gasket over this woman, and are scouring the 4 corners of the earth to find something to attack her with.
    I guess they didn't have to go very far. It's only been 72 hours since the announcement.

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    I guess they didn't have to go very far. It's only been 72 hours since the announcement.
    And about 71 more hours than the McCain campaign bothered to put into researching their potential VP pick.

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    Bringing up a politician's past=Obama's worst nightmare

    If you're an Obama supporter then I suggest you stay away from all the candidate's pasts.

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    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
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    It's been coming out like a geyser. It's so fast I'm not sure anyone knows what to do with it.

    The RNC and hurricanes may cover it up, but damn.

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    Bringing up a politician's past=Obama's worst nightmare

    If you're an Obama supporter then I suggest you stay away from all the candidate's pasts.
    was a member of his church.

    End of Story.

    - signed, jochhejaam

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    Ladies and gentlemen, we're watching something historic. I don't know if this woman lasts the rest of the week. It's perfectly amazing.
    Other than the Daily Kos lie, there have been no surprises sprung on Palin. She's been in politics for a bit, so I would assume that she was prepared for the attacks she and her family would be subjected to <although for the life of me I don't understand why anyone would willingly put themselves in that position>


    Nothing historic here.

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    I guess they didn't have to go very far. It's only been 72 hours since the announcement.
    Please let me know if you come up with anything important.


    "Oh noes! Palin was a former member of the Alaskan Independence Party! Oh noes!"


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    William Airs, Professor Kalidi, Toni Resko, Reverend Wright, the mysterious birth certificate, Frank Marshall Davis being an identified member of the Communist Party USA and being a close mentor of Obama in Hawaii.

    I would guess all the candidates have had associations they now regret.

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    So liberals encourage francophones to have Quebec separate from Canada, encourage East Timor to separate from Indonesia, Biden wanting to par ion Iraq into three separate countries, but it is wrong for Palin to once believe in Alaska independence. What hypocrisy!

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    Lying now about The Bridge To Nowhere

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...upporters.html

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    Sara is somewhat inexperienced, but check out this voting record in congress. This guy wont take a stand on anything.

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...o000167/votes/

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    William Airs, Professor Kalidi, Toni Resko, Reverend Wright, the mysterious birth certificate, Frank Marshall Davis being an identified member of the Communist Party USA and being a close mentor of Obama in Hawaii.

    I would guess all the candidates have had associations they now regret.
    Is William Airs related to my Nike Airs? Or my Obama Airs?


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    i want those shoes.

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