im surprise vinny is still on the board....
Allan Bristow
Antoine Carr
Antonio Daniels
Bob Hill
Brent Barry
Cliff Hagan
Chuck Person
Cotton Fitzsimmons
Coby Dietrick
Dale Ellis
Dave Corzine
Dave Greenwood
Dennis Rodman
Derek Anderson
Edgar Jones
Fabricio Oberto
Frank Brickowski
Gene Banks
George Johnson
Hank Egan
Jaren Jackson
Johnny Dawkins
John Lucas
Larry Brown
Michael Finley
Mike Brown
Mike Budenholzer
Mike Gale
Nazr Mohammed
Paul Griffin
PJ Carlesimo
Rasho Nesterovic
Rich Jones
Rod Strickland
Sam Presti
Stan Albeck
Steve Kerr
Swen Nater
Terry Porter
Tom Nissalke
Vinny Del Negro
Walter Berry
Will Perdue
SpursTalk's Top 50 Spurs
1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
3. George Gervin
4. Gregg Popovich
5. Angelo Drossos
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Tony Parker
8. Sean Elliott
9. James Silas
10. Bruce Bowen
11. Larry Kenon
12. Avery Johnson
13. Alvin Robertson
14. Johnny Moore
15. RC Buford
16. Artis Gilmore
17. Peter Holt
18. Mike Mitc
19. Bob Bass
20. Malik Rose
21. Robert Horry
22. Red McCombs
23. Doug Moe
24. Terry mings
25. Mario Elie
26. Willie Anderson
27. Billy Paultz
28. Robert McDermott
29. Stephen Jackson
30. Mark Olberding
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To pass the time until the start of preseason, let's see how SpursTalk.com ranks the Top 50 Spurs. Those eligible for the list include all players, coaches and owners. I don't want to define "top" too narrowly, but I think the best way to do it would be to think of the list as a list of the 50 most influential people who have helped make the Spurs one of the most successful franchises in the history of sport.
For more information on what we are doing, check out this thread.
In this thread, we will vote for spot number 31. Please place your vote. If you will, also explain in this thread why you voted how you did.
Thanks.
P.S.
Poll options listed in alphabetical order. If you want to vote for someone not on the list, post in the thread and I'll add the person.
Voting will end 2AM CST Tuesday morning.
Please vote only once.
im surprise vinny is still on the board....
Gene Banks, Stan Albeck, or Steve Kerr.
I'm probably going with Albeck on this one but Brent Barry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Kerr.
timvp, it's probably time to add Cadillac Anderson to the list.
And I partially agree with TDMVPDPOY. Vinny is the best remaining player.
The 31st place should go to Mike Budenholzer, Stan Albeck or Vinny.
My vote goes to Stan Albeck.
for some reason I didn't see Brent on the list. I agree, Brent is a possible.
Budenholzer has been on the bench with Pop on all 4 championship rings campaigns... He knows the system like no one else does and knows what Pop is trying to accomplish without even asking or needing to double check, basketball wise and when building relationships with the players as well.
I still don't get why people do not consider him on a higher status since his contributions have always been solid, he has always been close the players, to the ones developing and the veterans as well.
His leadership could be seen on display this past summer league when he was on Mahimni's face after the got outplayed by other guys etc.
He should be the next one. Lame he didn't break the Top 25
Vinny Del Negro? Are you kidding me? Vinny shouldn't be on the list. What did he ever accomplish during his Spurs tenure to even warrant mentioning here? He was a slow, soft, inconsistent shooter, who repeatedly choked in the clutch - despite having numerous opportunities. This guy was a huge liability on the court because he was a horrific defender. He did absolutely NOTHING as a Spur and should he even get mentioned here, it will greatly undermine the integrity of this list.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 09-15-2008 at 08:44 AM.
On the all-time Spurs' list Vinny is:
14th in games played
11th in minutes played
16th in points scored
28th in total rebounds
11th in assists
15th in steals
Who's your choice?
I hope Oberto and Finley read this poll, get the message and get the out of town.
I would put Presti above Budenholzer. Being non-players, their contributions are more nebulous however my feeling is that Presti added new ideas and energy to the FO, whereas Bud, though he worked hard, was more of a just a good soldier who did what they told him. If anyone has specific Bud stories about his accomplishments other than being on the team and being a good worker, then please add them.
I think the best remaining are: Rodman, Presti, Albeck (though if we throw him out there Cottonball should be considered afterwards), Strickland, Vinny, Dietrich, Barry, and the "Flying Helicopter".
Finley
I know Barry fans will complain but Finley played much better than Barry in 06 and 07 Playoffs.
I like Barry but before him I vote for Finley
Empty rankings to say the least. It doesn't diminish the "negative" effect of his presence.
As far as who could go next? Stan Albeck, George Johnson, Rod Strickland, or even Dancin' Harry. Take your pick. Anybody but this guy.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 09-15-2008 at 05:35 PM.
I don't see how this is anyone other than Albeck. Then again, I've been arguing for about a week that Albeck and Moe are largely indistinguishable and don't really understand how Albeck could fall almost 10 places behind Moe.
I just noticed that I accidentally voted for Presti when I meant to vote for Albeck.
This is still going on?
At this point, Barry's around the world trey to win game 2 against the Kings in '06 first round alone should get him this spot.
Since you suggested putting Rodney on the list above Vinny, it proves to me the failure of your logic enough to inspire a vote for Del Negro. I've got to give you credit for not suggesting someone ludicrous like Barry should be on the list ahead of him.![]()
Outside of the top 30, it's quite hard to decide who should be selected.
There have basically below average player whose main quality is to have played a long time with Spurs, some assistant coaches and some good players who have played few time with Spurs without having a great impact.
I don't think there is enough quality players/coaches/GM to make a top 50.
It's a shame you don't lead by example
terry mings was a below average player????
I'd pick Dancing Harry over Del Negro in a second. Then again, I'd take Steve Smith over him too.
@ Barry and Vinnie over Stan Albeck.
I know it won't be popular, but I voted for Bob Hill. We had some good teams with a lot of wins while he was our coach, and despite his shortcomings he deserves at least some of the credit for that. At spot #31, that's enough for me to vote for him ahead of role players like Brent Barry.
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