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    i'd like to shed a little optimism on our past presidents. who do you think is the most underrated president in our history?


    to start off, i'd have to say Woodrow Wilson.
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    Truman

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    Truman has gotten his due the past decade or so.

    I'd go with Eisenhower for modern presidents.

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    Bush is pretty underrated...isn't he.

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    to start off, i'd have to say Woodrow Wilson. although he was an isolationist, i think he was the most practical president. ironically, he necessarily shifted his policies during WWI and brought us onto the world stage - though the bas s in the opposing party halted most of his attempts
    wow

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    That's easy...Jimmy Carter...

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    W...it'll be 30 to 40 years before anyone realizes that he was the right president for this time in american history.

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    ...well, there goes any cred you had left...

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    John Tyler of course! He was so good he didn't even need to get voted into office (though I guess the same could be said of Dubya).

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    Without a doubt, John Quincy Adams.


    W might wind up being the guy depending on what happens in the Middle East over the next few decades.

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    That's easy...Jimmy Carter...

    How old are you Dan?

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    Without a doubt, John Quincy Adams.


    W might wind up being the guy depending on what happens in the Middle East over the next few decades.
    This probably.

    Noone ever remembers how important he was as a diplomat to france. Nearly as important as Ben Franklin.

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    John Tyler of course! He was so good he didn't even need to get voted into office (though I guess the same could be said of Dubya).
    Neither did Ford

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    Bush: "It's an adjustment, the fundamentals of our economy are strong." It's time for this traitor and his traitorous administration to shut their venomous mouths

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    That's easy...Jimmy Carter...
    ...well, there goes any cred you had left...
    exactly.

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    What's funny is that libs laugh about the surge and say it's a payoff...



    They must have never examined the detail$between the Egyptian and Israeli Peace Treaty...the only thing Carter did that wasn't an utter cluster .

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    That's easy...Jimmy Carter...
    Under "rated" dan, not underqualified!

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    Eisenhower and Clinton. Two presidents that were able to fend off the more radical elements of their own parties and find practical solutions for problems.

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    Eisenhower and Clinton. Two presidents that were able to fend off the more radical elements of their own parties and find practical solutions for problems.
    I never learned much about Eisenhower except to know he was a good president. As much as I disliked president Clinton's polices, he was definitely a leader. He knew how to use the charisma he has. Since the question doesn't specify what the underrated qualities are, I can say president Clinton is underrated. We conservatives hate is ideals, but do acknowledge he was among the best leaders.

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    Clinton's economic policies were conservative....centrist at worst.

    His liberalism was more evident in his foreign policy.

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    I never learned much about Eisenhower except to know he was a good president. As much as I disliked president Clinton's polices, he was definitely a leader. He knew how to use the charisma he has. Since the question doesn't specify what the underrated qualities are, I can say president Clinton is underrated. We conservatives hate is ideals, but do acknowledge he was among the best leaders.
    I know people say similar thing about Reagan.
    I did not like many of his policies, especially his economic but I will admit he had charisma and was very much a leader too. Although I think he was a little overrated in many people's view.

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    As time goes on, I think Clinton's "obsession" with eliminating the deficit (that's the word Alan Greenspan used in his recent memoir) will be more greatly appreciated. Whatever your political persuasion, it's hard to say he didn't accomplish his economic goals.

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    As time goes on, I think Clinton's "obsession" with eliminating the deficit (that's the word Alan Greenspan used in his recent memoir) will be more greatly appreciated. Whatever your political persuasion, it's hard to say he didn't accomplish his economic goals.
    And that was a conservative stance, as was balancing the budget.

    Rolling back the Capital Gains tax was a conservative position...the degreee to which he did it was conservative even by conservative standards.


    He also tightened the out of Welfare requirments to the degree that if a Republican had tried it he could have been accused of being the leader of the KKK.


    There was nothing liberal about Clinton's economic policy.


    Even the housing stance was high capitalism.



    Clinton talked like a liberal...but he governed like a conservatrive economically.


    He was able to do what he did because he was a Democrat...if he'd been a Republican and did the things he did he would have been called a racist etc.

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    clinton was a great politician. he was one of those guys who nobody says they vote for, but somehow he gets elected.

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    I voted for him both times, and was considering voting for Hillary just to get him back in the Whitehouse.

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