The good: Ginobili and Parker were terrific- what compe ors these guys are. Duncan was big time clutch in the fourth.
The bad: Rasho's offense was like watching a paraplegic attempt to salsa. I was getting goosebumps everytime he touched the ball. His defense wasn't bad though. Remember when Bruce Bowen could play defense? It's scary how easily guys are torching him lately. If this continues, his minutes need to go to Devin Brown. When Bowen is as useless as he was today on the defensive end, it makes no sense for him to be on the court.
The ugly: I'm sorry but I've given up on Brent Barry- dude makes Hedo Turkoglu look like Michael Jordan. Pop- trade his sorry ass now please, I've totally had enough with this soft that can't hit the broad side of a barn.
Time to shorten up the rotation.
I'm proud of my team today- they competed till the very end but the one-sided officiating was just too much to overcome. I rarely if ever blame the refs but this was a joke from start to finish. I mean Shaq had what- two fouls?! Are you kidding me?
I agree Rasho's offense was horrible, BUT, if he can keep that agressive shooting, the shots will fall, and the rest falls into place.
I agree, Bowen doesnt seem to be playing the D he used to either.
Barry? No comment, not enough minutes, didnt earn more. Im sure that will get me and you ripped for that.
I agree, Im proud of em too, they didnt have there game today, they didnt have there C game.
But they fought through it, and if Duncan has more than one leg, they win this game.
FG%
Barry: 428%
Brown: 416%
3pt%
Barry: 360%
Brown: 397%
(Barry takes nearly 2 more per game)
2pt%
Barry: 553%(leads the entire team)
Brown: 424% only Massenburg is shooting at a lower PCT from 2
So obviously...you are all mouth without a brain right now on this subject.
Barry gets 3 more mins per game by the way.
I think he meant Brown to take Bowen's minutes.
Not Brown take Barry's.
I love how dumbasses this means Walton and TPark...two of the biggest ever...
Find ways to about Barry after a loss when he's played only about 10 mins per game in our last two losss...
Your boy Devin has been the guy getting the minutes in the last two losses...so please shut the up and about someone that is actually getting minutes in those losses.
ing about Barry is just a step above blaming it on Linton Johnson III.
Dumb s...the combined brain power of you two ing clowns is just less than that of a squirrel turd.
And TPark stop ing about guys missing 3 pointers when your boy missed 15 ing wide open shots....
Brown's offense has started to suck. He's bcome indecisive on his outside and pull up mid-range shot. He's driving to the basket on everything and getting himself in some horrible situations.
When did I say anything about Brown over Barry? Learn how to read and then we'll talk about intelligence ok? I said that it wouldn't make a goddamn difference if we traded Barry for the lint in Shaq's bellybutton at this point. He's had his chances and with the exception of two good games out of 52, he's been a total and utter failure.
Give Devin Brown Bruce Bowen minutes and you'll see what this kid can do. He's also pretty damn good defensively.
I have to agree with Whottt on this one.
You can't blame the loss on a player that barely played, it's not as realistic as blaming it on a guy who missed 8 shots from the same spot.
And BTW, Shaq shot 75% today, high even by his standards..so don't go acting like Rasho's D was good enough to justify missing all those shots.
Last edited by whottt; 02-13-2005 at 04:35 PM.
Exactly.
Barry played bad when in there STFU.
Thats a fact.
Rasho stunk on offense when in there.
Thats fact, so stfu.
I agree, that Brent Barry has been a slight dissapoint ment.
another 1-4 day today, while just gliding around the court isnt gonna cut it.
He needs to make his open shots.
Brown on the other hand, has turned back into the Devin Brown of early last year, indecisive, and hesitant.
The good Devin Brown shoots with confidence and GOES.
I dont know what Devin's deal is.
[/QUOTE]Shaq shot 75% today
[QUOTE]
Goody for him.
How many times did they foul him and he made his free throws.
When he makes his free throws, hes literally the most unstoppable player in the world.
That simple.
lol,
no one is blaming THIS LOSS on Brent Barry.
Were just saying he played bad today.
Nothing about him LOSING the game today.
The Spurs not bringing there A Game lost the game.
Shaq shot 75% today
That doesn't change the fact that he shot 75%...what does FT's have anything to do with FG's
Goody for him.
How many times did they foul him and he made his free throws.
When he makes his free throws, hes literally the most unstoppable player in the world.
That simple.
Actually...Barry is statistically the best offensive player on the team...he's also second in PPS behind only Manu...who is third in the entire NBA.
I was all for starting Devin Brown...Give Devin Brown Bruce Bowen minutes and you'll see what this kid can do. He's also pretty damn good defensively.
Then a funny thing happened...Bruce is shooting at a better PCT than both of them.
I'm sorry but Devin makes some dumbass plays sometimes...no doubt it would improve with experience which is why I wanted to start him earlier in the season...but the fact of the matter is...it's too late in the season now and our losses all season long tend to be games where Devin gets the most minutes off the bench as the swing.
T Park- it appears that we're arguing with people that would make Stephen Hawking look like Brittney Spears- just forget it man.
Where in my post or in T Park's did we blame this loss solely on Barry? All I was eluding to is that it would be nice if our big free agent acquisition stoop up to the plate......
Barry has been a disappointment period. I expected there would be a number of games where he'd put up 20+ points and be the difference maker. So far I can barely think of a game where he carried the team. Even Hedo was better and Jackson miles abouve Brent. You can't lay it on anyone but Barry.
You're a really smart guy, a genius!........
What you fail to take into account about Barry...
#1.His PCT's aren't bad by anyones standards other than his own.
#2.You overlook his ability to pass and key the break without making dumbass turnovers...he is by far the best on the team in this category.
#3.He has been clutch all season long.
Just know the two biggest comebacks of the season...Phoenix and New Jersey....Brent Barry got minutes in the crunch down the stretch.
You guys that repeatedly bash him have a dim perception of the game...but by all means keep ing.
Hey dumbass, take a look at Barry's career numbers and compare them to this year's. He's playing for the best team he's ever played for, yet putting up his worst numbers.....you wanna explain that? I'm begging you.
Career FG%: 46.2
This year: 42.8
Career 3Pt%: 40.4
This year: 36.0
I'm waiting- and don't give me minutes played because they don't influence percentages- you either make the shots or you don't. The bottom line is that he hasn't fit with this team since day one. He was signed and he's been paid to be consistent from the outside and he's shooting 36%.
That doesn't cut it and we're not in December anymore.
What do you think it is?
You going to say he's choking?
Then I will direct you to the Detroit game...
I will direct to the Phoenix come back from the edge of oblivion...
I will direct you to the Nets game where he played ing Power Forward in that come back.
I'm really not that hung up on his minutes...but when you don't play him in the second half then don't expect his shooting PCT's to improve for that game.I'm waiting- and don't give me minutes played because they don't influence percentages- you either make the shots or you don't. The bottom line is that he hasn't fit with this team since day one. He was signed and he's been paid to be consistent from the outside and he's shooting 36%.
That doesn't cut it and we're not in December anymore.
The fact of the matter is Barry is now averaging a career low in minutes...maybe it is affecting his PCT's...
You guys act like he didn't hit anything today...he was 1-4
Get ing real...you don't think all players start out a game 1-4?
I was yelling at the television earlier in the season when Pop wasn't playing him, saying it's too early to judge and to let him play. Now, I can't stand to watch the guy.
I'll say it again, Brent Barry was brought in to be reliable from the outside. If you think about, he's got maybe the least responsibility of anyone on the team. Bottom line, he's not delivering- you cannot seriously argue with that.
At this point, on February 13, 2005, Brent Barry has less value to this team than Hedo Turkoglu did last year- does everyone agree? Need I remind how it turned out for Turkoglu. People talk about the .4 shot by Fisher. If Hedo Turkoglu had done anything- ing anything worth any significance in that series, it would have been us getting our asses kicked by the Pistons in the Finals.
rasho's shot looked like total ing garbage.
He's hitting 36% from three...
That's not ty...
And what you don't get is that there is more to Barry's game than being a spot up shooter...in fact I'd be willing to bet he wasn't much of a spot up shooter in Seattle...he was one of the focal points...
What's he's not doing is getting an opportunity in the second half lately...
Haven't you noticed that the only differences in our last two losses and all the other wins of the last month are that Pop is not giving Barry as many minutes and he's giving those minutes to Devin instead...
Tell you what...you go find all the times Devin has gotten more minutes than Barry in the past month...I think you will find them all to be losses for the Spurs.
And BTW, if Barry sucks in the post season...You'll have to get in line behind me to rip him...But we won't know how he's going to do until the post season.
Barry has been clutch this season...Hedo only hit like 1 clutch shot all of last season.
As for overall talent...of course Hedo's got more talent...Man, Hedo is a 6'10 freak with every skill in the book...but he was soft in the head...I don't think Barry is soft in the head. I think he gets off on taking high pressure shots while Hedo looked for a place to hide... Barry wants it and I think we'll find this out when it matters most....if he gets the chance.
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