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    .......i guess colin powell just made the list.

    how will his endorsement affect the vote from military bases?

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    .......i guess colin powell just made the list.

    how will his endorsement affect the vote from military bases?
    Probably not. Maybe some officer's votes.

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    The military is not as Republican as they would like you to think.

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    nah, the military is very strong republican. they also believe in having your people's back. powell proved he can't be trusted.. hey, it will probably get him another cabinet spot. i guess that is why he was called an uncle tom before.

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    nah, the military is very strong republican. they also believe in having your people's back. powell proved he can't be trusted.. hey, it will probably get him another cabinet spot. i guess that is why he was called an uncle tom before.
    your a complete bag, that was almost as bad as rush saying it was because they were both black

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    nah, the military is very strong republican. they also believe in having your people's back. powell proved he can't be trusted.. hey, it will probably get him another cabinet spot. i guess that is why he was called an uncle tom before.
    Nope the Military is not as Repub as they would like you to think. I would also like to hear how easy they make it to vote to those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. And how did Powell prove he can't be trusted, other than the whole UN/WMD's? Sounds like he was trustworthy and faithful to a fault.

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    The military is not as Republican as they would like you to think.
    I remember Dems saying that 4 years ago. 70 somethin percent went for Bush.

    I think Powell's endorsement may have some pull with independents but not so much with military members. He's always been veiwed more as an office general not a soldiers general. If Schwarzkopf had endorsed Obama then I think that would have had a much greater impact with active duty military.

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    I remember Dems saying that 4 years ago. 70 somethin percent went for Bush.

    I think Powell's endorsement may have some pull with independents but not so much with military members. He's always been veiwed more as an office general not a soldiers general. If Schwarzkopf had endorsed Obama then I think that would have had a much greater impact with active duty military.
    They make it very hard to vote if you are deployed or serving oversees. Almost to the point where it seems they are discouraging it (my opinion). Most Officers are Repubs, but a large number of EM's are not. It's just much easier for Officers to get access to things like that.

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    The anti/pro american remark is referring to two types of Americas. Each side loving a different one.

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    The anti/pro american remark is referring to two types of Americas. Each side loving a different one.
    Whaaaat??

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    There is a wide spectrum of value systems in America. The mainstream ever-encroaching liberal value system that is taking over and the more humble hard-working conservative value system found in most small towns.

    Each putting a different emphasis on different aspects of American culture. That's what she was referring to when she said anti-American/pro-American. One side has a view of what America should be while the other is chipping away at it taking it in a new direction.

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    I think he actually believes that.

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    There is a wide spectrum of value systems in America. The mainstream ever-encroaching liberal value system that is taking over and the more humble hard-working value system found in most small towns.

    Each putting a different emphasis on different aspects of American culture. That's what she was referring to when she said anti-American/pro-American.
    How is one pro-American and one anti-American?? She specifically said that small towns fight the wars and are pro America, while big city people don't fight for their country and are anti America. It's pretty obvious to me that she's saying people from metropolitan areas are not good Americans and want the country to fail. That sure is news to me.

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    I think he actually believes that.
    What do you disagree with?

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    I think he actually believes that.
    I sure hope not

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    What do you disagree with?
    How are big city people Anti-American and small town people Pro-American? Tons of big city people work hard everyday and fight for their country. I really don't see how one can be a good American and another a bad one.

    And what exactly are American values that are not practiced in the big city??

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    There is a wide spectrum of value systems in America. The mainstream ever-encroaching liberal value system that is taking over and the more humble hard-working conservative value system found in most small towns.

    Each putting a different emphasis on different aspects of American culture. That's what she was referring to when she said anti-American/pro-American. One side has a view of what America should be while the other is chipping away at it taking it in a new direction.


    If this is what Palin believes, she's more ignorant and polarizing than even the liberal media has portrayed her to be.

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    What do you disagree with?
    Your loaded characterizations for starters.

    Second, your assumption that you know what she's talking about when she doesn't even know.

    And just the general ridiculousness of it all. I can't believe you are such a willing sock puppet for people who really couldn't give less of a crap about you.

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    How are big city people Anti-American and small town people Pro-American? Tons of big city people work hard everyday and fight for their country. I really don't see how one can be a good American and another a bad one.

    And what exactly are American values that are not practiced in the big city??
    It's not big city small city. A small town "redneck" can be just as embarrassed that a big-city liberal is viewed as a represenation of America as the big-city liberal is embarrased by the small town "redneck". That's just an example.

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    It's not big city small city. A small town "redneck" can be just as embarrassed that a big-city liberal is viewed as a represenation of America as the big-city liberal is embarrased by the small town "redneck". That's just an example.
    Well that's exactly what Palin says it is. And what exactly are these American values that liberals are so against?

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    Your loaded characterizations for starters.

    Second, your assumption that you know what she's talking about when she doesn't even know.

    And just the general ridiculousness of it all. I can't believe you are such a willing sock puppet for people who really couldn't give less of a crap about you.
    A sock puppet? I'm just thinking outloud on an interview I heard earlier today discussing media focuses and what they don't talk about. You disagree that the liberal value system and conservative value system differ? You disagree that therefore one could view the other as anti-American because of the difference in which direction America should go in?

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    A sock puppet? I'm just thinking outloud on an interview I heard earlier today discussing media focuses and what they don't talk about. You disagree that the liberal value system and conservative value system differ? You disagree that therefore one could view the other as anti-American because of the difference in what direction America should go in?
    So basically if somebody disagrees with whatever values one has, they are Anti-American??

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    A sock puppet? I'm just thinking outloud on an interview I heard earlier today discussing media focuses and what they don't talk about. You disagree that the liberal value system and conservative value system differ? You disagree that therefore one could view the other as anti-American because of the difference in which direction America should go in?
    I don't think they differ as much as campaign managers and talk radio hosts and bloggers would like everyone to think.

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    So basically if somebody disagrees with whatever values one has, they are Anti-American??
    It's not THEY ARE, it's just simply they could be viewed as such by another party.

    I'm not thinking "anti-America" as in you hate America. I'm thinking of "anti-American" as in your ideologies are not a good representation of what "America" is.

    I'm basing this all off the 10 mins I watched of the view today while Joy was crying about being offended by the remark and then a later interview I heard on the radio that brought up the different value system discussion. I won't lie, I watch the beginning of the view every once in a while

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    Olberman on the Republican version of 'two-Americas'....


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