SO... who wouldn't you trade to get Ray Allen?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It looks from reading here and there that the Sonics are going to trade him prior to Thursday's deadline.

He'd be sick with Duncan on the inside kicking out to him for threes.

Would anyone be willing to say goodbye to Manu or Tony for him?

[T Park]

Id trade Ginobili for Ray Allen.


Someone that automatic from three point land on the Spurs would be disgusting.

I wouldn't trade Parker due to his youth.

Ginobili is 27 Allen is what 30 31??

Natural great shooters like him are good for years.

Steve Kerr, is one that comes to mind.


But is he clutch??

I think so.


I would package Ginobili whoever for Ray Allen.


Duncan Allen Parker Bowen Nesterovic is a of a good starting 5.


More than likely though Seattle is gonna want a great player back......



BTW, what the is wrong with seattle??

LOCK HIM UP, WHY ARE YOU GIVING UP ON THE SEASON LIKE THAT!!!


Without Ray Allen, Seattle may hang onto the division, but they are out in the first round vs a Houston Lakers or someone else.

Ray Allen is the reason that team is great right now.


Seattle is a band of idiots.

[Matrix]

Allen with TD, TP, Rasho, Bowen that would be scary....

[dollyllama]

Ray wants the cash, and Seattle is not going to pay him. He will be 30 this summer, and has had knee problems that caused a lot of missed time over the past few years. They're probably looking for some young talent, and thinking long term.

Someone that automatic from three point land on the Spurs would be disgusting.

Manu is shooting better than Ray both overall and from outside the arc. He plays some defense, too.

[passtheball]

Ginobili stock is rising, Ray Allen is not going to be as good in the future, bad trade, it looks good now but in the future NO WAY

[T Park]

Manu is shooting better than Ray both overall and from outside the arc

Stop right there.

Manu isnt HALF the shooter Ray Allen is.


Ray Allen is easily the most automatic shooter Ive ever seen in my lifetime.

I didnt get to watch Bird, but the closest I saw was Steve kerr.

Allen is THAT good.


Ginobili is clutch in the 4th, hes also great defensively.

But damn, Ray allen brings 24 freakin every NIGHT>

Ginobili prob would bring 16 then 12 then 20 then 13.


Allen under Duncan would be unreal.


Allen on a fast break with Parker and Brent Barry.

Look at this shooters galore.


Parker Allen Barry Brown Duncan


NOW THATS, a small lineup.


Save the Ginobili stuff Manu homers, Allen > Ginobili

THAT SIMPLE.

[passtheball]

Allen can't play defense like Ginobili also Ginobili will give up the rock to Tim.

[T Park]

Yeah Ray Allen wouldn't pick up on the defensive scheme of forcing your defender to Duncan and Nesterovic, thats sooo tough.

Also, Allen will pass the ball SIR, how do you think guys like Lewis and Daniels and Ridenour are scoring so well.

Cause Allen takes all the pressure off of them, and gives them the ball.

[TDMVPDPOY]

ray allen isnt worth $100million contract that he wants.

[Streakyshooter08]

It will never happen but it would be interesting to see Allen play next to Bowen.

[ShoogarBear]

Where are you reading that Allen's going to be traded?

I can't believe the Sonics are going to essentially give up on the year like that.

[Gummi]

As much as I love Allen's game, he's not comming to the Spurs this season or probably any season. Firstly, his contract. He wants the MAX and the Spurs aren't going to give him that because they can't afford it. Parker, Manu, and Duncan all are making major money and then add Rasho to that mix with his $6 mill a year. Just not going to happen.

Secondly, the Spurs don't have anybody to offer for him. The Spurs front office won't offer either Parker or Manu for him. And Tim is of course off limits. So after that we don't have anybody that the Sonics would even consider.

[td4mvp21]

They arent gonna trade Ginobili. They just signed him to a long contract. He does so much for the team and the fans LOVE him.

[ducks]

I would rather get boozer
all the studs would be young then
duncan would be the oldest

[SPURS21]

half of this forum is on crack

if we traded for ginobilli it would be so we could have Ray for maybe 6 months. Than he becomes a FA who wants a max contract, that is the reason Seattle is going to trade him. SA is not going to give him that kind of money, why would you break up a perfectly good team for one half season with Ray. Gino is signed to long term deal for relatively nothing. Ray Ray is only shooting 36% from the three point line this year and what about him and Bowen, you tihnk they will get along? Plus Ginobilli is a better defender

[picnroll]

Seattle's got a lot of good shooters, Lewis, Radmanovic, Daniels, Ridnour is coming on. Allen is superfluous particularly for the salary he wants and age. If they could get a nice young piece for him it would be a good move.

No way I trade Manu for Allen. Manu is Mr 4th Quarter Clutch, younger, a whole lot less expensive. Allen is a whiner too.

[SequSpur]

Manu is a hot dog.

[Nikos]

Allen would likely be an excellent clutch shot maker. With Duncan he would become more efficient.

But he is getting up their in age. But I HIGHLY doubt San Antonio would ever get him, and that Seattle would ever give him up given how well they are playing right now.

[Mark in Austin]

forget the Allen > Ginobili or Ginobili> Allen debates. The simple truth is that the Spurs would never pay Ray Allen 100 million over 5 years, which they would have to agree on before pulling the trigger, or they risk losing possibly the most popular Spurs player ever for less than half a season renting Allen.

The Spurs are not that stupid.

[indianspur]

half of this forum is on crack

and

[baseline bum]

Ray Allen in San Antonio would be so sick, but I just could never make any major trade to a team that's on pace for 63-64 wins while playing great basketball against the best. They're 5-2 against top 4 seeds in the West... a pace equivalent to 59 wins.... 11-6 against west playoff teams... a pace of 53 wins. Tell me that's not impressive to have that kind of winning percentage against the cream of the crop.

[Dre_7]

The only persons I would really trade for Ray Allen is Barry or Brown.

[dollyllama]

Manu is a hot dog.

And you are the bun.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It is an interesting dilemma, but let's be honest here - Pop would rather have outside shooters complimenting his inside game than slashers.

I too think, almost by default, we'd have to be sending out Ginobili - they've got Ridnour up there already so that makes Tony a non-factor.

I don't think there's any way the Spurs would trade Manu out for him. That said, as much as I love Ginobili, I think I'd have to do the trade if I could. Ray Ray is simply too good a shooter and creator and would be sick on the outside awaiting Tim's passes.

[Fizzzar]

Manu @ 52 M > Ray @ 100 M