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    David Beat Me Up :(
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    From the ESPN Insider's Winners and Losers:

    San Antonio Spurs: Everyone is going to focus on the big names that were traded, but perhaps the most important trade that went down was the Spurs acquisition of Nazr Mohammed for Malik Rose.

    The Spurs needed more size, toughness and athleticism in the middle. For all Mohammed's faults, he can do that when he's motivated. Head coach Gregg Popovich should be able to light the fire and give the Spurs yet another piece to propel them to the Finals.

    And did we mention that the Spurs saved more than $21 million on this trade? You've got to love Knicks GM Isiah Thomas, who now is officially running the NBA's biggest homeless shelter for bad contracts.

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    New York Knicks: Even Isiah's biggest fans are scratching their heads right about now. Isiah, itching to shake up his team some more with so many other Atlantic Division teams making moves, traded away his starting and backup centers and his two backup point guards for two under-sized, over-paid power forwards in Mo Taylor and Malik Rose.

    Is Isiah trying to start a team in a 6-foot-7-and-under league? Taylor and Rose join Mike Sweetney and Kurt Thomas as players who are at least a few inches short for their position.

    Thomas did pick up two extra draft picks in the deal – likely the 29th and the 30th picks. Way to go.

    But his most egregious sin was his repeated insistence in always taking back a bad contract or two with each trade. This time the Knicks added an extra $32 million in future salaries. In the Spurs' deal, the Knicks are sending out $5.5 million in future salaries and getting back the remaining four years, $27.3 million of Rose's contract. The Rockets' deal isn't as bad, as Isiah is sending out $8 million in future salaries and getting back $18 million. In total, the Knicks, who already have by far the largest payroll in the league, have just dug themselves further into the hole.

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    Damn, Isiah is complete dumbass.

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    Is Isiah trying to start a team in a 6-foot-7-and-under league? Taylor and Rose join Mike Sweetney and Kurt Thomas as players who are at least a few inches short for their position.
    Who will start for them upfront now?

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    IT just befuzzles the out of me.

    It's almost as if NYKs are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the NBA who exist solely to improve other teams.

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    Do they even have a guy on their roster who is considered a center?

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    Who will start for them upfront now?
    Sweetney and KThomas.
    Do they even have a guy on their roster who is considered a center?


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    Do they even have a guy on their roster who is considered a center?
    Herb Williams.

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    Ahh yes, Sundov. I forgot about his existence.

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    odelay Brunito.... lol

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    More Analysis:

    From CNNSI Marty Burns:

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    Malik Rose and two first-round draft picks (in 2005 and '06, respectively) for Nazr Mohammed and Jamison Brewer

    Why the Spurs did it: to dump Rose's remaining contract (four more years, $27.3 million) and add a decent backup center.

    Why the Knicks did it: to get the two first-round draft picks.

    Bottom line: The Spurs get some much-needed size off the bench for their le chase. The Knicks get another undersized power forward with a long-term contract. Thomas can only hope those draft picks prove to be worth it.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ax2/index.html

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    From Jack McCallum on CNNSI:

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    As for a thumbnail look at a few the other deals:


    Nazr Mohammad
    -- goes from New York to San Antonio in Malik Rose deal

    Think of your best dream ever. Now you know how Nazr feels. He wakes up one morning mired in the sinkhole that is the New York Knicks and by the end of the day he can start thinking about fitting himself for a championship ring. He's going to play, too. Already the best defensive team in the league, the Spurs pick up a shot-blocker. True, they lose a good citizen in Malik Rose, always a class act even as he sunk lower and lower in the Spurs' rotation. But the Spurs have other good citizens.


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html

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    Isiah was a brilliant player, but his cheese has obviously slid off his cracker.

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    The deal would be sweeter for the Knicks if the Spurs were actually evaluating the talent and selecting the 1st round draft choices for them in 2005 and 2006.

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    What changed in the Knick FO from last year that green-lighted the addition of another $30+ million in salary?

    The ouster of Fox from the ownership?

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    Isiah was a brilliant player, but his cheese has obviously slid off his cracker.
    A very succinct description of his post playing days.

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    I think there is a method to his madness, and he is trying to buil something, perhaps it will amount into something formidable

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    Yeah, formidable like my bathroom run the morning after scarfing down a 6 pack of Taco Bell tacos.

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    Another blind moron Marc Stein.

    Along with Charles Barkley, Kenny Smith, Ric Bucher, David Aldridge....



    All of em are TOTALLY wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I would feel better if T Park didn't like this deal....

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    You've got to love Knicks GM Isiah Thomas, who now is officially running the NBA's biggest homeless shelter for bad contracts.
    Classic.

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    I think Malik will help the Knicks, if he gets playing time.

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    Think of your best dream ever. Now you know how Nazr feels. He wakes up one morning mired in the sinkhole that is the New York Knicks and by the end of the day he can start thinking about fitting himself for a championship ring. He's going to play, too.
    Isiah: Nazr, come in here.

    Nazr: What's up, boss?

    Isiah: We're trading you.

    Nazr: Oh . (thinks of Atlanta, New Orleans, Clip joint)

    Isiah: We're sending you and Brewer to San Antonio for Malik Rose and some draft picks.

    Nazr: (internal happy dance) Damn. Well, you gotta do what you gotta do, Isiah.

    Isiah: I'm glad to see you taking it so well. I know this is hard for you.

    Nazr: (thinking about wearing shorts in February) Yeah, thanks.

    Isiah: We appreciate everything you've done for us.

    Nazr: (thinking of playing with Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili) Yeah.

    Isiah: Thanks for everything.

    Nazr: (thinking about hoisting the le trophy) Yeah.

    Isiah: You can go now, Nazr.

    Nazr: (thinking about river parade) Yeah.

    Isiah: NAZR! Get out of my office!!!

    Nazr: (thinking about being associated with a dynasty) OH! OK, I'm leaving.

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    Isiah: (to himself) Boy, he's really taking this hard.

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    I was saying last night....he's gotta be one happy mofo. Unless, of course, he's more interested in his address than earning all of that extra playoff win money.

    Last edited by SpursWoman; 02-25-2005 at 01:05 PM. Reason: His dress? lmao, maybe he WOULD be better off in NY

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    For all Mohammed's faults, he can do that when he's motivated. Head coach Gregg Popovich should be able to light the fire and give the Spurs yet another piece to propel them to the Finals.
    This guy sounds like a dog.

    I can't help but remember the last two "final pieces" that the Spurs got from the Knicks. (Charles Smith and Charlie Ward).

    Fate has a way of smacking you when you trade quality people for clock-punchers.

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