While Bill Schoening is very efficient and credible, I find him generic and vanilla.
Jay Howard, on the other hand, was memorable and passionate. While many people considered him arrogant on Sports Talk San Antonio, I think he was the best play-by-play voice in Spur history.
Your thoughts?
i vaguely remember Jay Howard, but from what i remember he was good. I remember my father liked him so much that when we would watch spurs games he would mute the TV and put on the radio to listen to Jay Howard call the games rather than the TV commentators.
I like Schoening. I find him to make the game very exciting to listen to and he also sounds very passionate about what he does.
Jay Howard was fired for a reason: because he wasn't that good.
Same thing on S.T.S.A. WOAI decided that Jeff Vexler, Walter Pasacrita, Jason Thompson and Rob Thompson couldn't carry Mister Taylor's jock.
WOAI and Ticket 760 have significantly upgraded themselves by firing the losers and elevating the winners.
Schoening is excellent, not sure someone could do better than him.
Jay who?
Jay Howard was good (if not the best) as a color man. BANG!!!
But Bill Schoening is my cup of tea... I dont listen to radio to hear color, I can see and hear that on TV any day. I listen to it (radio) for the play-by-play-no-bull commentary and he delivers.
Jay loots Keith Olbermann's bits for his schtick. Bang.
So many of you people are so young you can't remember Jay Howard.
Personally, I love Jay Howard. He reminds me of the guy in the the Mexican Beer commercials. He is a Man's Man.
To borrow a phrase from Chris Duel, Jay Howard is a "Golden God!"
Lets put it this way.... if Jay Howard was on TV commentating the Spurs with Sean I'd watch him vs listening to Bill. If Bill was doing commentating on TV.... it wouldnt work for me.
and Im tired of Chris Duel using the le "Golden God." I commented on it in a thread in the Club that he says it way too much.... Yeah he is right, he has only led like 6 people with it, maybe its just the way he says it or how many times he says it for the same person... it just gets freaking rediculous. It's like hearing some blonde chick say "and so like, okaayyy..." a million times for one statement. We get you want to blow his junk off Chris, calm the down and talk sports already.
This is a moot point, people.
WOAI fired Jay Howard for the more talented Bill Shoening. Just like they fired Jeff Vexler, Jason Thompson and Rob Thompson for the more talented Mike Taylor.
End of discussion.
Jay howard was a very good color man, remember he basically did the whole thing by himself where most teams have two guys doing their games.
But the reason Jay Howard was fired was he was an asshole, not just an asshole but an arrogant asshole. I was damn happy when he got the boot and I don't miss him one bit.
If I had to chose between Bill and Jay I'd take Bill every time, as good as Jay was no one is as good as he thought he was.
Jay was not a color man. I don't know where any of you all are getting that from. Jay was the play by play man, not the supporting guy, and he was great at painting the picture of exactly what was happening on the floor when you were listening to him.
Schoening sucks. Howard may have been a huge prick, but he was talented. Schoening is fingernails on a chalkboard bad, and everyone I know who isn't a Spurs fan agrees with me that he's awful.
That was lame as . I wonder how long he had that one planned? He should have left it on the drawing board until he could make it sound unforced; that call sounded so stupid. Not quite the memorable call of Jay going ing nuts screaming BANG! when Sean hit the three against Portland or when he announced "The pride of the great Lone Star State are NBA Champions!" as the buzzer sounded in Madison Square Garden.
Jay Howard was not only trite, but he was unoriginal. Bang? Really? "The pride of the great lone star state" is what they say at the beginning of the games, so he basically ripped off OAI for that one. Stupidity. The moment made the call great, but don't act like "fires an off-balance three: BANNNG!" is talent.
Being able to accurately portray what is happening to someone who cannot watch while getting fired up at the right times certainly is talent.Jay Howard was not only trite, but he was unoriginal. Bang? Really? "The pride of the great lone star state" is what they say at the beginning of the games, so he basically ripped off OAI for that one. Stupidity. The moment made the call great, but don't act like "fires an off-balance three: BANNNG!" is talent.
Jay Howard =
Its a shame WOAI stopped international listeners from listening.
never heard Howard... but i can tell you that Bill Schoening is probably one of my all time favorites...
you, that voodoo quote was hilarious, there's a reason it was put on the championship DVD.
And I'm going to assume by what I put in bold everyone who actually likes the Spurs disagreed with you. Who cares what non-fans think? Schoening is for Spurs nuts, period. If I got off too late from work I was more than happy to put my radio on 1200 AM, he was just awesome every time. I might be too young to remember Jay, but don't hate on my man Bill.
To me, it's not really that big of a deal. I only listen to the call on radio if I'm not in front of a TV, and 9 times out of 10 I'll be in front of a TV.
I guess if I had to choose I'd go with Howard, since he's who I heard first, but the difference isn't really that great.
WRONG!!
JAY WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS A PRIMADONA AND HE FINALLY RUFFLED THE WRONG PERSON'S FEATHERS.
I THINK JAY HOWARD WAS A HUGE PRIMADONA.
I DON'T LIKE HIM BUT HE DID CALL A GOOD GAME
I THINK BILL CALLS A GOOD GAME AS WELL BUT I STILL WOULD PUT JAY JUST AHEAD OF BILL ( AND I HATE JAY )
Last edited by Taco; 12-16-2008 at 12:17 PM. Reason: Grammer Grandma Grammer LOL
...don't get me started. Bill Schoening.
Schoening.
I never listened much to either one. Like Ive said for many years if on the TV or (radio even thou its been years since ive heard any game on the radio). I mute whomever is talking and just watch the game. Of course it takes a little more during live games. But its not hard. Been married over 20 years with tons of kids it seems. Selective hearing. Gotta love it.................
I like both of them but personally I would prefer Terry Stembridge. The original SA Spur announcer. I think it's just becasue he was the first and I really enjoyed listening to him. BTW back then if you got 5 games to see tthem on TV that was huge! No cable - no internet - you know - the Dark Ages.
It must have been years since you've heard a game on the radio, since you keep muting the sound.
Howard was style; Schoening is substance. I enjoyed listening to both for different reasons.
However, both pale in comparison to the great Terry Stembridge - the original SA Spur announcer. I agree with NFGIII, in that my bias is also based more on the nostalgia aspect. That said, Stembridge was factual, insightful, witty and humble. He will always be my favorite.
Who could ever forget his signature signoff slogan, "there WILL be another night".
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